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Old 08-31-2018, 11:05 PM
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Alright guys got a question.. I'm pulling a 16,000lb gooseneck from here in Houston up to Pennsylvania in a few weeks..

Truck is an '06 LBZ Duramax 2500HD crew cab short bed. Only mods done to it is a cold air, egr delete, and Kory Willis tune. Stock trans.. Truck is getting gooseneck hitch installed and brake controller next week.


This is going to be the heaviest trailer, and longest tow I've done with this truck.. what do y'all think?? Not worried about the drivetrain. Its just 16,000lbs has never been hooked on this truck, and it's first time is going to be cross country....

I've got access to use a 2015 Duramax 3500 DRW if it's a better option but I'd rather take my personal truck for certain reasons.

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Old 08-31-2018, 11:48 PM
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I did some drivin' for my last company - tractor trailer to boats - and I blew an engine in an older F450 pulling a trailer around Tenn headed to FL and it was a PIA . I would choose the 3500 . Make sure the Trailer lights , reflective stickers , bearings , etc is all good cause break downs far from home suck or getting pulled over is just an excuse to look for more things illegal . About the 16 K weight on the 3/4 I really don't know , you'll hit some hills / mtns in PA that will give either truck a workout pulling 16 K ... imo . Does the 3500 have an exhaust brake ? A boring trip with a good meal thrown in is a good trip . My 2 cents . Best of Luck .

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I wouldn’t hesitate to make that tow with the 2500 assuming you have proper tires on it and it is good shape.

I would scale the truck by itself and with an empty trailer hooked up to get an idea of how to load it and achieve good weight distribution (document both, handy to have day to day). Then weigh again before hitting the road to insure you have food load distribution front to back.
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I put over 100k miles on my 06 ext cab 2500hd duramax towing 13,000 lbs on a standard hitch. I would not hesitate for a second to bump up to 16,000 on a goose neck. The goose does tow a bit differently, get a little time in before making a long run to learn the trailer. Be sure your tires are in good shape.
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Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
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My experience with a 2005 2500HD Duramax bumper pulling 14,000 in Pennsylvania many times - the truck handled the load well. I do drive slower when towing heavy and use the tow haul mode. The 2006 you have has more HP and torque than the 2005. Level ground and up hills are easy, going down hills the load will push the truck but slower speed and braking will be up to the task.

I now own a 2012 3500HD single wheel Duramax. In 2011 GM redesigned the trucks with stronger brakes and an added an engine brake to the Duramax this Greatly improved the trucks over the road towing performance. Now I can set the cruise to 65 and the truck holds that speed up hill or going down with out any braking making towing much easier on me the driver.

So the 2006 2500HD will get the job done, 2015 3500HD will also do the job but with less driver stress.
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Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
So you are making the argument that a trucks capacity goes down with age? On what fantasy are you basing that on?
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Originally Posted by BottomPicker View Post
Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
If you have no clue what you are talking about, why bother commenting? 16,000 lbs on gooseneck is well within the limits of the truck regardless of its age providing its brakes, tires, etc are in good condition. Remember to always check the limits on your keyboard before typing. Just sayin
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Originally Posted by BottomPicker View Post
Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
Since you are willing to (play) Lawyer, lets have some hard evidence.
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Originally Posted by BottomPicker View Post
Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
Wow what a stupid comment. Must come from a pretty stupid person
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Thanks for the replies guys!! Im not worried about it making it up there, I know it will PULL it no problem. Just wasn't too sure about it handling it in general and stopping.

The truck is in great shape! I always keep it up to par and tow 7-8k on the bumper often around Texas. Maybe im just under estimating my own truck lol. Either way, im going to see about using the 3500. Rather take mine, but I'd feel more comfortable with that extra ass end and the exhaust brake I think
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A quick google search shows gross combined weigh rating of 23,200lbs. Pin probably shouldn't exceed 3000lbs. You should be fine, even if the lawyers happen to get involved.

Could be worth a call to your insurance company for peace of mind. I had to add coverage when towing my boat at just under 13,000lbs, although is was also oversized.
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I was recently quoted $80/yr for a $1MM Umbrella policy added to my auto/home insurance plan. Should be cheaper to add for the month of the trip, if you’re worried about coverage.
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A quick Google search shows that you’ll be overloaded. Max gooseneck is around 14.5k. For sure, you’ll exceed your payload capacity.

And technically age is somewhat relevant to this topic as the newer models have improved components making the tow ratings higher than similar late model vehicles.
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Originally Posted by BottomPicker View Post
Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
By definition if your were a plaintiffs attorney you would already fall into the category of POS.

The guy is asking a honest question and you are acting like he's an idiot. If the trailer has brakes, you don't exceed tongue weight and the truck is in good order I believe you can tow 17,100 for the duramax. You should be fine. I have a 2015 duramax and tow 14000 all the time without a 5th wheel and its not overloaded and fully legal.

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Originally Posted by BottomPicker View Post
Tell your attorney, after you had an accident, that you asked opinions on THT to find if what legal and safe to tow 16,000 lbs with a 12-yr old 2500HD. I'd like to be there. If I were the plaintiffs attorney, I'd be licking my chops, and hoping you had a lot of assets I could get at. Just sayin'.
You are confusing civil liability with criminal. There is nothing illegal about towing 16k for personal use.
unless ones state of domicile requires a non commercial endorsement.
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It's all about stacking the deck in your favor to have an uneventful trip . Houston is a long way from PA and "IF" the Tranny Temp light starts glowing in the mountains I know what my only thought would be if driving the 250 .
I would bet $100 that the 06' 250 makes the trip fine , but I would put $1000 on the 15' 3500 .
This thread is a 2 part question

1) can a 06' 250 do it , sure .
2) I have a choice , what should I use - 06' 250 or 15' 3500 . No Brainer

If standing in a parking lot with a 16 K trailer , a 06' 250 and a 15' 3500 , given this task , I don't think any of the posters would choose the 250 unless they just really hated Chevy's .
You'll probably be fine either way OP , Good Luck all the same .

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It's all about stacking the deck in your favor to have an uneventful trip . Houston is a long way from PA and "IF" the Tranny Temp light starts glowing in the mountains I know what my only thought would be if driving the 250 .
I would bet $100 that the 06' 250 makes the trip fine , but I would put $1000 on the 15' 3500 .
This thread is a 2 part question

1) can a 06' 250 do it , sure .
2) I have a choice , what should I use - 06' 250 or 15' 3500 . No Brainer

If standing in a parking lot with a 16 K trailer , a 06' 250 and a 15' 3500 , given this task , I don't think any of the posters would choose the 250 unless they just really hated Chevy's .
You'll probably be fine either way OP , Good Luck all the same .
Both trucks are Chevys, read the first post again.
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Both trucks are Chevys, read the first post again.
My mistake , points still about the same - older 3/4 v newer 1 ton on a multi state towing trip .
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One comment I will make is what a friend said when we were talking about his F350 Dually. He said "would you rather have two tires in the rear in contact with the road with an imprint not much bigger than your hand, or four"? He was pulling a five horse gooseneck trailer at the time. Never forgot that statement! Dave
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