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Old 01-16-2019, 07:01 PM
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Default 3/4 ton vs 1 ton SRW - ride quality?

I hear some suggestions from people to consider buying 1 ton SRW trucks over 3/4 ton trucks because of the increased payload availability in different towing applications. At the same time, people complain about the ride quality being worse on a 1 ton over a 3/4 ton because of the extra helper spring. I've heard suggestions about reducing the tire pressure and even adding weight to the bed to make the 1 ton ride better.

I've seen aftermarket auxiliary tanks offered by RDS and others. Would an auxiliary fuel tank with let's say, 60 gallons, be enough weight in the bed for the ride to improve? Diesel weighs approximately 7 pounds per gallon. 7 pounds x 60 gallons = 420 pounds. Would 420 pounds in the bed be enough weight in a 1 ton to improve the ride quality noticeably? I realize most auxiliary tanks are up against the front of the bed (closer to the cab) so the weight isn't directly over the rear axle and the suspension.

Generally speaking, you can price out equally spec'd 3/4 tons and 1 ton SRW trucks. Given that, what methods are good to weigh down the bed in a 1 ton to make it ride more like a 3/4 ton? Is the ride quality that substantially different?

My thoughts are merely hypothetical and geared towards the people in the market that are looked for HD trucks. A 1 ton might be a better option if someone can buy it for the same price and have a similar ride quality to a 3/4 ton with slight modifications.

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Old 01-16-2019, 07:07 PM
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Look at insurance and tax rates before you look at anything else. Often a big jump in tax rates between the two. Business use 3500's (typically just dual rear wheel) can get into class A CDL requirements as well if hooked to a trailer rated over 10,000 lbs.

Can't speak to the other brands, but I do ride in a 2500 and 3500 Ram on a regular basis. Both SRW. Can't tell a bit of difference in ride quality. Trucks are basically identical otherwise. Even have identical toolboxes, tires, and in bed fuel tanks in them.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:40 PM
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Rams use different springs for the 2500 vs 3500, so many claim a better ride in the 2500.

GMs use same springs, so virtually no difference in 2500 vs 3500.
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I Can't tell the difference between a F250 and F350 Ford. They are essentially the same truck, the only reason the 250's exist is states that charge a fortune for registering trucks over 10k lbs. If your state doesn't I'd go 350, sometimes they are cheaper because people are still afraid of "1 ton"s but in reality they are the same truck. (speaking about late models, back in the day there were some differences).
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:13 AM
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They'll ride the same in some cab configurations, others can be as different as night and day. The extra wheelbase of a 350/3500 can really "soften" the ride.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RJTaylor View Post
They'll ride the same in some cab configurations, others can be as different as night and day. The extra wheelbase of a 350/3500 can really "soften" the ride.
extra wheelbase? you can get an SRW 3500 ram in a 6.4'' box, same as a 3/4 ton
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Usually only diff is overload springs-which don't contact unless loaded heavy.

No one buys any HD truck for the "ride"...
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Usually only diff is overload springs-which don't contact unless loaded heavy.

No one buys any HD truck for the "ride"...
Not true at all. They buy an HD truck out of necessity, but often pick out the particular model/features strictly based on ride. Not everyone who needs an HD truck wants to be beat to death day in and day out, or can have multiple vehicles for their different needs.
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Originally Posted by kawakx125 View Post
extra wheelbase? you can get an SRW 3500 ram in a 6.4'' box, same as a 3/4 ton

I've never seen an 8 foot box on a 250/2500 crew cab, shows how much I pay attention to spec sheets.
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Originally Posted by RJTaylor View Post
I've never seen an 8 foot box on a 250/2500 crew cab, shows how much I pay attention to spec sheets.
dont see many 8' boxes anymore period
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Usually only diff is overload springs-which don't contact unless loaded heavy.

No one buys any HD truck for the "ride"...

I understand that argument and partially agree. But surely, if someone is going to look at a 3/4 ton or 1 ton SRW for their daily driver they should be at least a little bit concerned about ride quality. Especially since they are often priced the same and if there are great methods out there to weigh down the bed of a 1 ton (like an auxiliary fuel tank) so that it rides more similarly to a 3/4 ton then getting the bigger 1 ton is worth getting because of it's capability.
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Originally Posted by RJTaylor View Post
I've never seen an 8 foot box on a 250/2500 crew cab, shows how much I pay attention to spec sheets.
Originally Posted by kawakx125 View Post
dont see many 8' boxes anymore period
I don't think I'd get anything but an 8' bed....but then again, I have the option of a commuter car in our driveway when I need it.
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I went through this in 2016. I only needed a 2500 as my boat totally loaded on the trailer is about 10,000 lbs. I had friends say the old "you should just get a 1 ton" i drove both the ram 2500 and the 3500. Both were fine, but i really thought that the 2500 rode better since it had coils instead of springs. I felt that the 3500 jarred a little harder on bumps, but that makes sense since it has more resistance and leaf springs in the bed. My 2500 pulls my boat great but i was worried i may have to add airbags or something since my boat does have substantial tongue weight. I ended up doing nothing, even with my leveling kit on the front the truck does not squat enough to bother me. Since i do a lot around town, and i use the truck to transport the family all the time, i think the 2500 was a better fit for me. I would be comfortable with my truck up to probably 15 or 16k pounds.


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Go to a dealer and drive them both. I just bought a Ford 250. I test drove a 350 and a 250 and there was definitely a ride difference between the two.
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There are very few valid arguments for an 8 foot bed, and the trucks are long enough with the 6.9 bed.
Anything much bigger than 10-12 feet I'm using my flatbed trailer for anyway.
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Have owned multiple HD trucks including a f450 it’s always a smoother ride when loaded with equipment or significant tongue weight

Currently happily riding in a 150 (but miss turbo sing on cooler mornings)

*couple years ago did a long haul for the holidays to the great white north and tossed 4 80# bags of concrete in the back to soften the ride, made a noticeable improvement (2016 gmc 2500hd)
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RJTaylor View Post
I've never seen an 8 foot box on a 250/2500 crew cab, shows how much I pay attention to spec sheets.
I had a 2016 Ram 2500 Cummins crew cab with 8' bed. Equipped with coil spring rear suspension. Ride was probably a little better than the 2004 Powerstroke Ford Supercab shortbed it replaced. It was a bear to park.

No longer have a need, and in a 2.7L F150.
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Usually only diff is overload springs-which don't contact unless loaded heavy.

No one buys any HD truck for the "ride"...
‘Just bought a Ram 2500 out of necessity. Got the air suspension for the “ride.”
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From a physics standpoint wouldn't the extra weight compress the springs and make the ride harsher?
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
From a physics standpoint wouldn't the extra weight compress the springs and make the ride harsher?
no, it's like they have a steep barrier to "first compression" where there's no suspension at all...once the springs get engaged it smooths out....learned this early on with my F350...empty truck backing out of driveway with coffee....no good.
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