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Old 07-25-2018, 09:41 AM
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I have a surge bake actuator that presses against a master cylinder for disk brakes on my boat trailer. I installed an hydro-valve to act as a fluid "gate" emergency device, should my electric brake solenoid fail while backing up. Some years ago, my Tiedown solenoid failed and I ruined a set of brake pads backing up with a diesel truck. As most boaters have experienced, disk brakes don't would like drum brakes. Many boaters drill 3/8" holes through their surge brake couple instead of installing a "gate" device. They insert a 3/8" bolt if backing up. My friend told me that the "gate" device was illegal but the bolt holes are not. If it is illegal, please provide the Florida statue.
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either is legal. tell your friend to name the statute.
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:48 AM
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There are basically 4 ways to disable the brakes on a surge trailer for backing purposes; 1. bolt thru the hole that locks the slide mech to the trailer, 2. clamp the slide to the trailer, 3. blocking solenoid that keeps pressure from reaching the calipers and, 4. pressure relief solenoid that drains the pressure back to the master cylinder.
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Most surge couplers have a pin or similar gadget to use if backing up w/out the vehicle connected, or in the event of a solenoid failure. Why over-complicate a simple system?
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Originally Posted by Cobia 217 View Post
Most surge couplers have a pin or similar gadget to use if backing up w/out the vehicle connected, or in the event of a solenoid failure. Why over-complicate a simple system?
Trailer was a 1995 that I refurbished in 2012-13. My friend is getting old like me. Sometimes he gets half truths.
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:56 AM
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Block of wood between surge and trailer is always in my trailering kit in case reverse lockout solenoid goes bad and you cant back up. Has saved the day numerous times.
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What Dunk1555 posted. Its low-tech and works every time.
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Block of wood between surge and trailer is always in my trailering kit in case reverse lockout solenoid goes bad and you cant back up. Has saved the day numerous times.
This. One cut with a chop saw, 5 inches of 2x4 shaved down to fit the width, your mighty might, and a hammer. Everyone staring at you on the boat ramp during this procedure is hilarious. They either get it entirely or they spent way too much money and time on a mechanical solution.
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This. One cut with a chop saw, 5 inches of 2x4 shaved down to fit the width, your mighty might, and a hammer. Everyone staring at you on the boat ramp during this procedure is hilarious. They either get it entirely or they spent way too much money and time on a mechanical solution.
I have 3/8' drilled holes and fluid gate incase backup noid fails. Yep and I wear suspenders and a belt too. I was more concerned with legalities. Sometimes my friend is full of sh---.
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