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Old 06-19-2018, 04:03 PM
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Planned a trip to San Diego at the end of August for a week. We'll be staying at The Dana in Mission Bay, renting a slip from the hotel and dragging our Cobalt out there. I'd like to check out whatever there is to check out in Mission Bay, and as long as the weather cooperates I'd love to make a day trip out around Point Loma and down into San Diego Bay as well. I've always been a lake boater, so this would be my first inlet & open water experience. Looking for tips, places to visit, things to watch out for, etc. Anyone done a similar trip and have recommendations or experiences to share?

Also, this will be my boat's first salt water experience. I have a galvanized trailer. The hotel has hose hookups available, so I was going to bring a hose with me and rinse the trailer down after launch and again after retrieval. I have a set of muffs to run the engine on the hose too, was planning to run it on the hose for 10 minutes or so after we pull it at the end of the trip to flush out the salt water. Other than those two things, anything else I should be doing before or after the trip to prep and/or clean up?
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You'll feel right at home on Mission Bay. Familiarity with a few rules should make you feel more at ease.
https://www.sandiego.gov/lifeguards/safety/boatreg

Heading out through the Mission Bay Jetties, you'll encounter the worst of the turbulence at the mouth, where the wind and swells meet the tidal flow to make the waves stand up a bit and become confused. Don't wimp out. Slow down and work your throttle if need be. Once outside, make a point to check the wind and swell direction. Typically, you'll be running downhill while heading south to San Diego Bay, and if so, the return will have you heading into it. You'll want to allow extra time for the return trip so you can take it slowly and comfortably.

Once in San Diego Bay, a new world of cruise ships, container ships, aircraft carriers, submarines, huge yachts, and every manner of sailboats, kayaks, SUPs and skiffs await you. Don't wimp out.

Have fun!

As far as fresh water cleaning of your rig, I'd check with Dana to see if they're going to allow that. Never seen that attempted. No worries bud, your rig will survive. PM me for any specific questions. I've been trailer boating in San Diego since 1972.
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Thanks for all the info! Are there any dock and dine or other boating destinations we should try to check out while we are there?

Regarding the washing, the dock master at the Dana volunteered that I could use their hose bibs if I brought my own hose, I didn't even ask.
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As a visitor you will want to take the outside line around the kelp if you go from MB to SD harbor. Stay outside all the way until the 2nd entrance buoy to be safe. Don’t get tricked into taking the inside, it gets thick near the turn into SD.
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In Mission Bay, walk or boat over to Dana Landing and grab sandwiches at their deli for your bay cruise. Lunch/dinner try the Barefoot Bar. Their dock may not be made available, but I'd ask. They tie up their rentals there, but you could get lucky. If not, just drive over ... it's 5 minutes.

In San Diego Bay, The Ferry Landing in Coronado has a dock (can be pretty rough in there) with access to several restaurants, including Peohe's and Il Fornaio. Nice little Greek place over there too. The Marriott Marina (protected) has guest slips I believe. Check with them for details. Roy's is over there if you can swing it. Commercial Basin has docks with a bunch of restaurants adjacent. Do some research and you'll get it figured out.

Dock and dining was never my thing. There are tons of great restaurants around SD Bay (Fish Market/Top of the Market), but dockage is pretty scarce for the most part.
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Originally Posted by 230weekenderUSC View Post
... you will want to take the outside line around the kelp if you go from MB to SD harbor.
Very true.
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder550 View Post
Thanks for all the info! Are there any dock and dine or other boating destinations we should try to check out while we are there?.
https://www.portofsandiego.org/coming-and-going/boating-san-diego-bay/dock-and-dine
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Old 06-20-2018, 03:38 PM
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We did a similar trip a few years back, but stayed aboard our express cruiser for a week. Sounds like you have your head around the important stuff. Are you going to fish at all? There is a bait barge in mission bay, and lots of stuff around it. We were catching bonita right out of our slip there in Aug of the year we went. We also bought a 1/2 scoop of bait from the barge and tried fishing the la jolla kelp, but really just fed the sealions.

Also on the fishing front - the Blue Fin Tuna bite is just starting this week. One of the earliest years on record for 2 eastern pacific hurricanes too - which should push warmer water north. Late Aug/September could be nuts for sport fishing with BFT, Dorado, maybe even Wahoo and Sword/Sailfish in "local" waters. If your a fisherman - keep an eye on the fish counts at the landings and maybe head out on a sportboat one day while the fam does seaworld or something - this year could be epic.

One day we had perfect, glassy conditions, and were running at full throttle back up to MB from SDB. I look up and see a 35' Center Console charging us at full speed, and we are talking like 60-70mph bearing down on us from direct port. Freaked me out! it was boarder patrol - probably popped up on port radar and looked shady making that run at full throttle! lol

Also, overheating my new-to-me at the time Yukon 2500 with the 8.1l trying to pull the Jacumba grade. That sucked.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:27 AM
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As a visitor you will want to take the outside line around the kelp if you go from MB to SD harbor. Stay outside all the way until the 2nd entrance buoy to be safe. Don’t get tricked into taking the inside, it gets thick near the turn into SD.
I had read something about kelp beds and having to go further out to avoid them. Thanks for the tip about the 2nd buoy, hadn't heard that one yet.

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In Mission Bay, walk or boat over to Dana Landing and grab sandwiches at their deli for your bay cruise. Lunch/dinner try the Barefoot Bar. Their dock may not be made available, but I'd ask. They tie up their rentals there, but you could get lucky. If not, just drive over ... it's 5 minutes.

In San Diego Bay, The Ferry Landing in Coronado has a dock (can be pretty rough in there) with access to several restaurants, including Peohe's and Il Fornaio. Nice little Greek place over there too. The Marriott Marina (protected) has guest slips I believe. Check with them for details. Roy's is over there if you can swing it. Commercial Basin has docks with a bunch of restaurants adjacent. Do some research and you'll get it figured out.

Dock and dining was never my thing. There are tons of great restaurants around SD Bay (Fish Market/Top of the Market), but dockage is pretty scarce for the most part.
Good info, thanks!

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https://www.portofsandiego.org/coming-and-going/boating-san-diego-bay/dock-and-dine


Originally Posted by Az250cs View Post
We did a similar trip a few years back, but stayed aboard our express cruiser for a week. Sounds like you have your head around the important stuff. Are you going to fish at all? There is a bait barge in mission bay, and lots of stuff around it. We were catching bonita right out of our slip there in Aug of the year we went. We also bought a 1/2 scoop of bait from the barge and tried fishing the la jolla kelp, but really just fed the sealions.

Also on the fishing front - the Blue Fin Tuna bite is just starting this week. One of the earliest years on record for 2 eastern pacific hurricanes too - which should push warmer water north. Late Aug/September could be nuts for sport fishing with BFT, Dorado, maybe even Wahoo and Sword/Sailfish in "local" waters. If your a fisherman - keep an eye on the fish counts at the landings and maybe head out on a sportboat one day while the fam does seaworld or something - this year could be epic.

One day we had perfect, glassy conditions, and were running at full throttle back up to MB from SDB. I look up and see a 35' Center Console charging us at full speed, and we are talking like 60-70mph bearing down on us from direct port. Freaked me out! it was boarder patrol - probably popped up on port radar and looked shady making that run at full throttle! lol

Also, overheating my new-to-me at the time Yukon 2500 with the 8.1l trying to pull the Jacumba grade. That sucked.
I'm not into fishing, although my daughter would probably love the idea of feeding the sea lions. I'll keep the border patrol story in the back of my mind, I can do 55-60 full-out depending on conditions, sounds like that might draw attention too. Do they try to hail you on the VHF before trying to intercept? I have a handheld VHF that I will keep tuned to ch 16 while we're out.
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:13 PM
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Thanks for the tip about the 2nd buoy, hadn't heard that one yet.
I don't see how that's going to help you. There are a bunch of buoys, and they're numbered. You can only see the numbers if you're right up next to them. They are oriented in a North/South line to mark the shipping channel. Whether you need to follow it will depend upon the kelp situation in August. It dies back in summer due to warmer water, and then grows in winter with cooler water. Big swells tear it up too, so you just have to keep your eyes open.

If I were going to give you a safe target for the San Diego Bay entrance, I'd suggest Buoy 5 (32º 39' on the top and 117º 13.5' on the bottom ... more or less).

Here's are two pictures taken moments apart which show the real world view and a chart view. Note the vessel Lat/Lon position on the plotter.



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Got it Pez, thanks for the clarification. I'll have Navionics up and running when we go, should be able to put that in to help route me down there.
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Put your boat back on the trailer and head down 5 and launch at one of the launch ramps such as Pepper Park. Easier than the trip around PL and you dont have to worry about time or the swell. Once in the bay, head to Glorietta and anchor for a swim, cruise up and under the Coronado Bridge and follow the city line until you see the Nimitz, turn into the little channel and get an up close view. From there head across the bay towards Point Loma and on your left is the Naval Air Station, lots of Helos coming and going and fighters now and then. Follow the bay until it opens up to the pacific and then make your way back possibly stopping at a restaurant along the way.

Enjoy, the weather will be perfect, it’s San Diego
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If the conditions are good (and forecast to stay that way throughout the day) I'd love to say we went out around PL. Unlike most of the guys here, the only open ocean experiences I've had have all been from a cruise ship, so I'm looking forward to the experience. If conditions are at all questionable, we will trailer. Not going to put the family at risk, especially with me being an ocean novice.

I've seen SD bay from land and we rode the Patriot jet boat last summer, looking forward to a different perspective. Thanks for the recommendations
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Mission Bay-
The Barefoot Bar and Grill has dockage and is a neat spot as they have a locally stocked pond of fish.

Catch and release for spotted bay bass and small halibut is fun in Mission Bay and nighttime fishing for Mud Marlin (Bat Ray) is great fun. Otherwise Mission Bay is pretty much a dud

Sna Diego Bay-

Great C&R for similar species as Mission Bay, plus Bone fish in the back bay, which is something different.

I'll be starting school while you are here so won't have any time, but if you have any questions about anything shoot me a message for my number and send me a text.

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Originally Posted by theosea View Post
Put your boat back on the trailer and head down 5 and launch at one of the launch ramps such as Pepper Park. Easier than the trip around PL and you dont have to worry about time or the swell. Once in the bay, head to Glorietta and anchor for a swim, cruise up and under the Coronado Bridge and follow the city line until you see the Nimitz, turn into the little channel and get an up close view. From there head across the bay towards Point Loma and on your left is the Naval Air Station, lots of Helos coming and going and fighters now and then. Follow the bay until it opens up to the pacific and then make your way back possibly stopping at a restaurant along the way.

Enjoy, the weather will be perfect, it’s San Diego
I just read that you are not much into fishing so listen to this guy! There is so much cool stuff to see in San Diego Bay.

Cabrillo Monument is a cool way to also check it out should weather (not likely, it's San Diego) keep you off the water.

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... follow the city line until you see the Nimitz, turn into the little channel and get an up close view.
Perhaps you're referring to the Midway.

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Yeah, that one. My bad
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