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Old 10-04-2018, 10:44 AM
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pic of wife?
One dimensional little guy aren't you. I knew a guy like you once. We called him The Wedge. Simplest tool known to man.
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Old 10-04-2018, 12:59 PM
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Sounds like he needs some new friends!
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Old 10-04-2018, 01:42 PM
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If the battery is that far gone, replace it where it is sitting. Don’t risk smoking the alternator (expensive on VW’s typically). It will run off the alternator easily enough, but may overheat and blow the rectifier or stator in the process. Even on a short trip.
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Old 10-04-2018, 01:47 PM
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I have a vw repair shop in Charleston. If you need more help than a jump let me know. Mike
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Old 10-04-2018, 01:59 PM
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I mean, if 40 bucks is getting jacked over, then OP is wound a bit tight. OP should find out where tow truck owner lives, and then open an outdoor wedding facility/yoga studio/ goat farm next door...
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Old 10-04-2018, 02:57 PM
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tell him to find someone with a PU and rent a tow dolly or trailer to drag it somewhere he or someone else can work on it easily in a descent time frame

I always hated working on stuff out in places that were not convenient

can you even pull any vehicles anymore without getting the drive wheels off of the ground.
the old days where a lot easier
even my 64 Galexie 500XL with an automatic trans , you could pull start it because it had a pump on the output shaft

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Old 10-04-2018, 03:37 PM
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AAA installs batteries on the road. Won't be cheap but it will be done
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Old 10-05-2018, 04:16 AM
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I had AAA replace a battery while we where in FL for hurricane Flo. Cost was $188-- lifetime warranty. About 45 minutes from the time I called till it was changed.
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Old 10-05-2018, 05:17 AM
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Sounds like this battery gave lots of warnings and they were ignored. Been there and done that.

I will not jump start from vehicle to vehicle anymore. Too much techy electronics to fry.
I use a jump start battery. it works. And I can hand it to my neighbor without getting out in the rain or starting the truck. Made him happy too. I forgot the $40 charge and it is a little late to send him a bill.

From many posts here and other places, the newer engines require just the right electrical input or they will not work.
It is in the programing of the sacred computer, and all for your protection. Alternator, Starter, and whatever else.

As to $40, that was most reasonable. They lost money on that trip.


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Old 10-05-2018, 06:01 AM
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The battery jump services use the jump boxes almost exclusively due to the car needing a jump may not be accessible to easily jump using another vehicle.
i had a dead battery in an airport parking lot. Apparently my car alarm got activated and ran until the battery was dead. The way my car was parked, you would need 30' long jumper cables to do a vehicle/vehicle jump. The service that showed up had me going with a jump box in a minute. The service was free since airport parking contracted them, so I stuffed $10 in the guys pocket. He wouldn't take the tip in his hand.
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Old 10-05-2018, 06:05 AM
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Other benefit that has driven many companies to use jump boxes exclusively is that they are protected from reverse polarity.
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ChannelTwo View Post
If battery has dead cell(s) you will likely not get the car to run. Most newer cars can not run off the alternator alone. Too much draw from electronics that are now on board.

Tell your son to remove battery, either bum a ride from friend or uber, go to auto store and purchase new battery (turn core in for credit), get ride home, install new battery. If your 18 year old son cannot perform this task you failed as a parent. Sorry for being harsh but an 18 year old should be independent especially with a basic life task.
newer cars that dont make enough juice from alternator? How can it possibly charge a battery if it cant even keep up the the load?
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ole_blue View Post
newer cars that dont make enough juice from alternator? How can it possibly charge a battery if it cant even keep up the the load?
New car systems need a good alternator and good battery. Most of the time the alternator is at full output. This will maintain the battery and keep all electronic systems functioning.
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Old 10-05-2018, 11:18 AM
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120 miles away - take a day off & go have lunch with him & take care of it - good learning moment - My son is 1300 miles away - I wish I were so close

I don't think I saw it in earlier in the thread but sometimes the Pos/Neg cables have wire or corrosion issues that may be part of the problem both with jumping and charging from the alternator

Good luck
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Originally Posted by ole_blue View Post
newer cars that dont make enough juice from alternator? How can it possibly charge a battery if it cant even keep up the the load?
the alternator will run the car. But it very well may burn up in the process. A bad cell will make the regulation system read low voltage, which will result in a max output situation. It won’t last long like that.

In the alternator reman business BTW.
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Old 10-05-2018, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sunedog View Post
It wasn't my kid's fault either. He didn't leave anything turned on. He just happened to be the last to drive it before the battery gave up the ghost for good. The battery had a history of failing over the last few weeks.
Sorry but if you're driving around with a battery you know is failing it is your fault when you get stuck.
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Old 10-05-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Slough View Post
New car systems need a good alternator and good battery. Most of the time the alternator is at full output. This will maintain the battery and keep all electronic systems functioning.
they are not at full output that much of the time. If they were they would get smoked. Most modern cars/trucks are putting out 60 - 80 amps or so going down the road, and capable of 140+.

Not sure the esaxt model VW this is, but looked at the Jetta, Passat, and GTI. With the exception of the stripped down Jetta, all are 140 amp plus at max output.
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Old 10-05-2018, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sunedog View Post
I was only complaining because the guy came without jumper cables and I thought, based on my own experience, the car could have been started with good cables and a commercial vehicle. I now see from some of the posts above it is possible the battery is so faulty the car could not be started.


It wasn't my kid's fault either. He didn't leave anything turned on. He just happened to be the last to drive it before the battery gave up the ghost for good. The battery had a history of failing over the last few weeks.


I wouldn't have been pissed if that is what my son asked the driver to do and if the cost of the battery and labor to install it warranted a $400 charge. But none of that happened so you're point is moot.



He can wrench, but 4 Uber trips (get tools / return to get battery out / return tools and buy new battery / return to car with new battery) is going to be another $40 or more, depending on how far he has to go. I'm willing to buy the new battery, even though it's not our car, but I don't think it's my responsibility. My kid also doesn't have time to be messing with this while going to school full time and working 5 to 6 days a week at Charleston City Marina. But we will take care of it, one way or another.
4 Uber trips? Can be done with just 2 uber trips (maybe 1 car if they guy doesn't mind waiting for a few dollars) so long as the battery is the only problem. Get battery part number, uber to store. Rent or buy tools and the battery. Uber back to car, change battery. Drive car with used battery and tools back to the autoparts store.
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Old 10-05-2018, 02:06 PM
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Shouldn’t an 18 yo be able to figure out a simple life situation such as this on his own? Man we are in trouble.
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Old 10-05-2018, 02:29 PM
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Is the car standard or automatic, just curious
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