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Old 01-09-2019, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by thefuzz View Post
I do want leather, after looking around a bit today, I'm seeing more cloth than I was expecting.

Drive about 35 minutes 1 way to work everyday, so kinda interested in the 2.7 vs. 3.5, but I also want to move up from a 20' boat to a 25' or more....so leaning 3.5 if I can swing the price.

Any fear of those turbo charged engines?

Would be my first truck since 1999...been in SUV's since then due to the nature of my work, but ready for a change, and gotta tip the hat to the wife for letting me get a new one vs. her.
i just bought an '18 XLT. i also didnt want to spend the extra money to go up to the lariat when all i really wanted was the leather seats. i just bought Katskins and had them installed. it is supposed to be better quality and was about $300 cheaper than having dealer install. i have the 3.5 w/ crewcab and 6.5' bed. i love it. no complaints out of me yet w/ right at 5k miles
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:25 AM
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2016 XLT SCrew 2WD w/ 2.7EB here. Almost 17k miles without any issue. Tows my 5k+ lb boat without issue. Without the bot behind it, especially in Sport mode, the truck plain out hauls ____.

I have cloth seats, but actually prefer them over the leather. The “cloth” is really heavy and firm making it quite durable and I find it to be very comfortable. My only hard must-have interior comfort-wise was the full center console instead of the gold down arm rest. It’s only a few hundred dollars and completely worth it for the amount of storage you get and I just find it more comfortable. I wouldn’t ever have the need to put a 6th person there anyway. The console also gives HVAC vents for the rear seat passengers as well as additional power ports and USBs.

Not sure where you are, but some of the larger volume dealers still have some leftover 2018’s in stock that can be had for really good prices. If you’re anywhere near Tampa, I highly recommend Brandon Ford. Probably the best sales experience I’ve had when buying a new car and extremely reasonable prices straight out of the gate. The amount of inventory they have on F150’s is hard to believe.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GLASSTREAM 27 View Post

Picked this up in 12/22. 3.0 Powerstroke. So far love it! Still have some time to go before towing.

That truck looks sharp. Do the tow mirrors support the BLIS system? (Blind Spot Indicator)
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:25 AM
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I have a 2012 3.5 eco boost supercrew with 160,000 miles on it. I’ll be the first to admit, I drive like an assh*le. It will flat out go. I’ve owned at least one of every major truck brand since 1990. This was the first Ford and when this thing dies I’ll buy another. It’s the best performing and most fun truck I’ve had. Don’t count on great gas mileage. I get around 15 mpg but drive like an idiot. I’ve towed my 24’ bay boat with t top from Chattanooga to grand isle, LA and the Keys. If I’m not careful I’m doing 80 and barely know the boat is back there. Towing I get 10 mpg. This inside is way roomy which was main reason for purchase. (3 kids backpacks, sports bags, etc..) Hesitant to get a new one as I’m skeptical about aluminum body. Wife has had issues with corrosion on expedition back gate. Had to lawyer up but they finally caved and fixed it.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:07 PM
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I had my 07 2500HD for 11 years and 165k miles and after a lot of thought and research ended up with what you see on the right, 2018 F150 3.5 Platinum. I test drove both half ton and 3/4 ton diesel GMC sierra Denalis and couldn't get over the larger rear cab space of the Ford as well as available tech options, and rear A/C vents are a novel concept that GM decided to overlook.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bayfisher92 View Post
That truck looks sharp. Do the tow mirrors support the BLIS system? (Blind Spot Indicator)
Thanks! Yes it does support BLIS even for the trailer also when it's programmed in.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:29 AM
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I got the 2017 STX package with a 2.7 ecoboost that has super power. Here's a video of what I got except mine is white and has running boards along with 2 110v/400w outlets:


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Old 01-11-2019, 04:54 AM
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Who could possibly argue that the F150 isn’t a much better looking truck than the GM 1500 or that any of the GM engine options for the 1500 come close to the 3.5 Ecoboost?


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I had my 07 2500HD for 11 years and 165k miles and after a lot of thought and research ended up with what you see on the right, 2018 F150 3.5 Platinum. I test drove both half ton and 3/4 ton diesel GMC sierra Denalis and couldn't get over the larger rear cab space of the Ford as well as available tech options, and rear A/C vents are a novel concept that GM decided to overlook.

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Old 01-11-2019, 09:39 AM
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Who could possibly argue that the F150 isn’t a much better looking truck than the GM 1500 or that any of the GM engine options for the 1500 come close to the 3.5 Ecoboost`
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mmccombs View Post
I must be one of the unlucky ones. My 2013 ecoboost started having this problem
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/2011-e...art-up-204007/
just before my warranty expired. Made it to dealership about 50 miles past 60k. A couple of months back and forth and we split the bill. Now engine is throwing same codes 20k miles post repair. No rattle, just CEL. Taking it to shop Thur for formal diagnosis. I know they have sold a huge number of these engines and a lot have been flawless. Just leaves a bad taste when I’m looking at spending several thousand dollars in repairs and haven’t hit 90k.
Let me know which CEL you are getting.

I had my timing chain replaced by the dealer, the dealership screwed up when installing the phasers and one of them came loose or went bad 10,000 miles later. It was throwing a timing code. It was a bitch to get them to fix the problem because the code only showed up once, but a problem kept repeating itself where it would be down on power. I had to trick the computer into throwing the code again so they would tear it down, where they found the obvious problem.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post
...that any of the GM engine options for the 1500 come close to the 3.5 Ecoboost?

375hp 470tq seems to be close to 420hp 460tq
0-60s are all over the board depending on who is testing. Motorweek had Sierra Denali 6.2 at 5.7sec, found some F150s close to that.

I didn't pull up the raptor's number, figured you were talking about the mainstream engines.

So to me they come close, of course the definition of close varies...
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
375hp 470tq seems to be close to 420hp 460tq
0-60s are all over the board depending on who is testing. Motorweek had Sierra Denali 6.2 at 5.7sec, found some F150s close to that.

I didn't pull up the raptor's number, figured you were talking about the mainstream engines.

So to me they come close, of course the definition of close varies...
hmmm. According to Motorweek the little 2.7 eco runs with the 6.2. 2018 Ford F-150 | MotorWeek

Show me a GM gas truck motor that makes about 500 hp and well over 500 ftlb at the crank with just a simple tune like the 3.5 easily does. I have never had a gas truck run like my ‘18 F150.
Of course more towing capacity as well.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post


hmmm. According to Motorweek the little 2.7 eco runs with the 6.2. 2018 Ford F-150 MotorWeek

Show me a GM gas truck motor that makes about 500 hp and well over 500 ftlb at the crank with just a simple tune like the 3.5 easily does. I have never had a gas truck run like my ‘18 F150.
Of course more towing capacity as well.
I didn't realize the 2.7 and 3.5 had similar 0 to 60 times... Thanks!

And it's glad you understand that engines are really just air pumps and it's cheaper to get more air through a stock boosted engine. In your previous post I thought close was comparing stock engines. I think the 6.2 does ok if you add more air as well, arguably does better. Most would say that 650hp is better than 550hp, not close.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
I didn't realize the 2.7 and 3.5 had similar 0 to 60 times... Thanks!

And it's glad you understand that engines are really just air pumps and it's cheaper to get more air through a stock boosted engine. In your previous post I thought close was comparing stock engines. I think the 6.2 does ok if you add more air as well, arguably does better. Most would say that 650hp is better than 550hp, not close.
Don’t worry I understand what an internal combustion engine is and how it runs. I also understand that torque rules in pick up trucks. In addition I understand what the most inexpensive way to build horsepower and torque is and it is not taking apart a 6.2 to add a cam, heads, intake, exhaust and then on top of that....of course a tune just to compete with a tune and a little more boost.
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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post


Don’t worry I understand what an internal combustion engine is and how it runs. I also understand that torque rules in pick up trucks. In addition I understand what the most inexpensive way to build horsepower and torque is and it is not taking apart a 6.2 to add a cam, heads, intake, exhaust and then on top of that....of course a tune just to compete with a tune and a little more boost.
OK, to summarize:
- Stock, engines close
- Small amount of dollars to spend, Eco 3.5 will win
- Large amount of dollars to spend, boosted larger displacement will win.

So which category was your first comment directed at? Just trying to stay in the lane... bro.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
OK, to summarize:
- Stock, engines close
- Small amount of dollars to spend, Eco 3.5 will win
- Large amount of dollars to spend, boosted larger displacement will win.

So which category was your first comment directed at? Just trying to stay in the lane... bro.
I guess first of all the 3.5 stock has more torque and is more capable overall just from driving it. The stock 3.5 motor is more amenable to very inexpensive upgrades which the stock GM motor is not. The stock 3.5 tows over a half a ton more than the stock GM motor. All of these certainly seem to support a statement that the GM motors don’t come close.

$600 upgrades to the GM motor and it will just make more noise while the 3.5 will produce awesome horsepower as well as torque and will perform significantly better throughout the power band.

Generally those are are the basis for my statements.

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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post

... The stock 3.5 tows over a half a ton more than the stock GM motor. All of these certainly seem to support a statement that the GM motors don’t come close.
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You lost me at a half ton... isn't that 1000 lbs? Better check the specs, there were some early sites that used the 2018 numbers. But's it's kind of stupid to talk about towing 12.5k with a half ton anyway.

So one has less HP and more TQ vs more HP and less TQ, both within a few percent of each other clearly in most worlds would be defined as close, which is what you started this with. That's my only point.

If you would of posted that engine xx is better because you can up the boost and get more power than any NA motor, that's is a true statement.
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Originally Posted by billablehours View Post


hmmm. According to Motorweek the little 2.7 eco runs with the 6.2. 2018 Ford F-150 MotorWeek

Show me a GM gas truck motor that makes about 500 hp and well over 500 ftlb at the crank with just a simple tune like the 3.5 easily does. I have never had a gas truck run like my ‘18 F150.
Of course more towing capacity as well.
I have the 3.5 in my explorer lease... what's this about 500 hp with a tune?
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I was just over in the Atlanta area and spent the night in Winder, GA--home of Akins Ford. They also have Ram trucks. I bought my F250 diesel from them 16 years ago while living 20 miles away--just before moving to the Tennessee River in Alabama.

I have simply never seen so many pickup trucks--both Ford and Ram. They have about 500 F150's and 300 Ram trucks on the lot right now.

Akins by far the largest selling car dealership in the Atlanta area, and they are very aggressive on pricing. Being an independent owned dealer, they have always shot me a straight forward deal. (I avoid chain owned car dealerships for many reasons.) And they have every kind of Ford and Ram truck needed, including utility beds, rollback beds, cranes, etc. in stock.

If anyone is looking to compare prices, etc., check their website. These guys do a huge internet business and they're the Big Dogs in the Southeast.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
You lost me at a half ton... isn't that 1000 lbs? Better check the specs, there were some early sites that used the 2018 numbers. But's it's kind of stupid to talk about towing 12.5k with a half ton anyway.

So one has less HP and more TQ vs more HP and less TQ, both within a few percent of each other clearly in most worlds would be defined as close, which is what you started this with. That's my only point.

If you would of posted that engine xx is better because you can up the boost and get more power than any NA motor, that's is a true statement.
Have you even driven both? My guess is no. The performance feels like night and day even bone stock. What do you think matters more motivating A 5000# pick up...torque or horsepower?

Yes, 12000# is the towing capacity for the ‘19 Sierra Denali listed in the Motorweek article you quoted from but the real rating per GMC is only 9600#. https://www.gmc.com/trucks/sierra-denali-pickup-truck.


Yes... 12,000# vs 13200# is over a 1/2 ton. Actually, a full 10% more towing capacity. According to GMC however it is over a ton and a half anemic. 9600# v 13,200#. Obviously, you don’t have to pull the maximum to feel the difference in tow ratings.

Go out and drive them both. Night and day.
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