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Old 08-29-2018, 06:22 PM
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Question new F150 w/2.7 or ram w/5.7

It's time to replace my old truck. I've been quoted near about the same price for 2018 F150 XLT with 2.7L and 2018 Ram 1500 Big horn with 5.7. My boat weighs about 7K pounds. Specs on thee trucks say they can easily tow that weight.

Anyone have any issues with either one of these trucks?
Old 08-29-2018, 06:24 PM
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I have been very happy with the build quality of my 16 F150. Just hit 60K this week and it’s never been back to the dealer or any other shop.
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How much more for the 3.5. I’m sure the 2.7 will get the job done, but the 3.5 makes a stupid amount of power and still gets very respectable mileage. When it comes to towing, you don’t want something that is just ok. You want something with enough power to make the task enjoyable and stress free.
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Originally Posted by smsjlong View Post
It's time to replace my old truck. I've been quoted near about the same price for 2018 F150 XLT with 2.7L and 2018 Ram 1500 Big horn with 5.7. My boat weighs about 7K pounds. Specs on thee trucks say they can easily tow that weight.

Anyone have any issues with either one of these trucks?
Keep in mind that the 2.7 comes on the light duty frame of the f150. The 5.0 and 3.5 come with the heavy duty frame. The 2.7 will have a much lower payload (probably around 1400 pounds). The 2.7 is probably the best motor that is available in these trucks from an engineering standpoint. It will have no problem PULLING that trailer. 1/2 trucks are almost always limited by what they can HAUL not what they can pull. Assume you are going to put a bed liner and a cover on the truck you could lost as much as 150 pounds already leaving you 1250 for tongue weight + cargo. With that boat plus some cargo and a few people you might be pushing it.
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I have driven both. My Dad has a 2017 F150 crew cab with the 2.7 and we have a 2017 Ram 5.7 crew cab. There is no comparison in real wood towing. The Ram is superior. IMO 7k is too much for that Ford. Both are good trucks. Both trucks handle very similarly. Ford gets about 24mpg empty on the highway vs. the Ram at about 19mpg. I think a better comparison would be the 5.7 Ram vs. Fords 3.5 ecoboost.
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I pull 7K with mine I have no problems. Really pleased overall with everything.
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Thanks for all the responses. I am definitely leaning toward the dodge. I still think the offer I got is still on the high side. Going to go drive both of them tomorrow and see which one can come up with the better deal.
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Not giving the 3.5 Ford any consideration? The Dodge is great, but the 3.5 is in a league of it's on in that segment. Only thing close is the GM 6.2.
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Yes gonna look at the 3.5 tomorrow as well. Dealer just has a limited amount of those on the lot.
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Originally Posted by rucus0101 View Post
Keep in mind that the 2.7 comes on the light duty frame of the f150. The 5.0 and 3.5 come with the heavy duty frame. ...
Pretty sure you have to get the heavy duty payload package for it to have the upgraded frame. Cannot get HDPP with the 2.7L. May have to get the 3.5L in order to get the HDPP.
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Originally Posted by doyall View Post
Pretty sure you have to get the heavy duty payload package for it to have the upgraded frame. Cannot get HDPP with the 2.7L. May have to get the 3.5L in order to get the HDPP.

There are 3 different frames available and the GVWR increases with each frame size. As you know on a 1/2 ton's the "tow" ratings are mostly B.S. What will limit you is your payload capacity of the truck.


LD (3.3, 2.7)
HD(5.0,3.5)
HDD(5.0,3.55 with HDPP)


There is something called the 2.7 payload package which actually puts the 2.7 into the HD frame. Its quite a good truck if you get it. It has an excellent payload, great mileage and respectable towing capability. You will not find said truck on any dealer lot though as they do not stock them. Since OP is looking to purchase something off the lot his best option to tow a 7000 pounds trailer is to look for an XLT 302A with the 3.5 EB or 5.0 and Max tow and minimal other options. Dont spring for the tailgate step, the 20 inch rims or any other BS you really dont need. You should be able to get a truck like that out the door for around 40k and it will have plenty of comfort, a 1900 Pound payload (your not getting that in that Ram), and be able to tow like a beast (for a 1/2 ton).
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Originally Posted by smsjlong View Post
Thanks for all the responses. I am definitely leaning toward the dodge. I still think the offer I got is still on the high side. Going to go drive both of them tomorrow and see which one can come up with the better deal.
Open the drivers door and look at the little yellow sticker that lists payload on the truck. That is the most important number when considering a truck for a particular use case.
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Originally Posted by rucus0101 View Post
There are 3 different frames available and the GVWR increases with each frame size. As you know on a 1/2 ton's the "tow" ratings are mostly B.S. What will limit you is your payload capacity of the truck.


LD (3.3, 2.7)
HD(5.0,3.5)
HDD(5.0,3.55 with HDPP)


There is something called the 2.7 payload package which actually puts the 2.7 into the HD frame. Its quite a good truck if you get it. It has an excellent payload, great mileage and respectable towing capability. You will not find said truck on any dealer lot though as they do not stock them. Since OP is looking to purchase something off the lot his best option to tow a 7000 pounds trailer is to look for an XLT 302A with the 3.5 EB or 5.0 and Max tow and minimal other options. Dont spring for the tailgate step, the 20 inch rims or any other BS you really dont need. You should be able to get a truck like that out the door for around 40k and it will have plenty of comfort, a 1900 Pound payload (your not getting that in that Ram), and be able to tow like a beast (for a 1/2 ton).
I am going to disagree on the tailgate step. For years I thought like you and thought what a waste that thing is....I'll never use it etc. However, my most recent purchase has the tailgate step and I now consider it something I almost couldn't live without. As I get older (46) my ability and desire for climbing into the bed of a truck has decreased rapidly and I thank my stars for that stupid little tailgate step.
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Why not also consider the Ford 5.0L?
Having driven all of the Fords, the 5.0L is my pick as best overall engine and it doesn't get enough consideration.

Of course I'm bias, I love the 5.7L Hemi in my truck
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Originally Posted by cohea View Post
I am going to disagree on the tailgate step. For years I thought like you and thought what a waste that thing is....I'll never use it etc. However, my most recent purchase has the tailgate step and I now consider it something I almost couldn't live without. As I get older (46) my ability and desire for climbing into the bed of a truck has decreased rapidly and I thank my stars for that stupid little tailgate step.

The step is a nice option but a costly one. It's 46 pounds of payload and about 60 pounds of additional load on the rear axle.
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big dumb engine for a work truck. I don't think I've ever seen a boat trailer hooked to a Formula1 car....
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Hemi all the way. Add a mopar cold air intake and cat back and enjoy the symphony of V8 music. Every time I drive my 07 Jeep it puts a smile on my face...
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My new '18 F150 Lariat has the 3.5. It tows my 25' Contender with ridiculous ease and pulls it out of the water like nobody's business. All that and 23.5 mpg from house to work during the week. Yep, that engine is a stud.
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Originally Posted by rucus0101 View Post
Keep in mind that the 2.7 comes on the light duty frame of the f150. The 5.0 and 3.5 come with the heavy duty frame. The 2.7 will have a much lower payload (probably around 1400 pounds). The 2.7 is probably the best motor that is available in these trucks from an engineering standpoint. It will have no problem PULLING that trailer. 1/2 trucks are almost always limited by what they can HAUL not what they can pull. Assume you are going to put a bed liner and a cover on the truck you could lost as much as 150 pounds already leaving you 1250 for tongue weight + cargo. With that boat plus some cargo and a few people you might be pushing it.
Are you saying that Ford has two separate F-150 frames? First time I have heard that.
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I have never towed with the Dodge 5.7, but I own a 2016 Ford F-150 with the 2.7 and have towed 7k with it. I had ZERO issues pulling 7k and the motor had plenty of power for the task. The 2.7 has a HD block (compacted graphite) and is built to handle some abuse.

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