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Old 02-04-2018, 11:28 AM
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My current 2013 Silverado crew cab has been an excellent truck, but I find myself wanting a heavy duty package again as I came from a Duramax prior to this. They seem to be a bargain for what they’re capable of hauling compared to the same year HD pickups. All the creature comforts of a full size SUV with a heavy duty chassis and drive train seems like a win/win. I know the 6.0 isn’t a torque monster, but it’s geared low with a 3.73 and the 6 speed tranny.

With one kid and another coming soon hopefully, the family is growing. We currently have an Escalade as well, but the shorter Tahoe based body which gets pretty full pretty quick with only one kid and all the critters. This seems like the perfect package to drag the boat plus everyone’s crap anywhere you want to go, so what am I missing? I know it won’t tow like a diesel, but it has to be just as capable as an HD gas I would think?
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:31 AM
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Don't buy one because I've been looking too. Hahaha

Good luck with the search, there isn't much that lines up with it.
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:38 AM
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Sounds like you aren't talking about buying a new 80k? version of the Suburban.

When I had 4 kids and a boat I enjoyed the Suburban, I owned 2 of them.
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:58 AM
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No not new, there are a handful of the 3500s up on the used market, but they’re stupid money. Got a line on one that’s really nice, low miles, all the options, but it’s far away. I don’t want to fly somewhere to be disappointed so doing the leg work now.
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Not sure why you want to be "talked out of it." Go with a 2006 or older, towing on the 2007 and newer sucks. Thanks EPA!
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Not that I want to be talked out of it, just want to see if I’m missing anything. I don’t like how the interiors hold up on the 01-06 trucks, my duramax was an ‘05 and my family have all had that style with lots interior issues. The 07-13 seems to hold up much better from my experience. No doubt the 8.1 drivetrain is stout, but gm no longer supports it, we are having issues with Parts already on the marine side with that engine.
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I'm in the same boat. Need a 3/4 ton with seating for 7. As a family of 5, a truck would work 90% of the time, but when family or friends come to visit, we need that extra seating. Not going to buy, maintain, and insure a separate vehicle for just those occasions, want an all in one solution. I don't see anything out there besides the 2500 Suburban or Excursion. Excursions are too old now, so hunting the Suburban...
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I am in the same boat. I am going to be purchasing a GMC Yukon XL Denali. 2 kids, one on the way (all girls so far so the luggage is insane) and 2 shepherds we are out of room.
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I am in the same boat. I am going to be purchasing a GMC Yukon XL Denali. 2 kids, one on the way (all girls so far so the luggage is insane) and 2 shepherds we are out of room.
Same here with all girls, you're right, it's crazy. I can pack for a weekend in 5 minutes. They need hours. I really want 10k towing, for a little margin.
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Same here with all girls, you're right, it's crazy. I can pack for a weekend in 5 minutes. They need hours. I really want 10k towing, for a little margin.
Hahaha... We are going to Disney world for 3 days...

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Originally Posted by sundancekid View Post
Not that I want to be talked out of it, just want to see if I’m missing anything. I don’t like how the interiors hold up on the 01-06 trucks, my duramax was an ‘05 and my family have all had that style with lots interior issues. The 07-13 seems to hold up much better from my experience. No doubt the 8.1 drivetrain is stout, but gm no longer supports it, we are having issues with Parts already on the marine side with that engine.
To each their own. You can fix an interior, you can't make an 07-13 tow more than 7,500 lbs (ish).
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To each their own. You can fix an interior, you can't make an 07-13 tow more than 7,500 lbs (ish).
How is that? Isn't the towing capacity of a vehicle based mostly on the braking capacity? My Porsche Cayenne tows 7700lbs .
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Don't buy it
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We had an 03 6.0 2500 Burb with the 3.73. It was actually rated to tow 8,600. The 8.1 with the 4:10 gears is rated at 12,000. I towed 11,500 fairly often without issue and we loved that truck. We'd still have it but it sacrificed itself for my family when my wife had a blackout using cruise control on the interstate (everyone was fine).

Not sure about parts but the 8.1 is WAY better for towing. It's 100 extra ft/lbs torque and only .5 mpg more fuel burn.
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Have you considered an expedition? They max out at 9300#
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Originally Posted by Lorne Greene View Post
Have you considered an expedition? They max out at 9300#
No Fords here, rather push a Chevy than drive a Ford! The other issue I hav with the 8.1 platform is being stuck with the 4L80e transmission. Great reliability, had one in my ‘99 Suburban with a 454, but it was always hunting gears since it’s only 4 speeds. I absolutely love the 6 speed in my Silverado. From what I can research, this truck has the HD 6 speed from the gas 2500/3500 trucks, 14-bolt locking rear end, tranny and engine oil coolers, and a 10k pound towing capacity, seems like it would be a beast. My truck came with a 3.42 ratio, this has a 3.73.

I guess if I wear out the platform, can always do a duraburb conversion. There are a handful of those around too, mostly in the low to mid 40s, is it worth exploring that option?
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U look into durabub? Suburban converted with a dmax.
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I get you love chevy but check the excursion diesels if you are open to more options.
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Originally Posted by chrisbtr View Post
I get you love chevy but check the excursion diesels if you are open to more options.
Too old and no way I’d own the 6.0, gotta spend thousands to make it reliable and the 7.3s are just ancient with tons of miles.
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Had and my ex still owns but does not drive a 01 2500 with the 6-liter.

was a reliable tank.

typical ticky tacky American interior.


I would say no just because of the gas mileage... didn't matter if you were going 80 or 25 or driving through a brick wall- you get 12 mpg
I can't think of anyway to justify that unless you pull horse trailers every day.
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