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Old 01-17-2019, 03:52 PM
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Just remove the extra helper (or two) and get a big set of air bags. Soft ride and improved towing capacity.
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:44 PM
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I have an F350 SRW 4X4 single cab with a Powerstroke. I have a 90 gallon aluminum fuel cell in the bed, and when it's full of fuel it is still a stiff ride. If you don't think you need a one ton, don't get one. They are harder to sell when you want to sell it, they are harder on tires and suspension components, and the women in your life will refuse to ride in it. I have two.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 32blackfin View Post
I have an F350 SRW 4X4 single cab with a Powerstroke. I have a 90 gallon aluminum fuel cell in the bed, and when it's full of fuel it is still a stiff ride. If you don't think you need a one ton, don't get one. They are harder to sell when you want to sell it, they are harder on tires and suspension components, and the women in your life will refuse to ride in it. I have two.
Two F350s or two women? Either way, you're a lucky SOB.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboJoe View Post
There are very few valid arguments for an 8 foot bed, and the trucks are long enough with the 6.9 bed.
Anything much bigger than 10-12 feet I'm using my flatbed trailer for anyway.
have you heard of gooseneck and fifth wheel trailers?
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:34 PM
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I haven't looked closely at a new Ford so this may have changed. But I doubt it. The only difference between an F250 and an F350 is a single overload spring and a different badge on the front fender. The overload doesn't come down on the supports until you put enough weight in the box to push it there. So the translation is that anyone who tells you an empty F250 rides differently than an F350 is blowing smoke. I don't drive Chevs or Sheeptrucks so you're on your own there.
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboJoe View Post
There are very few valid arguments for an 8 foot bed, and the trucks are long enough with the 6.9 bed.
Anything much bigger than 10-12 feet I'm using my flatbed trailer for anyway.
1) can fit 8' lumber in with the tailgate shut
2) 5th wheel/gooseneck without risk of smacking cab
3) more volume
4) can install a toolbox and still have good bed space
5) lots of times the 8' bed is the difference between needing a trailer and not.
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kawakx125 View Post
1) can fit 8' lumber in with the tailgate shut
2) 5th wheel/gooseneck without risk of smacking cab
3) more volume
4) can install a toolbox and still have good bed space
5) lots of times the 8' bed is the difference between needing a trailer and not.
Amen. It's a truck. More bed space = better. Ease of parking is a distant secondary concern compared to usability. I won't even start on how horribly useless most of the 1/2 ton midget beds are. Sure you can tow a trailer if you run out of bed space. That is exponentially more of a pain in the ass to park than is a long bed truck.
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 32blackfin View Post
I have an F350 SRW 4X4 single cab with a Powerstroke. I have a 90 gallon aluminum fuel cell in the bed, and when it's full of fuel it is still a stiff ride. If you don't think you need a one ton, don't get one. They are harder to sell when you want to sell it, they are harder on tires and suspension components, and the women in your life will refuse to ride in it. I have two.
My wife would rather travel in our comfy 2016 High Country DRW 3500...it's very nice and kids love to watch their own movies in the back or use their ipads connected to the hotspot! So if you are traveling and I happen to pass you, your phone wi-fi might ask you if you want to join "infidel"..lol
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:40 PM
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I have a 2015 F250 and F 350. Both ar crew cab 4 x 4 long beds. I can't tell one bit of difference in the ride and wouldn't care if it did. Both got a level kit and 35" Toyo tires the day they were bought.

My brother has a F 250 gasser super cab. We both agree the ride is stiffer on his truck than my 350 diesel. Maybe the weight of the motor?
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Old 01-18-2019, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kawakx125 View Post
1) can fit 8' lumber in with the tailgate shut
2) 5th wheel/gooseneck without risk of smacking cab
3) more volume
4) can install a toolbox and still have good bed space
5) lots of times the 8' bed is the difference between needing a trailer and not.
I should clarify, if its a standard cab then go 8' bed the whole way. I'm really talking about crew cab, since that is what 75% of truck sales are currently.

1. So what? I can easily fit 8 foot lumber with a ratchet strap, which I always have plenty in the truck anyway.
2. Yes, and if a dually for sure 8 foot bed is the only way I'd ever spec it (even though 6.9 isn't an option at all). When SRW, I'd go slider hitch. Fifth wheel campers have this problem, but goose neck trailers do not.
Sliding hitches are awesome now adays, but add expense and weight. I'll put this as an advantage to 8 foot bed.
3. Meh, plenty in a 6'9 bed with Tonneu cover.
4. Yes, I used to have tool boxes in my older truck with 8 foot bed. Realized 90% of it was crap and happily live without it. Now my usage has changed a bunch also. If it's a work truck even a toolbox is not that useful, need a utility body. Right tool for the job.
5. I'm not being argumentative... but truly am curious what can fit in an 8 foot bed but not a 6'9 bed?

1/2 ton midget beds are a whole different topic, and truly useless. Need 8foot with the tailgate down.
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A lot of stuff can fit in an 8í bed with the tailgate closed (thereby avoiding excessive strapping). Also, total volume. Sure you can haul 3-4 sheets of plywood with the tailgate up. You canít haul a stack. Add a toolbox to an 8í bed truck you can still haul a full stack of sheet goods. You cant do the same with a 6.5í bed.
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Old 01-18-2019, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboJoe View Post
I should clarify, if its a standard cab then go 8' bed the whole way. I'm really talking about crew cab, since that is what 75% of truck sales are currently.

1. So what? I can easily fit 8 foot lumber with a ratchet strap, which I always have plenty in the truck anyway.
2. Yes, and if a dually for sure 8 foot bed is the only way I'd ever spec it (even though 6.9 isn't an option at all). When SRW, I'd go slider hitch. Fifth wheel campers have this problem, but goose neck trailers do not.
Sliding hitches are awesome now adays, but add expense and weight. I'll put this as an advantage to 8 foot bed.
3. Meh, plenty in a 6'9 bed with Tonneu cover.
4. Yes, I used to have tool boxes in my older truck with 8 foot bed. Realized 90% of it was crap and happily live without it. Now my usage has changed a bunch also. If it's a work truck even a toolbox is not that useful, need a utility body. Right tool for the job.
5. I'm not being argumentative... but truly am curious what can fit in an 8 foot bed but not a 6'9 bed?



1/2 ton midget beds are a whole different topic, and truly useless. Need 8foot with the tailgate down.
UGH....1'3" more stuff. Seems simple enough....
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Old 01-18-2019, 04:53 PM
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I've been driving Superduties for 44 years. Who gives a shit what they ride like? It's a freaking truck. Unless you hit a pot hole or off road they are smoth as glass. And I have never owned one without a 8 ft bed. You young guys may not remember back in the day before crew cabs 8 ft bed was the only thing available in a Superduty. Short beds were 1/2 ton only and rare.

Unless you live in NY city don't give me that sissy reply it is to had to park. Besides a real truck should not have a cab bigger than the bed. It's just it's wrong. Also been in a crew cab 4 ◊ 4* diesel since 1996. There were no other crew cabs at the time.

People checked out that truck every where I went like it was* Ferrari. Not anymore of course. Standard cabs are the odd ball these days.

I also have a cross box that wipes out a couple ft of bed. Although it has room underneath for lumber etc.
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Old 01-19-2019, 08:10 AM
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Are people really arguing about 8’ beds?

If if you don’t like them, that’s just fine... but I use my truck. Its my daily driver, but it’s also my weekend workhorse.

I heat with wood and have to buy it split. Can fit 1/2 to 2/3 a cord neatly stacked, 40% more than my last truck... hay for the animals- 5 bikes, coolers, gear and firewood for camping trips, and right now my boys dirt bike and soon my quad will easily fit in there with room to spare.

I will never own another short bed, unless it’s for a play truck - like the bulk of new 1500’s are.
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I have been driving a one ton Ford for 17 years. It helps to have less tire pressure and good shocks. I like an 8 foot bed and will never understand people that think short beds are better.
The longer wheelbase helps the ride a lot. The ride I don't like are choppy short wheel base Jeeps.
The 7.3 liter diesel is hard to beat.
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Originally Posted by TurboJoe View Post
There are very few valid arguments for an 8 foot bed, and the trucks are long enough with the 6.9 bed.
Anything much bigger than 10-12 feet I'm using my flatbed trailer for anyway.
I have always needed a long bed truck for work. I don't any longer and would never buy a short bed truck. I have a cap on my truck that has rod holders on the inside that will hold my 7' fishing poles. I can't secure my gear in my boat when I tow so this serves me well. Besides that my wife would run out of room for everything she thinks she needs to drag with us when we go away for a week
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Originally Posted by Jughed View Post
Are people really arguing about 8’ beds?

If if you don’t like them, that’s just fine... but I use my truck. Its my daily driver, but it’s also my weekend workhorse.

I heat with wood and have to buy it split. Can fit 1/2 to 2/3 a cord neatly stacked, 40% more than my last truck... hay for the animals- 5 bikes, coolers, gear and firewood for camping trips, and right now my boys dirt bike and soon my quad will easily fit in there with room to spare.

I will never own another short bed, unless it’s for a play truck - like the bulk of new 1500’s are.
When I used to pickup firewood, I took a dump trailer. 2+ cords in one trip thrown in, and instead of neatly stacking twice, you throw in, dump it out, then stack. Now I have a guy that delivers 5 at a time with a tandam dump truck cheaper than I can process.

Again my argument is that the gain in functionality for ME between a 6.9 and 8 foot bed is very minimal in real world scenarios. There are way better tools for the task... if I'm picking up firewood logs, I take the 22 foot deck trailer. Moving dirt bikes and quads? The small 12 foot ramp trailer, or the 22 foot trailer when we used to haul loads of bikes and quads. This leaves the bed empty for gear and supplies. The shorter wheel base and bed makes it easier to navigate all those pretty new parking lots with concrete curbs everywhere designed for smart cars.

Now, the fishing rods under the cap is actually a real world scenario that makes a lot of sense and I can't argue against.
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I am relatively new to Superduty ownership, purchased a single rear wheel 2018 F350 in October. I have the crew cab and 8í bed. Truck is gas with Lariat ultimate package, FWD with the off road package.

I could have squeaked by with an F150 with the max tow package and if I had not wanted a Lariat or above dress I would have. There were great deals on the XLTs but once you went to Lariat or above the F150 were nearly the same $$ as the F350s.

Once I climbed into the wheelhouse on the F350, I fell in love. I like the ride, seats are incredibly comfortable and while the ride might be a little stiff, itís not uncomfortable and that stiffness IMO is at least partially a result of the truck being so robustly built nothing is absorbed by the flexing of anything out side of the suspension components. I drove a 1/2 dozen or so F350s before selecting mine and noticed a significant difference with the ride between the F350s rolling on 20Ē Michelinís and those not. I found the ride on the Michelinís to be vastly superior compared to the trucks that didnít have them which all seemed to have some sort of vibration that really turned me off. I would not have bought one of the trucks that didnít have Michelinís, it was that noticeable in every truck I test drove.

My truck on the highway feels like itís crawling at 65mph and wants to do 80. Ride is good at either speed and Iíve had it up close to 100 a time or two, does it easily with plenty left and the ride felt solid and totally controllable.

My only comments thus far in my ownership experience is that the truck is THIRSTY. A lot of steel and Aluminum to move and the 6.2 does a great job of doing it but it does have a liking for the go juice.....
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Originally Posted by TurboJoe View Post
When I used to pickup firewood, I took a dump trailer. 2+ cords in one trip thrown in, and instead of neatly stacking twice, you throw in, dump it out, then stack. Now I have a guy that delivers 5 at a time with a tandam dump truck cheaper than I can process.

Again my argument is that the gain in functionality for ME between a 6.9 and 8 foot bed is very minimal in real world scenarios. There are way better tools for the task... if I'm picking up firewood logs, I take the 22 foot deck trailer. Moving dirt bikes and quads? The small 12 foot ramp trailer, or the 22 foot trailer when we used to haul loads of bikes and quads. This leaves the bed empty for gear and supplies. The shorter wheel base and bed makes it easier to navigate all those pretty new parking lots with concrete curbs everywhere designed for smart cars.

Now, the fishing rods under the cap is actually a real world scenario that makes a lot of sense and I can't argue against.
canít fit the quads/dirt bikes and camping gear on a trailer when Iím also pulling my travel trailer.

I need the 8í bed.
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I am relatively new to Superduty ownership, purchased a single rear wheel 2018 F350 in October. I have the crew cab and 8í bed. Truck is gas with Lariat ultimate package, FWD with the off road package.

I could have squeaked by with an F150 with the max tow package and if I had not wanted a Lariat or above dress I would have. There were great deals on the XLTs but once you went to Lariat or above the F150 were nearly the same $$ as the F350s.

Once I climbed into the wheelhouse on the F350, I fell in love. I like the ride, seats are incredibly comfortable and while the ride might be a little stiff, itís not uncomfortable and that stiffness IMO is at least partially a result of the truck being so robustly built nothing is absorbed by the flexing of anything out side of the suspension components. I drove a 1/2 dozen or so F350s before selecting mine and noticed a significant difference with the ride between the F350s rolling on 20Ē Michelinís and those not. I found the ride on the Michelinís to be vastly superior compared to the trucks that didnít have them which all seemed to have some sort of vibration that really turned me off. I would not have bought one of the trucks that didnít have Michelinís, it was that noticeable in every truck I test drove.

My truck on the highway feels like itís crawling at 65mph and wants to do 80. Ride is good at either speed and Iíve had it up close to 100 a time or two, does it easily with plenty left and the ride felt solid and totally controllable.

My only comments thus far in my ownership experience is that the truck is THIRSTY. A lot of steel and Aluminum to move and the 6.2 does a great job of doing it but it does have a liking for the go juice.....
I can't imagine the milage on an F350 with the 6.2l. The F150 I just traded in had the 6.2L motor and I would average 12.2 to 12.4mpg. My 2019 250 with the diesel has been averaging just shy of 16mpg.

I test drove an 350 and 250 and I felt a difference in ride, maybe it was just perception. I have a 5th wheel that weighs 12K and the max gvwr is 14,000, just shy of the weight rating of my truck. I decided to go with the 250 and throw a set of airbags on it for when I tow the 5the wheel.
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