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Old 12-06-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vantaredoc View Post
For all that ugly, they better make the mirrors power extend finally!!!
Those mirrors are terrible looking, if they don't even power extend then I don't see point.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuna Colada View Post
The High Country version of the HD looks a hell of a lot better.
Now that looks much better. I could go for that. I even like it more than the GMC. They are looking to force customers up to the High Country trim by making the lower level grills hideous. Genius!

Do you suppose they saw the reaction to the first release the other day and got this out in a hurry?
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:18 PM
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But those rims though. Those will never be clean.
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Originally Posted by Tuna Colada View Post
The High Country version of the HD looks a hell of a lot better.
looks much better with the bow tie than the other pic. Would look really good with the big chrome bar being body color instead of chrome.
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Originally Posted by evanP220 View Post
Bullshit..... cite your source please sir
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

$82K. Add tax, tag, title, and dealer fee. Your knocking on $90K which is close to my "around" $100K.

Now I know GM gives huge incentives because they cant sell them. However as the first model year, those incentives are non-existent at the start.
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Originally Posted by CheddarMan View Post
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

$82K. Add tax, tag, title, and dealer fee. Your knocking on $90K which is close to my "around" $100K.

Now I know GM gives huge incentives because they cant sell them. However as the first model year, those incentives are non-existent at the start.
like I said bullshit.....thats a 2019......and I can find a truck with those same options in my area for around 70k
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annndddddd here's my proof https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...lickType=alpha
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Originally Posted by Tuna Colada View Post
The High Country version of the HD looks a hell of a lot better.
That looks a lot better
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Originally Posted by kawakx125 View Post
Diesels actually create an immense amount of heat, and like to run warm under a load. They take so long to warm up in cool temps because they have such large cooling systems

Yeah, not really. That's why they have to cover most or all of the grill on 18 wheelers? While they're towing 80,000 lbs and they never take it off during winter? OK.

I watched my temp gauge this morning on the way to the office after making that post yesterday. It was 40F outside when I left the house. Trip in is 19 miles. Let it idle about 15 mins before I left. I was about 4 miles from the office when it finally hit full operating temp and 35 minutes after I left the house. So explain to me how that BIG cooling system comes into play when the thermostats are completely closed... as they were this morning till it ran for 50 minutes and 15 miles of city drving.

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Old 12-06-2018, 05:06 PM
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apparently, you're wrong.

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...lverad-hd.html


Since introducing the industry’s first three-truck strategy with midsize, full-size light-duty and full-size heavy-duty trucks in 2014, GM has been the best-selling truck manufacturer for four consecutive years. The company has sold more than 600,000 pickups than the closest manufacturer from 2014 through the first three quarters of 2018
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Originally Posted by ZMAN617 View Post
That looks a lot better

A WHOLE lot better! I was planning to go LTZ not High Country but I'd pay the extra for the HC grill alone LOL.

They don't specify what trim level the truck with the god awful grill is but I'd expect at least LT. I know they have 5 trim levels for the 2020 HD and 8 for the 1500. We'll see.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
A WHOLE lot better! I was planning to go LTZ not High Country but I'd pay the extra for the HC grill alone LOL.

They don't specify what trim level the truck with the god awful grill is but I'd expect at least LT. I know they have 5 trim levels for the 2020 HD and 8 for the 1500. We'll see.
Agreed. The High Country grill is miles better than what I am suspecting is the LT grill. See here: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/04/...#slide-7479534

If you click on the picture where you can see the tailgate you can see the LT badging.

I am curious to see what GMC has to offer. Hopefully something similar to what the High Country has. I am a bit in shock that the LT grill got the approval from the design team...

I'm also glad to see that GM finally decided to hide that God awful, hideous DEF tank.
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Originally Posted by On the Half Shell View Post
Those mirrors are terrible looking, if they don't even power extend then I don't see point.

Pretty sure they were designed to eliminate a blind spot that the old mirrors had.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tripleplay1 View Post
Pretty sure they were designed to eliminate a blind spot that the old mirrors had.
It's not the actual mirror portion that is ugly, it's that double 90-degree angle arm. Should have just mounted it straight out
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Originally Posted by CheddarMan View Post
That is awful. Way to much going on. Looks as big as the front end of a Peterbuilt.
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Originally Posted by ZMAN617 View Post
That looks a lot better
The bow tie fixes everything
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
Yeah, not really. That's why they have to cover most or all of the grill on 18 wheelers? While they're towing 80,000 lbs and they never take it off during winter? OK.

I watched my temp gauge this morning on the way to the office after making that post yesterday. It was 40F outside when I left the house. Trip in is 19 miles. Let it idle about 15 mins before I left. I was about 4 miles from the office when it finally hit full operating temp and 35 minutes after I left the house. So explain to me how that BIG cooling system comes into play when the thermostats are completely closed... as they were this morning till it ran for 50 minutes and 15 miles of city drving.
all that water has to warm up before the thermostats open, and the HUGE radiators work against the warm up. Front ends get covered to aid in warm up and retaining heat at low speeds/idle. They simply don't make enough heat at idle to keep all of that water warm with giant radiators. Under load they do, hence the need for said radiators.
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Originally Posted by evanP220 View Post
Always read the fine print buddy.

"Dealer Disclosure: Please note that our pricing on new Chevrolet's does not reflect tag, title, registration or $598 documentation fee nor does it include dealer-added accessories. Buyers must qualify for all included / generally available GM rebates which are reflected in the pricing discount from MSRP."

You just fell for a bait and switch tactic. Congratulations.
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Originally Posted by CheddarMan View Post
Always read the fine print buddy.

"Dealer Disclosure: Please note that our pricing on new Chevrolet's does not reflect tag, title, registration or $598 documentation fee nor does it include dealer-added accessories. Buyers must qualify for all included / generally available GM rebates which are reflected in the pricing discount from MSRP."

You just fell for a bait and switch tactic. Congratulations.
and you my friend are the one who posted the price of a 2019 to try and justify your claim of a 2020 being close to 100k... I'll just leave it at that
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
apparently, you're wrong.

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...lverad-hd.html


Since introducing the industry’s first three-truck strategy with midsize, full-size light-duty and full-size heavy-duty trucks in 2014, GM has been the best-selling truck manufacturer for four consecutive years. The company has sold more than 600,000 pickups than the closest manufacturer from 2014 through the first three quarters of 2018
ROFL They have to add up the sales of mid, full-size, HD, and from 2 manufactures to claim that.

Here you go buddy. Third party source:
https://www.businessinsider.com/best...america-2018-3

2. Chevrolet Silverado: 585,864

1. Ford F-Series: 896,764

Do you see what GM has to do to "claim" that statement? They need to add the numbers from Canyon, Colorado, Silverado, Sierra, and HD models.

Apparently you'll believe anything you read online. I guess you must believe the "real people" Chevy commercials too.
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