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Old 02-17-2019, 05:40 PM
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Looking for some advice here. Upgrading the truck and I seem to be right at the limit of a ton and lower end of a ton.

I tow a 24 ft boat about 1,500 miles out of 18,000 miles driven a year. One-way haul is about 90 miles in flat eastern North Carolina. Total weight of trailer is around 8,000 lbs, tongue weight around 940 lb. I estimate that Im right at the 2,000 lb cargo limit and 7,000 lb GVWR for the ton truck.

I currently have a half-ton setup that has done ok towing the boat, but Im concerned about the longevity of the ton truck running at the very top of the capacity limit even for the limited miles. I know the would handle the trailer no problem and feel much safer going down the road.

If I went ton I would go with gas option due to short (11 mile) daily commute and towing requirements.

Let me know your guys opinion. Which route would you take?

Old 02-17-2019, 05:56 PM
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I towed a 9K boat/trailer from Raleigh to Wilmington for years. I had several different trucks durning this time (13 F150 EB, 12 Duramax, 15 Silverado 1500 and 16 F150 EB)

while the EB engine is a beast for what it is the suspension on the F150 towing somethat that heavy is the weak spot. The Silverado 1500 had the better suspension setup but the engine was the weak point compared to the EB and of course the duramax was the best at everything.

I will say say in the Duramax it was a no stress event. Engine power never stressed me out it was ALWAYS the suspension and how much the trailer was pushing the truck around.

In your case with the short commute I would go 2500 all the way. The suspension on a 1500 is just not all that great when you get above 7K reguardless of the towing capacity.









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2500 gasser. If you get the Ford, get airbags.
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I would do a GM gasser in that application. IFS front suspension is a must have for me. Only other one I would consider is a max trailer/max payload F150 with the 3.5eb, and airbags if necessary.

Titan XD also fits the bill, however I am very gunshy of anything Nissan other than the frontier.
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So for 16,500 miles its driven empty and 1500 miles its towing 8k? No brainer. Half ton. I have 2 half tons and a 3/4. My 3/4 rides like shit. I couldn't imagine driving one just around town. My 2017 Ram 1500 with 3.92 is rated to pull 10,800 lbs and have done close to 10k with no issues on flat roads. That truck is much nicer to just drive empty. Rides better, parks better. My 3/4 dmax literally sits in storage except when I need to pull something really big. Of course it will pull an 8k load like it's not there, just no way I would want it for my only driver.
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I'm so used to driving a 3/4 ton, I wouldn't know how bad it rides compared to a 1/2 ton anymore.

I think a half ton would definitely do the job and get better mpg when not towing and possibly while towing but, a 3/4 ton will definitely make you feel all warm & fuzzy while towing. Toss a coin?
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Originally Posted by TyTime View Post
Looking for some advice here. Upgrading the truck and I seem to be right at the limit of a ton and lower end of a ton.

I tow a 24 ft boat about 1,500 miles out of 18,000 miles driven a year. One-way haul is about 90 miles in flat eastern North Carolina. Total weight of trailer is around 8,000 lbs, tongue weight around 940 lb. I estimate that I’m right at the 2,000 lb cargo limit and 7,000 lb GVWR for the ton truck.

I currently have a half-ton setup that has done ok towing the boat, but I’m concerned about the longevity of the ton truck running at the very top of the capacity limit even for the limited miles. I know the would handle the trailer no problem and feel much safer going down the road.

If I went ton I would go with gas option due to short (11 mile) daily commute and towing requirements.

Let me know your guys opinion. Which route would you take?
If you’re looking at Ford F-150s in Lariat Dress or above and are OK with SRW F-350 Gasser, the price difference between the F-150 and the F-350 Lariat is almost negligible or at least it was in the Northeast last October. Could have saved a lot of $$ with an XLT F-150 and it probably would have met my towing needs but I was looking for a Lariat and the deals on F-150 Lariats didn’t really exist in my area.

I ended up with a Crew Cab Lariat SRW F-350, Gasser long bed, less the 4000 miles but so far I am in love......

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I'd lean more towards a 1/2 ton max tow and/or max payload because 90% of the time you'll want the more plush ride of the 1/2 ton.

I had a 3/4 ton for towing my RV and it was absolutely amazing. But when not towing (which has become most of the time now), the harsher ride and low MPGs just started getting to me. And I was pretty sure I was keeping that 3/4 for a long time when I got it.
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Originally Posted by Salmonbum View Post
So for 16,500 miles its driven empty and 1500 miles its towing 8k? No brainer. Half ton. I have 2 half tons and a 3/4. My 3/4 rides like shit. I couldn't imagine driving one just around town. My 2017 Ram 1500 with 3.92 is rated to pull 10,800 lbs and have done close to 10k with no issues on flat roads. That truck is much nicer to just drive empty. Rides better, parks better. My 3/4 dmax literally sits in storage except when I need to pull something really big. Of course it will pull an 8k load like it's not there, just no way I would want it for my only driver.
What year is your Dmax? Most modern 3/4 tons ride really well. If I was in your situation, I would go with the 250/2500. It's a way more comfortable towing experience and you'll have plenty of extra payload capacity for gear.
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If your truck is nearing the end of the line, ya sure, consider 3/4, but IMO you dont tow enough to worry about excessive wear/tear on your current truck.

fyi...my 3/4 ton burb rides like Im in my living room just like my 1/2 ton did.
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With all due respect to the Tundra guys, I would shy away from towing an 8,000 boat with a Tundra. I did that for two years and never quite felt like the truck had a big enough foot print (braking power) when towing at speed . Of course I was doing mountain passes but still, I always worried what the outcome would be in a panic situation

So I sold the Tundra and bellied up to the bar for a Nissan Titan XD-call it a 5/8 ton. I got the gasser when it first came out in 2016 and never looked back. Burly brakes, burly frame and first time I did my 250 mile trip up to Canada through a mountain pass, I was forced to do a panic move (sweeper truck parked in my lane; brake pedal to the metal at 60 mph) and lived to tell the tale. Its a kush ride, way slicker interior then the Tundra. I put air bags in it and never looked back. Use it to carry my camper when I ski in the mountains, use it to tow my boat in the summer.

Yes, I can see the wisdom of a 2500HD but seems like overkill. I suggest the Titan XD because it sits nice and comfortably between an F150 and a 2500 and their well made and offer a stable ride with beefy brakes for towing
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Why everyone saying go gas in this thread? Im about days away from pulling the trigger on a 2500 Cummins ram to tow my 25 reg.
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Another vote for the GM 1/2 ton with the Max Tow.
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Originally Posted by 25WildBlue View Post
Why everyone saying go gas in this thread? Im about days away from pulling the trigger on a 2500 Cummins ram to tow my 25 reg.
Please post pics. I'm a big fan.
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X2 on the Nissan Titan XD. It’s a 5/8-ton (bigger than 1/2 ton, smaller than 3/4 ton) that is a great riding truck. Just traded mine in - but only because I needed a 1-ton dually - otherwise I’d still be driving it.

Mine was the diesel with the 5.0L Cummins.
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3/4 ton for sure. I dont know of a 1/2 ton that when you have to brake hard the boat you are towing doesnt push you further forward than you would want. Stupid red light ticket! My 3/4 ton diesel tows like the boat isnt even there. Stops on demand.
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Get a pickup for what you do the most of that is still rated for your towing needs.
A max tow F150 Ecoboost 3.5 will fill the bill nicely and save a lot of fuel vs. a 3/4 ton.
As far as stopping? You do have trailer brakes, don't you?
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Originally Posted by 25WildBlue View Post
Why everyone saying go gas in this thread? Im about days away from pulling the trigger on a 2500 Cummins ram to tow my 25 reg.
because all the emissions crap bolted on the motor. I am a die hard diesel guy, having 2 now but would never buy a new emissions clogged one. They break and mileage sux. And it seems in the last 10 yrs or so ppl been buying diesels to look cool driving to walmart. Only reason to buy a new diesel is if you are hooked up over 50% of its driving time. Other than that is just compensation for something. My next truck is a power wagon with 6.4 gas.
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Originally Posted by TyTime View Post
Looking for some advice here. Upgrading the truck and I seem to be right at the limit of a ton and lower end of a ton.
I was not aware any truck had a ower limit.
Get the 3/4 ton, no one complains they have too much capability.
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Originally Posted by TyTime View Post
Looking for some advice here. Upgrading the truck and I seem to be right at the limit of a ton and lower end of a ton.

I tow a 24 ft boat about 1,500 miles out of 18,000 miles driven a year. One-way haul is about 90 miles in flat eastern North Carolina. Total weight of trailer is around 8,000 lbs, tongue weight around 940 lb. I estimate that Im right at the 2,000 lb cargo limit and 7,000 lb GVWR for the ton truck.

I currently have a half-ton setup that has done ok towing the boat, but Im concerned about the longevity of the ton truck running at the very top of the capacity limit even for the limited miles. I know the would handle the trailer no problem and feel much safer going down the road.

If I went ton I would go with gas option due to short (11 mile) daily commute and towing requirements.

Let me know your guys opinion. Which route would you take?
You are definitely at 3/4 ton range, maybe 1 ton. Most 3/4 ton trucks have a payload around 1500 pounds. You can find some with a bit more if you don't option up to much. Even if you find one with sufficient payload you will exceed the rear axle capabilities without a WDH.. The Dodge and Ford require a WDH when you go past 500 pounds tongue weight OR 5000 pounds total trailer weight. You are exceeding both. The chevy will get you to 700 / 7000 without a WDH. You are way over all of these. Most people don't want to run a WDH with a boat trailer even if they can. You need all kind of BS to make it work pole tongue adapter etc. Its also a major PIA unhooking etc at the boat ramp. The super duties will let you go to full rated tow without a WDH which is what you need with a boat. Curious how do you know you are at the GVWR for your existing truck have you weighed with the boat attached ?


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