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Old 03-21-2019, 04:57 PM
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So I dont have my 2500 gmc or f250 anymore and dont need to tow very often. However I will be trailering home my new boat in a few weeks and am debating on trying out the wifes 2013 ford expedition. It has the max trailer package which is good for 9200 lb with weight distribution hitch and trailer brake controller. The boat will be a 31 fountain sport fish cruiser on a dual axle aluminum trailer in very good shape. The boat dry is 6300 (although ive also read 5700). Im figuring 1500 for trailer and about 1000 for the outboards. Which basically means im right at or just below the max trailer and tongue weights for the expedition. I would be alone in the suv and only trailering 10-15 miles one way. Anymore trailering would be once or twice a year and for literally 1/3 of a mile to the ramp at the end of the street. Considering tht members usually recommend a dually diesel for a 19 ft john boat I'm not sure what type of repsonses I will recieve lol. I guess I should add that I have lots of friends with big trucks and could always use one of there trucks if you guys think I'm nuts. Thanks for the helpful replies.
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:34 PM
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Will it do it? Yes. Do I think it's a good idea? No. I'm not a safety sally but that is a big boat with a trailer that will have a lot of tongue weight. Ten percent tongue weight will be 900lbs. That is going to have the rear suspension on the bump stops which will significantly effect your steering and braking ability. For your third of a mile tows, send it. For the longer tow, borrow or rent a heavy duty truck. No sense in abusing your vehicle while being unsafe.
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Old 03-21-2019, 06:47 PM
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Will it do it? Yes. Do I think it's a good idea? No. I'm not a safety sally but that is a big boat with a trailer that will have a lot of tongue weight. Ten percent tongue weight will be 900lbs. That is going to have the rear suspension on the bump stops which will significantly effect your steering and braking ability. For your third of a mile tows, send it. For the longer tow, borrow or rent a heavy duty truck. No sense in abusing your vehicle while being unsafe.
Thanks for your honest opinion. I dont wanna tear up a paid for and very nice vehicle either.
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I wouldn’t hesitate for occasional local tows. Won’t be fun on the road. Enterprise truck rental or a hauler would be money well spent for a single long haul.
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Old 03-21-2019, 07:02 PM
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For short hauls, good trailer brakes I would do it with a good Weight Distribution Hitch. Have one and makes a world of difference. Search my posts did a full write up on it.
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You'll wear that thing out real quick if you're hauling it often. I don't see twice a year to the ramp doing any harm. That's a lot of boat for a soccer mom "truck" to be doing anything serious..

And for the guys with their dually diesel pulling a jon boat, hats off to them. They're the ones getting laughed at and bitched at for having a big truck... But when the one laughing needs his 31 Fountain hauled a long way, he's the one crying and posting on here asking if he'll be safe hauling it through the smokey mountains with his Honda Ridgeline...... While the 1 ton diesel guy just sits there and thinks what an idiot that guy is.... You'd rather have what you don't need than need what you don't have.
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:58 AM
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And for the guys with their dually diesel pulling a jon boat, hats off to them. They're the ones getting laughed at and bitched at for having a big truck... But when the one laughing needs his 31 Fountain hauled a long way, he's the one crying and posting on here asking if he'll be safe hauling it through the smokey mountains with his Honda Ridgeline...... While the 1 ton diesel guy just sits there and thinks what an idiot that guy is.... You'd rather have what you don't need than need what you don't have.
You took that part of my comment waaaaay to serious. Thanks for responding and I agree that we really don't wanna tare the expedition up. Its been the perfect vehicle for our family.
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:47 AM
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Does it bother you that your wife wears the pants....err I mean drives the truck in the family?
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Since I kind of live in Fountain country near the plant, I see lots of 31's getting towed with 1/2 tons/suv's. Keep in mind this is 45-55 mph local roads not interstate stuff, but it doesn't seem to be hindering those owners too bad. I've actually heard a 31 owner say that one of the biggest advantages of that boat being light and narrow for size was that you didn't have to buy a diesel truck just for your boat. As always, this is not my first hand experience and ymmv.
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Does it bother you that your wife wears the pants....err I mean drives the truck in the family?
Lol. I didnt say I didnt have a truck. I said "hers" is bigger then mine.
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Old 03-22-2019, 04:16 PM
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Lol. I didnt say I didnt have a truck. I said "hers" is bigger then mine.
Dang... That's not good... LOL

Good luck! Nah I didn't take your comment serious, I hope you didn't take my serious either
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Old 03-22-2019, 04:33 PM
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For the short distance you're going to be pulling, go for it. Just don't do your towing during rush hours. Try to pick an off-peak time when few cars are out on the roads.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:25 PM
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Or you could beg, borrow, or steal a RAV4....
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:45 PM
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Why not just measure the tongue weight on the trailer first? Then, from there make a determination. Only you know how it'll ride, and how the truck will respond. Looks to be within the specs.
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:50 PM
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10-15 miles? do it. Not going to hurt anything... just drive like you are towing something... i.e. slower than usual and mindful of what is happening.
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:25 AM
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I had a 2009 Expedition EL and now have a 2017 Expedition EL. I would not do it.
Not sure how steep your local ramp is, but things tend to get exciting backing down a ramp without enough truck and brakes to hold trailer.
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sonickevin95 View Post
So I dont have my 2500 gmc or f250 anymore and dont need to tow very often. However I will be trailering home my new boat in a few weeks and am debating on trying out the wifes 2013 ford expedition. It has the max trailer package which is good for 9200 lb with weight distribution hitch and trailer brake controller. The boat will be a 31 fountain sport fish cruiser on a dual axle aluminum trailer in very good shape. The boat dry is 6300 (although ive also read 5700). Im figuring 1500 for trailer and about 1000 for the outboards. Which basically means im right at or just below the max trailer and tongue weights for the expedition. I would be alone in the suv and only trailering 10-15 miles one way. Anymore trailering would be once or twice a year and for literally 1/3 of a mile to the ramp at the end of the street. Considering tht members usually recommend a dually diesel for a 19 ft john boat I'm not sure what type of repsonses I will recieve lol. I guess I should add that I have lots of friends with big trucks and could always use one of there trucks if you guys think I'm nuts. Thanks for the helpful replies.

I think you are underestimating your weight. Fuel weighs ~6.5 pounds per gallon, and water is about 8.5. Surely you are not trailering with empty fuel tanks. Water could be in your water tanks, your bilge, and absorbed in any wood or foam on the boat. Plus you have gear on the boat which, unless it's made of helium, adds weight. I also think that 1500 pounds might be underestimating trailer weight.....
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