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Old 07-27-2014, 04:51 PM
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Smile Carolina Skiff Owners or Possible Customers!!!!!!!!!!

Check out my youtube video on Water In Hull. Have been round and round with warranty. No problem to them, so buyer or owner beware!!!!!!!!

Watch "Carolina Skiff Water In Hull" on YouTube
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Please feel free to comment or explain what you have done to fix problem or prevent it?
Old 07-27-2014, 06:22 PM
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Do your control cables run through the floor? I didn't realize Carolina Skiff had rigging tunnels..
Old 07-27-2014, 06:33 PM
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Yes the newer models have a tunnel. Neat feature but have read complaints that the tunnel is not sealed from the hull fully and some have actually noticed water entering hull from this. Of course they realized this from also installing tunnel drains.
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tell you something, I bought a brand new 16dlx a few years ago and I was changing transducers, one of the screws on the mount started dripping when I loosened it, that boat ran over 7 gals ouyt that one small screw hole, C/S (Sabrina), said impossible, but I had it on film, no denying it
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Yeah I keep telling the warranty guy(Brant), don't you care about the future of your company once enough people figure this out. I told him be proactive about this, replace my hull and cut the old one up and send peaces out to all your dealers as a counter models to show what happens when deck screws or consoles ect... aren't properly sealed. I don't think he liked my idea. He said install drains and tilt it up it should drain out. Then I asked about the closed cell foam cavities and how are they to drain? He said " there in a z pattern and can drain. Sure....Piss poor way to handle a huge company problem if you ask me. I mentioned a class action lawsuit and He said "That's your prerogative Mr Steve". Verbatim.
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I am a Carolina Skiff guy to the core. I bought a new 2013 238 DLV and it went to the factory 3 times for cracks in the hull. One time they gutted the boat and doubled the stringers and when they installed the leaning post and such back in it had zero sealant and when it rained the inner hull would fill with water. The repair was rough and cracked again so they gave me a new boat. The whole thing was a mess and I was banned for life from a skiff site I loved very much."My fault". I know Brent very well and consider him to be a good guy. I am leaving a ton of stuff out but you can email me at; pamlicosoundobx@aol.com and I will call you or email you. My name is Scott and I can tell you the whole story. I bought the new boat on 5-27-2013 and it was gone almost 4 months if you add the time up. The new boat I got last week is at the dealer for leaking live wells, faulty wiring, rigging and such. Some of the decals came off on the 245 mile drive home.
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I had a brand new Carolina Skiff 21 DLV. Problems like the ones being described here are a big part of why I no longer own it.
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Funny that you were told to drill holes in the transom to allow it to drain. When I experienced the exact same issues with my 258dlv I was told that drilling any drain holes would void their warranty. I did it anyway.

After being without the boat for nearly 6 months while I battled with them about warranty stuff, they finally repaired the hull. I ran it for a short while and sold it. Carolina Skiff will never get another penny of my money as long as I live.

They know full well the problems that their boats have and they know full well what causes the problems. And yet the still continue with the same design and construction, never changing anything that might mitigate customer complaints like ours. The hulls are meant to be disposable and are built as such. Sadly, they aren't priced as such.
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I had a J14. I also had a tight fitting cover for the boat. Never had a problem. Stands to reason if a hole gets drilled in the deck of a boat, it's going to leak water into any empty space. I don't think that is unique to Carolina Skiff.
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guy's I went thru the same things yaw did, at the time there was somebody I think by the name of Sabrina or something close to that representing C/S, what a mess, I was told that drilling holes in the transom voided the warranty, I sold my boat with less than 20 hours on it, one thing Carolina Skiff kept saying that the way they put there foam in compartments it was impossible to get waterlogged, the pictures they sent me showed it would clearly not drain, I tried to convince them that they needed a drain channel in between those floors, older boats from different manufactures used to have a way to drain that compartment. There was a lot of discussion on some skiff site where guys were using an electricians drill bit and drilling the length of the boat, even welding extensions on their bits to get nearer the front to drain their hulls. I hope I never get weak enough to own another one but if I did it would be a used one and I would cut the length of the floor and create me a drain channel in that boat.

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What kind of foam are they using that soaks up water so readily? I thought the stuff was supposed to be closed cell.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
What kind of foam are they using that soaks up water so readily? I thought the stuff was supposed to be closed cell.
It is closed cell until it gets damaged by whatever reason and it will act like a shop vac when it comes to water.
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I was under the impression closed cell foam couldn't soak up water regardless of damage. Each tiny microscopic cell in the foam is like a bubble, so nowhere for it to hold water, right?
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Originally Posted by WalkingTheDocks View Post
I was under the impression closed cell foam couldn't soak up water regardless of damage. Each tiny microscopic cell in the foam is like a bubble, so nowhere for it to hold water, right?
Mine literally poured water for hours when I first drilled the holes for the trim tabs. It then weeped water out for nearly a month while I did other projects. So there's plenty of space to hold water...somewhere in there...
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I'm really not sure what that video is supposed to prove?
I think everyone knows that you need to seal all fittings and deck screws our you will get water in your boat. This problem is not specific to CS.
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The video was to show people who didn't realize this. Everyone doesn't know to do this or what to do when this happens. I have done a lot of forum reading about how to deal with this happening.Truth is that theres no help when you get a new boat these days you have to learn from all the mistakes you make. If I can help some one from making the same mistake than I have accomplished why I made the video.
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Originally Posted by lazyboi1212 View Post
I'm really not sure what that video is supposed to prove?
I think everyone knows that you need to seal all fittings and deck screws our you will get water in your boat. This problem is not specific to CS.
The problem is a vast majority of brand new Carolina Skiff are delivered without any or minimal sealant in the holes in the deck. I cannot speak with any degree of certainty whether this is the fault of Carolina Skiff or their dealers.

I know my center console, flip-flop cooler base, rigging channel and T-Top was screwed to the deck without a drop of sealant around any of the screw holes and allowed water intrusion into the foam beneath the deck.

The bottom line is I had a brand new boat that I had to remove every screw from, seal the holes with 5200 and then reinstall all the screws.

I could also go on about how it was wired by a third grader.....
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Originally Posted by lazyboi1212 View Post
This problem is not specific to CS.
you are correct. It isn't specific to CS.
What is specific to CS, however, is the fact that they build their boats with absolutely zero designs to drain that accumulated water out of the hull. And what is also specific to CS is that they still send their boats out of the factory with zero sealant on any deck fitting or screw hole.

The boats start getting water in their hulls before the owner ever even touches their boat with a drill/screwdriver/caulk gun. And with no way to remove the water from the hull, you now have a waterlogged boat, which is something that no owner no matter what brand of boat, wants to see. And when you do try to evacuate the water that came from the manufacturer's lack of concern/quality control you are promptly told by CS that any attempt made by anyone besides the factory will void the warranty.

So yes, getting water in the hull is not specific to CS. Shoot, my old 13 Whaler had tons. It's the conscious decision by CS to continue building a problematic system along with their decision to stymie the consumer's attempts to rectify the inherent problems that is specific to CS.
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The best thing to do with those boats is what commercial skiff guys have done for decades: Have a side mounted console, and run the wires along the side of the skiff.

Running them along the floor with a cover, or in a tunnel is only asking for trouble down the line.
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Originally Posted by Tawn View Post
The problem is a vast majority of brand new Carolina Skiff are delivered without any or minimal sealant in the holes in the deck. I cannot speak with any degree of certainty whether this is the fault of Carolina Skiff or their dealers.

I know my center console and T-Top was screwed to the deck without a drop of sealant around any of the screw holes and allowed water intrusion into the foam beneath the deck.

I bought mine from Ed's Superstore in Ashland, VA - I don't know whether they installed the console or if it was delivered to them with the console already in place.

The bottom line is I had a brand new boat that I had to remove every screw from, seal the holes with 5200 and then reinstall all the screws.

I could also go on about how it was wired by a third grader.....
exactly my experience. Even after they repaired the hull at the factory, they reinstalled the decks and console with zero sealant. My dealer went through every single one, after the fact, and sealed them up. On CS's dime...

The boat was also delivered, the first time, with controls that were hard to shift. Come to find out, the shift cable had a near 90 degree bend in it that was stuffed into the rigging tube for nobody to see. QC? Where are you?

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