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Old 11-14-2018, 03:34 AM
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I'm one who always does their own oil change except this time. My 2017 Ford F-150 was due it's 1st oil change back in September and the dealer offered the 1st oil change on them and I took it. On September 24th to be exact. Not only did they change the oil, they washed and waxed it too! For the past few weeks I could smell from time to time a burning oil odor, not strong but I could detect it. Thinking the mechanic may have spilled some oil on the manifold I ignored it. Well last night while at work I decided to check my windshield washing fluid level. As I opened the hood and trying to reach the thumb latch I could see a round yellow & black object between the coolant res. and the hood. I thought it was a small flashlight but it wasn't, it was the oil cap! All this time I was driving without an oil cap! Oil had sprayed all around the engine compartment! I was amazed to see the oil level was still full though! I called the dealer and they offered to steam clean the engine compartment. I guess I'm going back to changing my own oil! BTW......They filled the windshield washing fluid too, but they put the cap on!
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:14 AM
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Note to self....
I follow the President Regan motto with respect to checking stuff after others work on my stuff.....
"trust but verify"
doing oil changes on all my vehicles...oh since about 1972 or so. I check myself, always, right after and the day after that. Look under at the drain plug, look at the filter and cap.
just so you know, in most dealer ships the oil changer guys are kids with little experience and probably not too much work ethic. Do it yourself!
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:27 AM
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Time to call serv-pro. That smoke from the oil smell and the remediation will likely require a new truck.


Glad it was an easy fix.
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You're lucky that they at least filled it with oil.
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When I took my BMW in for service they detailed the car and even left flowers on the passenger side seat.
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Next: check to see how captain moron rounded off the drain plug nut so you can enjoy having to use a vice grip to get it off.
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I always changed my own as well until life just got too busy about 6-7 years ago. I took it to a dealer who was running a oil change special; a little while afterward I began getting an emission light. So I took it back to them as there was probably something they did that caused it but they insisted they couldn't have done anything to emissions so would charge to check it. I could've cracked the hood and looked but I resisted the urge.... oh well. The light wasn't affecting the engine so I finally got around to checking and good grief.... they had left a couple vacuum lines off. And cracked another at a fitting. I couldn't believe the thing was still running. Hooked em' back up, replaced the cracked line and ran it for a little while before the light reset itself. I still pay to get it changed but always inspect before leaving. To this day I can't even understand why they would have needed to disconnect those lines?? Unless they were hoping for more self-made biz.
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Its strange. I change my own oil because I don't trust the dealer but I take my wife's car in.
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First time since car ownership I decided to take wifes xterra in for oil change. We were running short on time before the holidays. It's the most basic of vehicle mantinance, "how hard could it be?". Next day oil plug falls out while she was driving. Needless to say she didn't notice the oil light. And didn't stop driving until she calls because "my engine doesn't sound good".
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Originally Posted by SalmonDaze View Post
Next: check to see how captain moron rounded off the drain plug nut so you can enjoy having to use a vice grip to get it off.
The drain plug in my car is plastic. It gets replaced every oil change with the filter. The Oil Pan is plastic too.
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What is this world coming to? Where is the work ethic?
I guess its the 'here's my degree where's my job' generation!
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What is this world coming to? Where is the work ethic?
I guess its the 'here's my degree where's my job' generation!
I get the peace of mind by doing it yourself but when the difference is $5 and the guy at the shop rotates the tires also its a no brainer
Although I always feel like I could have done it 3x as fast
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$350 to have my Macan done. $70 in parts and 40 minutes and I’m done. Complete ripoff.
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I change my own oil, for the most part. For 100,000 miles on my cobalt the local chevy dealership ran a $9.99 oil change. The filter for that car was $7 at AUtoZone, so that was a no brainer. My Powerstroke takes 16 Qts of oil, and a big spin on filter. I have never taken that thing in to get an oil change because I am scared to know what they would charge me. I am back to changing my own oil in the cobalt. My PT cruiser is so good it changes its own oil, just add a bit everytime you get gas.
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Old 11-14-2018, 03:57 PM
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Change my own oil on my rav4 I commute in...my ecodiesel that tows the boat I do myself...dealer wants way to much...my explorer gets free oil changed from ford
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:08 PM
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I'm one who always does their own oil change except this time. My 2017 Ford F-150 was due it's 1st oil change back in September and the dealer offered the 1st oil change on them and I took it. On September 24th to be exact. Not only did they change the oil, they washed and waxed it too! For the past few weeks I could smell from time to time a burning oil odor, not strong but I could detect it. Thinking the mechanic may have spilled some oil on the manifold I ignored it. Well last night while at work I decided to check my windshield washing fluid level. As I opened the hood and trying to reach the thumb latch I could see a round yellow & black object between the coolant res. and the hood. I thought it was a small flashlight but it wasn't, it was the oil cap! All this time I was driving without an oil cap! Oil had sprayed all around the engine compartment! I was amazed to see the oil level was still full though! I called the dealer and they offered to steam clean the engine compartment. I guess I'm going back to changing my own oil! BTW......They filled the windshield washing fluid too, but they put the cap on!
same thing happened to me but not the dealer.
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Its strange. I change my own oil because I don't trust the dealer but I take my wife's car in.
Funny, I do the same thing, except my wife takes it in. BTW it is a Toyota RAV 4, 2008.

I don't trust any dealer, but this Toyota Dealership has become down - right comical. At first, I was completely against it, but she insisted, so I warned her that they would come back with a list of things that needed to be done. She agreed to call me if they did, which of course they did and still do, each and every time. At first it was frustrating, now she just hands the phone over the the "service representative".

Some notable "recommendations" in the past that stick out:
Turn the rotors - $60 per rotor (started at 5,000 miles - sticky point because imo oem toyota rotors, or at least these, are absolutely horrible - rust overnight - and they're hats - who cuts hats anymore!? and continue to ask at each oil change)
Polish the fuel lines - $450
Update software - free- Rep was proud of this fact, until I replied, politely, that it wasn't free, you just did it to lock out my code reader.

She had an oil change done this past week. i just did the brakes, so they updated their recommendations:

EFI service - $249
Vent Service and Cabin air filter $179
Brake Fluid Service - $189.

"Hi, How are you, No, No, No. Thanks. I was a little busy so I didn't ask him to explain the EFI or Vent Services. Some of those explanations are great. I did inspect the cabin air filter with my 6yo daughter right after car came back from dealer. I disassembled, and she reassembled . Filter was clean.
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This F-150 is going to be a challenge. In order to get to the drain plug I have to remove a shield. And I needed a step up onto a 6x6 block to put on the oil cap and check the dipstick, and I'm 6' tall! And no need to use my filter wrench anymore, it's a cartridge contained in a plastic cover.
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:38 AM
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Hello, just an observation, what are the main dealer garage rates in the USA, or main boat dealer pricing, to give an example Mercedes, BMW etc. main dealer is equivalent to 110USD +/- per hour, this is as expensive as it gets here in most of Europe, Mercruiser, Volvo, Cummins, CAT around 60USD +/- per hour, I completely understand doing the work yourself, I still do the bike and boats but I cannot do virtually anything on modern cars, don´t have a lift, there are plastic covers on the top and bottom and with the prices offered by quality, known independents I save almost nothing doing it myself, I used to do all the stuff on the older cars I had, we all did, but environmental laws, cars requiring diagnostic computers etc. just not worth the effort, especially when the garage is literally across the street from work, maybe a sign of the times.
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This F-150 is going to be a challenge. In order to get to the drain plug I have to remove a shield. And I needed a step up onto a 6x6 block to put on the oil cap and check the dipstick, and I'm 6' tall! And no need to use my filter wrench anymore, it's a cartridge contained in a plastic cover.
Somewhere in the last couple of years Ford started using a very funky plastic oil pan plug on the F150 that introduces a number of new failure points that did not exist as long as you didn’t cross thread or over tighten the standard threaded plug which had worked ok for the last 100 years or so......
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