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Old 06-07-2017, 06:12 PM
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So let me start off by saying that my intent on this isnt to bash Seadek but I wanted to share my personal experiences with Seadek as I have seen many threads asking for information on this product

I purchased Seadek for my bolsters, Armstrong platform, and the entire deck about a year ago on my Bluewater 2350. I initially was extremely happy with the product and highly recommended the product as it has been comfortable and did looked great. However about 2 months after the installation I had two large pieces in the bow of the boat begin to "melt" around the edges causing it to deform. I called my local dealer who replaced the pads back in February under warranty by the factory. I noticed back in May that the same front pads are melting again as they previously did.

I emailed Seadek with pictures and received a response that it will not be covered under warranty because it was caused by "light amplification". They sent me a document (pics attached) regarding this which was created and dated July of last year..... which was after I purchased the Seadek.

It seems based off this document and my experiences that Seadek is very susceptible to damage from the glare off gelcoat which is going to be an issue on most boats. This is supposed to be a marine product and they are saying that the glare off the gelcoat will damage the Seadek. Last time I checked most boats have gelcoat and if maintained properly the gelcoat will create a glare or shine. I have done everything I can do to prevent this by keeping the boat covered when not in use but this is being caused while using the boat and not while storing the boat.

I do think Seadek has benefits and am very happy with the Armstrong platform and bolsters but extremely disappointed that I spent 2k on a deck that has already failed twice in areas within a year of purchasing it. I can only imagine what this will look like 3-5 years from now. The worst part is that the company rather than supporting their product pawns it off as somehow it is my fault with a supporting document that was developed after I purchased the product.


Anyhow - I wanted to share my experiences with the product for others looking at this as a possible decking solution for their boat

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Old 06-07-2017, 06:16 PM
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Any pics? What color is yours? I have Seadeck, 6mths into it with Awlgrip.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:20 PM
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The magnification from the Suns UV will burn Seadeck when it(Suns UV) is magnified by reflection in gelcoat. This mainly happens in corners or when the product is placed up against highly polished gelcoat, It's foam and nothing more, so it will burn like paper under a magnifying glass. Nothing new, been an issue since its inception, only thing I can say is whom ever sold, surveyed or measured your deck should have informed you of the issue and kept it a few inches away from these "hot spot" corners,mthanks would have eliminated your complaint. The product is great, whomever sold or installed is to blame if it bothers you.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:21 PM
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This is what Seadek sent me
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:25 PM
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Here's a pic of mine. It's gray over camo
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigNasty View Post
The magnification from the Suns UV will burn Seadeck when it(Suns UV) is magnified by reflection in gelcoat. This mainly happens in corners or when the product is placed up against highly polished gelcoat, It's foam and nothing more, so it will burn like paper under a magnifying glass. Nothing new, been an issue since its inception, only thing I can say is whom ever sold, surveyed or measured your deck should have informed you of the issue and kept it a few inches away from these "hot spot" corners,mthanks would have eliminated your complaint. The product is great, whomever sold or installed is to blame if it bothers you.
Again- I think it has many applications but had I known this could be an issue with a boat that is stores indoors I probably wouldn't have done my entire deck in it. I researched as much as I could and never heard of this burning issue.
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Well, they didn't hide the fact the sun will burn it. Problem is on your supplier if, and only if he didn't make you aware, and then only maybe... I have Seadeck on two boats I currently own and I have always been aware of care, installation and Maintence of the product. I'm a big fan and yes, I'm aware the sun will burn it, just like your skin if left unprotected.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:33 PM
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Yep I would be pissed as well!
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Originally Posted by bluewater52 View Post
Again- I think it has many applications but had I known this could be an issue with a boat that is stores indoors I probably wouldn't have done my entire deck in it. I researched as much as I could and never heard of this burning issue.
by chance did you buy yours from castaway?
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Thanks for this info! I was thinking about installing Seadeck, but my boat is not stored indoors and I was worried about sun damage, but couldnt find any info... and yes I did search. For such an expensive product and your boat being stored indoors it should be covered by warranty!
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Originally Posted by BigNasty View Post
The magnification from the Suns UV will burn Seadeck when it(Suns UV) is magnified by reflection in gelcoat. This mainly happens in corners or when the product is placed up against highly polished gelcoat, It's foam and nothing more, so it will burn like paper under a magnifying glass. Nothing new, been an issue since its inception, only thing I can say is whom ever sold, surveyed or measured your deck should have informed you of the issue and kept it a few inches away from these "hot spot" corners,mthanks would have eliminated your complaint. The product is great, whomever sold or installed is to blame if it bothers you.
Well, hell yes - we've got this awesome product, but just don't use it in the sun or near gel coat or anything else that can "amplify" UV rays, including water. If it were a "great" product, it would work with all of those things.

Under perfect conditions, standard steel fasteners will work as good as stainless. Care to sell that to salt water boaters?
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Originally Posted by BigNasty View Post
Well, they didn't hide the fact the sun will burn it. Problem is on your supplier if, and only if he didn't make you aware, and then only maybe... I have Seadeck on two boats I currently own and I have always been aware of care, installation and Maintence of the product. I'm a big fan and yes, I'm aware the sun will burn it, just like your skin if left unprotected.
I did not know of Light Amplification until today when they sent me the document. I never saw or heard of this on any thread I ever pulled on it. As far as maintenance I keep the boat stored covered when not in use and only use the materials to clean it that are recommended. I guess I should cover it at all times even when not in use? I'm glad yours has worked out and im sure it has with others as well but again this may be an issue for others so I wanted to share. Thanks
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Originally Posted by dropthatpuck View Post
Well, hell yes - we've got this awesome product, but just don't use it in the sun or near gel coat or anything else that can "amplify" UV rays, including water. If it were a "great" product, it would work with all of those things.

Under perfect conditions, standard steel fasteners will work as good as stainless. Care to sell that to salt water boaters?
Buddy I don't sell the shit, just a fan of it and yes, mine has burnt ends as well. That said I knew that when my installer surveyed my boats. On both the bigger offshore and the flats boat the installer surveyed and cut the Seadeck away from high polished corners for a reason, and it still curled burnt a bit, but not like the OPs. Hence my comment about his surveyor/installer. The imperfection doesn't bother me enough to be upset about, I enjoy it on the decks and that its soft and comfortable. This is a known problem for years and the person who sold it to the OP wasn't transparent. BTW, my flats boat is in direct florida sun 60% of the time and no issues, but it isn't exactly "highly polished" like my other boat is. I'm just saying...
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Originally Posted by bluewater52 View Post
I did not know of Light Amplification until today when they sent me the document. I never saw or heard of this on any thread I ever pulled on it. As far as maintenance I keep the boat stored covered when not in use and only use the materials to clean it that are recommended. I guess I should cover it at all times even when not in use? I'm glad yours has worked out and im sure it has with others as well but again this may be an issue for others so I wanted to share. Thanks
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by chance did you buy yours from castaway?
It was not.
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Originally Posted by 95lsteg View Post
Thanks for this info! I was thinking about installing Seadeck, but my boat is not stored indoors and I was worried about sun damage, but couldnt find any info... and yes I did search. For such an expensive product and your boat being stored indoors it should be covered by warranty!
I wouldn't hesitate to use the bolsters which are great or the helm pad but you definitely may have issues with areas that are exposed.
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Thank you for this, first time I've ever seen it anywhere as well, was planning on using it on a swim platform that is exposed to sun and gel coat reflections all summer long.
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This, to me is one of the biggest benefits of THT and thank you for sharing your experience. Hard to believe that they haven't figured out the "compound" that will be suitable for a boat's "seadeck". It's their namesake by golly! And to respond with a document that essentially allows them to not be responsible for their products failures is ridiculous. I'll not ever buy from them until I've heard they made you whole and fixed their quality problem. Again, thanks for sharing!
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Yep I would be pissed as well!
To some it may not bother them that the edges are melting but I just paid a lot of money refitting my entire boat to look good and am disappointed that this isn't holding up because besides that it does look great. I'm just concerned if it is doing this in such a short time period what will it look like a couple years from now.
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First I've heard of this problem, that doesn't mean anything though. They charge top dollar for the product, so that should come with a top dollar warranty and service. I've been looking for a product for my flats boat (not a new one, 2006) and I sure couldn't afford a FUBAR like that.

That response would piss me off for sure if I spent that kind of coin for that product - they should grin and bear it for as long as it would take to make you happy.

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