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Old 02-25-2019, 08:31 AM
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Default Itís Down to 2 - 2019 F250 or 2018 Ram 2500 Mega Cab

Both are really nice trucks. These also have the largest back seat for the kids. Iíve ruled out diesel, even though I love the sound, but I donít tow anything. Both are well equipped - Lariat vs. Laramie (sun roof, leather, heated and cooled seats, etc). Engines are 6.2 in Ford vs. 6.4 in Ram.
They price out really close to each other. Both sticker at $60k, and without negotiating yet Ford is at $55k, Ram is at $53k. It bothers me a bit that the Ram is a 2018 where the Ford is a 2019, for roughly the same money. Makes me think there is better value in the Ford.

Iíve had Ford, Chevy and Dodge in the past so Iím not hung up on brand loyalty. People do seem to favor the other companies over Ram though. Either way I go Iím going to put about 25k a year mileage wise, so when I look for my next truck in 4 to 5 years they will probably be worth about the same (not much).

Interested in any input, especially from anyone who owns either of these.

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Old 02-25-2019, 09:01 AM
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Buy the Ford. A year newer is worth the 2 k......
Old 02-25-2019, 09:10 AM
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I haven't priced out Ford but you should easily be able to get 10-12k off the sticker price of the ram
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Silly question - if you're not towing anything, why go with 2500 / 250?
Old 02-25-2019, 09:32 AM
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I have largely came to the same conclusion. I havent rule diesel out but will not pay the premium for it either. The depreciation of the gas motor truck is alarming however. Anyways keeping tack of this thread.
Old 02-25-2019, 10:38 AM
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Not a silly question really. I considered another half ton but I want a bigger bed, and the ability to plow. I think the beds on the half ton are kind of small, though I know you can order some larger than 5.5 feet. I own properties and the extra bed space and ability to plow a little really comes in handy.
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Mega Cabs in Massachusetts are hard to find. The one dealer that has a few is not coming off $10-$12k at this time. The most they are giving right now is $7k. I’ll keep looking, but I suspect if there were more around it might be a different story.
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Out of those two choices I would go ford. I like the 6.2 better than the dodge although the 6.4 is not a bad motor. Also with the new body style coming out for the dodge it will depreciate more over the next 4 or 5 years.
What is the reason for not going diesel?
Personally I am a big fan of gas trucks even for high miles and own heavy duty fords with the 6.2 for my business but for a personal truck purchased new and driving 25k miles a year the added resale on the diesel will more than pay for itself if you shop around. Most used pricing on them is factored off off new truck msrp which is why you see used trucks selling for only 5k less than what you can actually buy brand new one for.
Do a search on autotrader for what 100k mile diesel trucks vs gas trucks are going for. It is a bigger gap than the $8k extra you pay for the diesel.
You should be able to get 10-12 off of msrp without much of an issue
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My vote is neither, but since you are going to pick one go with the Ford. Never Ever buy a Dodge product.
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Have a 2017 f250 and had a ram 1500 5.7 hemi before that. Both are great trucks. The Ford really impressed me with the all aluminum body and I cannot say anything bad about this truck. Sure it rides rough but all heavy duties do. The 6.2 engine, the trans are all proven reliable and now I don't have to worry about body rusting out. If your going to keep it I would go Ford.
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
My vote is neither, but since you are going to pick one go with the Ford. Never Ever buy a Dodge product.
You must be a GM fan? I do like them and test drove a Duramax but ruled it out because they have less back seat leg room than the Ford or Ram Mega Cab.
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If I lived up north in a place where they used salt on the roads, that'd be the only case I'd say the aluminum body / bed is superior. Not a fan of the AL bed but it may be a big plus for salted roads.
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Originally Posted by jlipsky14 View Post
Out of those two choices I would go ford. I like the 6.2 better than the dodge although the 6.4 is not a bad motor. Also with the new body style coming out for the dodge it will depreciate more over the next 4 or 5 years.
What is the reason for not going diesel?
Personally I am a big fan of gas trucks even for high miles and own heavy duty fords with the 6.2 for my business but for a personal truck purchased new and driving 25k miles a year the added resale on the diesel will more than pay for itself if you shop around. Most used pricing on them is factored off off new truck msrp which is why you see used trucks selling for only 5k less than what you can actually buy brand new one for.
Do a search on autotrader for what 100k mile diesel trucks vs gas trucks are going for. It is a bigger gap than the $8k extra you pay for the diesel.
You should be able to get 10-12 off of msrp without much of an issue
I was really tempted to get a diesel, and drove a Duramax, Power Stroke and Cummins. I liked them all honestly, but for just daily driving like I do and maybe a little plowing I can get away with gas. I know the maintenance costs on the diesel are higher, but I wasnít too worried about that. I already pay $200 oil changes on my wifeís Land Rover. My kids are close to driving age and my wife was afraid they would fill it with gas instead of diesel if they ever drove it. I do agree with 100-125k miles the diesel will absolutely be worth more.
I havenít been able to find a lot of F250 diesels that werenít at the $80k mark. I donít see the need to spend that on a truck.
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Originally Posted by mercbravo1 View Post


You must be a GM fan? I do like them and test drove a Duramax but ruled it out because they have less back seat leg room than the Ford or Ram Mega Cab.

How soon are you planning to buy? The '20 model GM HDs are due out about July and they look to be VERY much improved over the old body with an extra 3" of rear seat leg room and ALL kinds of other improvements. Totally new truck and frame and on the gas models a new 6.6 liter motor. Of course the drawback to all that is it's a brand new truck and no one seems to be able to get everything perfect on a new vehicle. (Likely to be a few gremlins?)

If it'll be a little while, at least it would give you another comparison point. Personally, I stick with the GMs simply because I refuse to own a truck with a solid front axle suspension but that's pretty much a personal preference.
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
If I lived up north in a place where they used salt on the roads, that'd be the only case I'd say the aluminum body / bed is superior. Not a fan of the AL bed but it may be a big plus for salted roads.
This is a really good point. Iíve had a Ram 1500 in the past that had 185k on the clock, but the frame rusted through. I also had a 2005 F150 that lived itís whole life in Mass. I gave it to my brother in law and just dropped a new engine in it for him. The frame is in excellent shape as is the body save for a little rust starting in the can corners. Sadly it only had 139k on it before the cam phaser issue showed up, made worse by the fact that I think he went a year without an oil change (story for another time). Not an aluminum body, but help up in the salt better than the Ram.
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
How soon are you planning to buy? The '20 model GM HDs are due out about July and they look to be VERY much improved over the old body with an extra 3" of rear seat leg room and ALL kinds of other improvements. Totally new truck and frame and on the gas models a new 6.6 liter motor. Of course the drawback to all that is it's a brand new truck and no one seems to be able to get everything perfect on a new vehicle. (Likely to be a few gremlins?)

If it'll be a little while, at least it would give you another comparison point. Personally, I stick with the GMs simply because I refuse to own a truck with a solid front axle suspension but that's pretty much a personal preference.
I could buy as soon as today. Iíve been asking dealers when the new ones will be out and they keep saying October. Seems a long way off. I expected them sooner.
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Production is slated to start June 3rd so just guessing that they will be hitting the lots at least by July. I know GM press statements say they will be available "this summer". But all that is pointless if you're buying that soon. I am a bit hesitant to buy first year models when they change a bunch of stuff and they changed A BUNCH of STUFF on the '20 models. Completely new truck from the wheels up. The interior is about the only thing that even looks the same but the entire truck is bigger. Heck, the crew cab, short bed model is 10" longer than last year's model. I was planning to buy a '20 but after seeing just how much they changed, I'm thinking I may hold off for a '21.
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I would NEVER buy a first year model GM again!
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Does the ram have the air ride?
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Originally Posted by kawakx125 View Post
I would NEVER buy a first year model GM again!

They ALL do it. Toyota even - but Toyota stands behind their stuff better than most.

Seems like they could all do with better and longer testing to find most of the problems. Guess the bean-counters are the major problem but I'm guessing many problems don't show up on the test mules but do once production starts? Don't know enough about the process but I watched the introduction of the new Duramax motor in '17 and they had a couple of production line problems like rubbing transmission coolant lines and I think I remember some reports of oil pans leaking but almost everything else was fixed via programming changes to the ECM / TCM and such. They also had a sensor in the tail pipe that was making the transmission shift funny at around 40 mph and some injectors on 1st year models that were replaced, but overall, it seems they got it right from the start. Small miracle.

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