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Old 03-12-2018, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fishknut View Post
Lots of great info and advice. I'm really confused, I have been looking hard at 150 ecoboost, a good point about beginning retirement with 8 year old truck. I was at a tire store the other day when I saw a guy towing a 31 ft bumper pull camper, which is bigger then we will most likely every have, with a 2011 F150 EB. He says he pulls it great and gets 9 when doing so. AHHHHHHHH, first world problems!!!!!
Unless you just want to have a new truck when you retire, the 8 year old truck part of it wouldn't concern me. I bought my truck in 2014 and will retire in 8 years as well. I plan on driving this truck till the wheels fall off. A buddy of mine has a 2003 F250 with 165,000 miles on it, he retired last year and is still driving "ole blue." He doesn't have a lot of the new high tech features but he also doesn't have to worry about when the new high tech features quit working and he has to take it to a dealer to get fixed...

The only reason I would get a different truck is if it blew up or if someone totaled it... If you plan your purchase to encompass what your retirement plans are then you shouldn't need anything else. I purchased a 3500 Dually with a 6.7, with over 5,500 pounds available payload and 18,000 pounds towing capacity I seriously doubt that I would ever run out of truck for anything I may need to haul or tow. I purchased my truck with the philosophy that it's better to have more than I needed then need more than I had.

The truck camper weighs around 4800 pounds and my boat weighs around 7000 pounds. I got around 9mpg towing it to the beach.

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Old 03-13-2018, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fishknut View Post
Lots of great info and advice. I'm really confused, I have been looking hard at 150 ecoboost, a good point about beginning retirement with 8 year old truck. I was at a tire store the other day when I saw a guy towing a 31 ft bumper pull camper, which is bigger then we will most likely every have, with a 2011 F150 EB. He says he pulls it great and gets 9 when doing so. AHHHHHHHH, first world problems!!!!!
Depends on what "pulls it great" means to you.. To me, I like to feel almost nothing at all behind me, and be able to pull bridges/hills without any issue. I can guarantee you, that guy with that ecoboost can definitely feel that big ass trailer behind him, and I'd also jump on a limb and say that he hasn't yanked it over any hills... If pulling good to you simply means that it can at least move the trailer 65mph, then get a gas 1/2 ton.

Like I already said, I'll never go back to a gasser nor a half ton. There's nothing that beats towing with a diesel... My favorite part is having a good chunk of weight hooked behind you, setting the cruise on 70-75mph, and when you get to an incline you hear that big bastard just grunting and groaning and chugging along and turbo whistling not even dropping a gear. I don't know if the powerstroke/cummins makes that beautiful noise, but I know damn well my Duramax gives me chills from that sound when you are hitting those hills. Never got that from my gassers, nor did I ever go over a bridge without dropping a gear.....
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I've had the 6.4 hemi in my 2017 2500 company truck. I have found it uses about a quart or more over the course of 4000 miles. Engine also knocks when cold and the fuel mileage highway unloaded is poor. I would go diesel in these trucks.
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:23 PM
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I currently have a 2016 Ram 2500 diesel crew cab long bed. Tows my 10,000 pound World Cat easily. Not gonna say that the truck doesn't know it's back there, but I have been at 80 mph without realizing it. I bought that truck with the plan of keeping it a long time. Then we started fifth wheel shopping and I now realize I didn't buy enough truck for what I want. I need a 3500 dually to pull the size camper we are looking at. One problem if you are considering a fifth wheel at some point is that although the tow capacity of your truck may be high enough to pull a 17,000 pound fifth wheel, the truck can't carry that much weight in the bed. A 17,000 camper has a pin weight of somewhere around 2000 plus pounds, and maybe way more depending on the camper. Try to figure out what you are going to get camper wise and buy once. Just my experience.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:47 PM
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One point no-one has mentioned yet is the Jake brake with the 6.7. If you're towing this makes a BIG difference in stopping over a gasser. I tow a 27' boat with my '15 Ram Cummins 2500. Beats the crap coming to a stop over the Yukon XL gasser I used before that. As far as taking off from a stop, not even close. 800 lb/ft of torque is unbelievable.
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So is 1650-1850 in my Cummins ISX.
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Originally Posted by flcatcher1 View Post
One point no-one has mentioned yet is the Jake brake with the 6.7. If you're towing this makes a BIG difference in stopping over a gasser. I tow a 27' boat with my '15 Ram Cummins 2500. Beats the crap coming to a stop over the Yukon XL gasser I used before that. As far as taking off from a stop, not even close. 800 lb/ft of torque is unbelievable.
I meant to put that in my post! Another reason why a diesel truck is a better tow vehicle for heavy loads. Between the electric/hydraulic trailer brakes,, truck brakes and engine brake, I don't worry about stopping. It's comforting.
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Originally Posted by firemedc1560 View Post
I meant to put that in my post! Another reason why a diesel truck is a better tow vehicle for heavy loads. Between the electric/hydraulic trailer brakes,, truck brakes and engine brake, I don't worry about stopping. It's comforting.
I don't see the issue here. Between my gasser F250 brakes and EOH brakes on all 3 axles, I don't worry about stopping either. And if I'm on a long decline where the trailer starts pushing, I can use the brake controller to slow down without affecting the truck.

Yes I rather would be towing with a diesel, but Ford was my truck of personal choice, and I don't trust the 6.7.
If I knew then what I know now, I probably would have settled for a Dodge Cummins
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I don't see the issue here. Between my gasser F250 brakes and EOH brakes on all 3 axles, I don't worry about stopping either. And if I'm on a long decline where the trailer starts pushing, I can use the brake controller to slow down without affecting the truck.

Yes I rather would be towing with a diesel, but Ford was my truck of personal choice, and I don't trust the 6.7.
If I knew then what I know now, I probably would have settled for a Dodge Cummins
It's not really an issue but an extra... the engine brake will save wear and tear on tow vehicle and on the trailer. Not to mention that awesome engine brake sound that makes you grin a little
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Ok quick update, so I shied away from the Ram, not for any particular reason, I think they are still an awesome truck. Recently I starting looking hard at the GMC Denali's and I feel in love with interior. So long story short, I just bought a 2016 GMC Denali 2500 Duramax 4x4, white with black leather, and man do I love it. I have never treated myself to a nice truck, it has 44k on it, so I am hoping to keep it at least 12 years being that I only put about 8k a year on a vehicle. Another chapter closed.....
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Great truck, you will love it.
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Old 06-12-2018, 03:49 PM
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You said you wanted a truck that will tow... And you got it.

Congrats! You just got the most bombproof drivetrain in a pickup.. Duramax with an Allison transmission? No problem
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Originally Posted by berrie View Post
I don't see the issue here. Between my gasser F250 brakes and EOH brakes on all 3 axles, I don't worry about stopping either. And if I'm on a long decline where the trailer starts pushing, I can use the brake controller to slow down without affecting the truck.

Yes I rather would be towing with a diesel, but Ford was my truck of personal choice, and I don't trust the 6.7.
If I knew then what I know now, I probably would have settled for a Dodge Cummins
Exhaust brakes don't heat up the service brakes. If your ever on a long steep grade, you can turn on the exhaust brake and never touch your service brakes. That way in case you need to stop fast you still have 100% braking power.

Without an exhaust brake, you will need to pump the service brakes and ty to not overheat them as you regulate your speed down the grade. If you need to stop fast, you will be hard presses to not overheat your brakes. HUGE difference.
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Congrats! You just got the most bombproof drivetrain in a pickup.. Duramax with an Allison transmission? No problem
Dude, you just posted a thread about your duramax truck being broken down.

I just bought a 2016 GMC Denali 2500 Duramax 4x4, white with black leather,
We would like some pics. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
Dude, you just posted a thread about your duramax truck being broken down.



Find me a 2002 dodge diesel that's still on the road. They are endangered around here and they used to be EVERYWHERE. I've been soooooooooo happy that I no longer have to listen to those loud ass turds left idling at the diesel pumps any more!!! I bethca it's been 6 months since I've seen one.

His turbo broke because it was rusted and stuck. that's not a wear and tear or junk parts break-down. That's a 12-13 y/o truck that sat too much.
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Originally Posted by Back-in-Black View Post
Find me a 2002 dodge diesel that's still on the road. They are endangered around here and they used to be EVERYWHERE. I've been soooooooooo happy that I no longer have to listen to those loud ass turds left idling at the diesel pumps any more!!! I bethca it's been 6 months since I've seen one.

His turbo broke because it was rusted and stuck. that's not a wear and tear or junk parts break-down. That's a 12-13 y/o truck that sat too much.
He said his truck was bombproof while writing on another thread that it's broken. That's some tasty Kool-aid.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
Dude, you just posted a thread about your duramax truck being broken down.



We would like some pics. Congrats.
More like Garrett turbocharger broke down, just like the turbo on your Cummins or Powerstroke doing the same thing....

What can I say? Truck was grandpa driven, carbon built up in the turbo, it happened.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
He said his truck was bombproof while writing on another thread that it's broken. That's some tasty Kool-aid.

Yeah well, ain't no such thing as bomb or bullet proof.
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I am in a similar boat as you but without the planned ret and I drive 25k a year. For what I want in a truck, Laramie is the minimum. I am finding the diesels only a couple k more than gas. For me, I'm thinking diesel more and more.

Diesels do like to be run. The exhaust components work better with heat. I'm just not hearing alot of people complain about diesels, unless they own a Ford.

Many people mention increased maintenance on a diesel. I haven't seen it. At least not in a truck that tows/works. For instance the little Cummins in my motor home calls for oil change every 15k miles or once a year. A gas motor in the same application calls for a 3k mile oil change! The only time I see maintenance cost less on a gas is if it is a grocery getter.
The only noticable additional maintenance is new fuel filter kits every 25k miles, which for me is once a year. I agree, the oil changes are farther apart, modern day coolant and tranny have no change intervals, and other than adding DEF fluid every 5-10k miles you just add fuel and go. And the fuel smells better to boot LOL. Now the 13 qt Vs. 4.5 QT at the oil change hits you in the pocket, but meh..
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
Dude, you just posted a thread about your duramax truck being broken down.



We would like some pics. Congrats.
Would love to show it off, but I have no idea how to post. Thanks for all of the congrats....
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