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Old 07-30-2017, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MercuryMan200 View Post
Dude, STFU!
Uh, no. But you and the other brainless idiots carry on here, if you are not interested in reality.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:00 AM
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Great job op. If there is some stupid law against what you did effem you did the right thing.
What he said.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:34 AM
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Good job,but if it was a seal over here in the northeast I would rather see a granite block left tied to it..........
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Old 08-30-2017, 01:48 PM
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Moral imperative outweighs whatever the law says, so ignore the negative Nellies like ronp364. You did the right thing.
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Old 08-30-2017, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
It is "illegal". Can't say they'll prosecute someone for it, but it's a marine mammal and the MMPA law doesn't allow for human interaction by the lay person.

Call up FWS and ask them. In a somewhat similar situation (seal on a CA beach that looked to be in trouble), I once did, and got to spend 5 minutes being threatened with huge fines and jail time if I "harassed" the beast - which it was implied I was doing just by existing.

Then there's the guy in Canada who got killed yesterday by a whale he'd just freed.

While on one level I applaud the people who did this, on another, I would say it is extremely unwise to rescue an animal, and also unwise to even make a phone call to get someone official to go rescue it.
FTG - glad the dolphin gets a new lease on life. If it were me, and the Wildlife Officers started to threaten me, I'd ask them to hold on, and in front of them, call CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS, and ABC. Then I'd start recording them on my cell phone. And ask them to start from the beginning for the camera! How much you wanna bet the interview would be very short and they saddle up and leave promptly???
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:18 AM
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"but it's a marine mammal and the MMPA law doesn't allow for human interaction by the lay person."

That got to be some exception to the rule.

What happens if you hooked a dolphin by accident? Are not not allowed to free it? What about the commercial fisherman who own that long line? Are they allowed to cut the dolphin free?
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:03 AM
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There is a big difference between trying to pet a seal on the beach , and helping an injured or long line snared mammal . The spirit of the law is to keep people from trying to pet and harass them in their natural environment , not to prevent them from from being saved in situations like this .

Has anyone ever seen people trying to help a beached whale get ticketed or arrested ? Just do what's right , and you have nothing to worry about .
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
The more important question is whether the federal government saw it. I strongly recommend the OP request immediate removal of this thread.
Not sure why GOV would care about OP saving a dolphin from a commercial long line.
Good on the OP my brother in law did the same thing in Biscayne Bay in Miami has the whole thing on video of the dolphins tail stuck in a crap trap line. The dolphin thanked him by rolling over clapping its pec fins at him before swimming off , Amazing creatures.
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Old 11-09-2017, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hardtocontend View Post
Not sure why GOV would care about OP saving a dolphin from a commercial long line.
Good on the OP my brother in law did the same thing in Biscayne Bay in Miami has the whole thing on video of the dolphins tail stuck in a crap trap line. The dolphin thanked him by rolling over clapping its pec fins at him before swimming off , Amazing creatures.
This is all necroposting on a thread 2 months dead. It was explained. It won't be again. Think what you want.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crabcake Tony View Post
FTG - glad the dolphin gets a new lease on life. If it were me, and the Wildlife Officers started to threaten me, I'd ask them to hold on, and in front of them, call CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS, and ABC. Then I'd start recording them on my cell phone. And ask them to start from the beginning for the camera! How much you wanna bet the interview would be very short and they saddle up and leave promptly???
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Old 11-10-2017, 07:02 AM
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Yesterday morning a friend and I came upon a large dolphin wrapped up in a commercial long line. We were about 15 miles off the coast and no one around. The dolphin was exhausted it was probably tied up for a couple days, possibly more. My buddy jumped in and was able to cut the line and completely released him. A good day.
You guys did a good thing!

Ignore the "lawbook thumpers" that would probably just let it die.

I would probably do the same thing and try to free it.........If I didn't, there would be many sleepless nights wishing I would have.
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
This is all necroposting on a thread 2 months dead. It was explained. It won't be again. Think what you want.



there is always one to ruin a feel good thread, unreal some people, unreal......
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tbaxl View Post
That is the problem these days, far too many people afraid to get involved, any sportsman who is not willing to help an animal in distress is not a sportsman. Job well done by the OP.
Have you seen the night dive video of the dolphin whose pec fin was wrapped
in mono?

He or she came up to the diver and said hey! Lil help here please.
The dolphin ran out of breath and surfaced only to come back and say
Hey, you`re not done here yet.

After the mono was all cut away, the dolphin swam away....
only to return and wave its head up and down repeatedly as if in thanks.
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Old 11-11-2017, 05:47 PM
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Great Job !
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:55 AM
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What is a longline ? Is it still connected to the float now or floating around ? When I have snagged a crab pot with my prop , I really try to reconnect the line back to the float . If not the crab pot turns into a perpetual killing machine by rebaiting itself . I go out looking for abandoned pots and nets here in Hampton Roads and the Eastern Shore while fishing . I retrieve or at least cut some holes in it .
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:01 AM
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OP - good on ya. Only thing I would point out for people to think about that might do the same is the potential for somehting to go really wrong. If your buddy got wrapped up in the line and the dolphin freeked and deep dove or took off that would be bad bad bad. I am sure you assessed the situation, but just something to mention.


Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
and also unwise to even make a phone call to get someone official to go rescue it.

care to enlighten us as to why it is even so unwise to call authorities if you decided not to help out?
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wshtb View Post
"but it's a marine mammal and the MMPA law doesn't allow for human interaction by the lay person."

That got to be some exception to the rule.

What happens if you hooked a dolphin by accident? Are not not allowed to free it? What about the commercial fisherman who own that long line? Are they allowed to cut the dolphin free?
Technically you need a permit from the NMFS to assist marine mammals at least here on the left coast. IMO the law does make some sense when you look at how many yahoos there are out there. That said I think it unlikely one would have a legal issue with the NMFS assuming that their effort to help the animal out was reasonable.

It certainly looks like the OP did the right thing in this case Many sportsmen would have done the same thing.

There are a couple things potentially troubling about this

First is 15 miles out of SD you could be in MX waters. I would be a lot more worried about the authorities in MX misunderstanding what was going on if they rolled up on you when you were doing this. How do they know the longline doesn't belong to you? You could realistically end up going to jail and having your boat and gear impounded/confiscated while they sorted it out. Even possibly worse would be a Mexican commercial fisherman confront you cause your messing with their gear. Commercial fishermen everywhere frown on people messing with their gear. That still would not stop me from helping the animal out - just something to be aware of.

Assuming the rescue took place in U.S waters (and assuming it was actually a longline) the second and bigger question is what was that longline doing there? There are some experimental stuff that goes on but longlines are still banned in the continental EEZ. There is still a longline fishery in HI but not here in CA. Possibly drifted in from somewhere else but there should not be longlines here. Can't make out all the markings on the buoy but I would have called the NMFS with that info and ask them why it was out there.

Good on the OP for doing the right thing! That is a good size deposit in your good fishing karma account!!
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