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Old 03-18-2013, 05:06 PM
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Straight up question. I've heard all the bad press, here and elsewhere. Im not a gear head, I like my current truck, I always put rims and tires and leveling kits on, but at the end of the day I just want to get in and go. Current truck is an 08 tundra i am at around 75k miles, nothing but maintenance so far. Will I get that with a 250 in 6.0 or is it really as bad as I read?

Don't want to mess with tuning, removing this, adding that, etc. I can get on board with the DEF fluid, that doesn't scare me. Its the fact that many diesel owners make all sorts of alterations to their vehicle. I understand that some of you like it and enjoy it, that's cool. Its a hobby, I get it. Are you 6.0 owners doing it to make it perform better or as a prevention method?

I would love to buy the black 2012 that someone has listed on here, but I've had three vehicles to my wife's one, and being a smart husband, I planted the "diesel seed" a few months ago as a "necessary work expense". But she is long overdue and we will also be getting a 4runner (my choice) or jeep grand (hers) in the next six months too. Point is, I'm tying to stay under 30k (for the truck). There are numerous loaded up 250s with low miles out there but they all seem to have the dreaded 6.0.

Edumucate me like you guys always do.
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I'm sure there are better deals out there.
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The 6.0 needs certain things done to them or they will fail.They need to have studs installed and the egr system modified.doesn't sound all that bad,but check prices before you buy and get a big surprise.
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So essentially its a one shot deal? You get all this stuff done and then you have yourself a solid dependable ford truck? $1000? $3000? Somewhere in between? Is it done preemptively or do you wait for the shit to hit the fan.

I know there are other options out there, but I like the ford platform for 3/4 tons. In a perfect world I'd buy the Denali but unfortunately in the real world I can't have it. I've owned fords before, I like them. My tundra has been good to me, I just need more balls.

I know cummins makes a mean diesel, dodge is just not an option. Really don't want to go Back further than 08, and want options, which makes ford the best bet for me.
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Have had a few friends here in Maryland that use to own them & the key words "used to"! All 3 of my friends had nothing but problems with them & thousands of dollars later are someone elses problem now. I would be very leary of getting one myself.
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I have a friend who owns one. As was said, they need studs and an EGR delete. I think this makes them fairly reliable. That being said, I think he told me it runs about 5k to get it all done. Must be done preemptively. Also, you better love it because resale is not very good. Don't take this as gospel, it is just what I can remember (I think) that he told me over the course of quite a few beers.

For what it is worth, I think he said some of the new 6.7s are having some costly fuel pump issues..maybe you can try to find the cleanest 7.3 in the land and go with that. Just tell yourself you are driving a classic.
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I'm not going to be able to trick myself. I tried that and almost wound up getting an old Volvo as a knock around car. Then that turned into a new Volvo, then an s4, all while keeping the truck. Finally said the hell with it and just kept the truck.
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If shopping a 6.0 get an oasis report before purchase. It will show any and all warranty work done by ford. Things break but it will tell you if it's more or less a well put together truck. I also went from a tundra to a 6.0 and I know exactly what you mean, tundra was good but doesn't hold a candle to this truck.

You don't NEED studs if you aren't going to tune, there are plenty of trucks on the road with stock head bolts and stock egr and oil coolers. 80k on original everything with no problems and no work done under warranty(knock on wood). I did a straight pipe, 40hp FICM tune and will be deleting the egr. Truck has plenty of power as it sits and pulls 8k with cruise control on without downshifting hardly ever I f-ing love it.
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I'm not scared of the 6.0. Sure they have their quirks but they are well documented so its not like they are a mystery. Once the egr is deleted, the FICM remanned, and put some injectors in them they are pretty reliable. Honestly you can get a lot better deal on them than a cummins or duramax on account of it too.
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If I thought I could trick myself I would buy this:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3650777608.html
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Sure there were plenty of problems with them and thousands of dollars spent fixing them, a lot of the headaches came from mechanics not knowing how to work on them and dumping parts and money into them hoping to find the problem. And from running hot tunes(edge bully dog etc). There are flaws with the head bolts, oil cooler, FICM, and egr cooler. Once you get past that stuff, which the 6.0 issues are well documented and understood at this point, it's a solid truck.
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Originally Posted by Patton222 View Post
If shopping a 6.0 get an oasis report before purchase. It will show any and all warranty work done by ford. Things break but it will tell you if it's more or less a well put together truck. I also went from a tundra to a 6.0 and I know exactly what you mean, tundra was good but doesn't hold a candle to this truck.

You don't NEED studs if you aren't going to tune, there are plenty of trucks on the road with stock head bolts and stock egr and oil coolers. 80k on original everything with no problems and no work done under warranty(knock on wood). I did a straight pipe, 40hp FICM tune and will be deleting the egr. Truck has plenty of power as it sits and pulls 8k with cruise control on without downshifting hardly ever I f-ing love it.
I want to hear more posts like this! Seriously though, I can already tell you know more than me about trucks. I just want my truck to start every time, with no more than a reasonable amount of maintenance and repairs. I'm a DIYer on most everything except my vehicles. I'm ok with doing some mods, but feel a lot better if its going to be a one time expense (what was your expense by the way?) than a constant battle. I'm self employed and cannot under any circumstances be without a reliable vehicle for work.
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If it has never been tuned and never will be then you can forego the studs. Do the EGR delete and check/possibly replace the injectors and you will have a very good truck. For $30K you can possibly get into a low optioned 2008 with the 6.4L and newer interior as well.

TCWAKEFIELD, the 6.7L fuel pump issues are mostly isolated to the first year 2011 models and obviously replaced under warranty, so far the 6.7L has been the most amazing truck that Ford has ever made and the Chevy and Dodge offerings don't hold a candle to it.
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Which expense are you referring to..? And to answer your original question I personally would buy one for the right price. Being a 6.0 the resale isn't the greatest but on the flip side it puts you in a much better position to negotiate. I would not hesitate to buy another and I am toying with the idea because I bought a supercab long bed and I want a crew cab. But at the time it was such a good price I couldn't pass it up.

And one more thing and this goes for any diesel, when you test drive see if you can secure a scanning device of some sort. There are a few to choose from I went with an edge insight CTS. It plugs into the OB port(where ford will plug into to diagnose problems) and you will be able to read temperatures and voltages from a lot of the trucks systems and help you determine the over all health of the truck. A clean oasis and all temps and volts where they should be and you are pretty well covered. I am sure I am forgetting some stuff but that covers the basics.
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The only thing that would really make me walk is if it had a programmer on it. The 6.0 is not really bad and is the best Ford diesel on fuel mileage, so if the price is better than right just do your best CSI work and double check for performance upgrades, that is what has caused so many headaches.
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You better get a he'll of a deal

Resale sucks bad
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Patton, I'm talking about the cost of the EGR, heads, And FICM. Basically what would my upfront cost be to make it bulletproof? Or assuming I'm not tuning it, skip the heads.

There's an 07 w under 40k miles king ranch listed under 30. Original owner. Haven't asked him about programmer yet as I'm in no real rush. I never like to be on the spot when I make a big purchase. Do the research first then wait for the right deal.

I just realized I stated 08 or newer before, but with the low mileage and single owner I had to take a closer look at this one. And its local.

As for resale, assuming as as the seller I have already made the preventative changes won't that help me down the line selling? Or to flip that, if I start looking hard and find one where the mods have been made, shouldn't that seller be able to ask more (and expect it)?
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I have read about reputable shops doing full bulletproofs for 3500-4000 and that includes: full coolant flush, new oil cooler, egr delete, head studs, inspecting heads, oem head gaskets. Not sure what egr delete costs alone, a friend of mine plugs the original cooler and will be doing it for me. They call it a stealth delete so inspectors won't be able to tell it has been done and its much cheaper than buying a kit. And my FICM with the 40hp tune(only really added 1 mpg and better throttle response/less turbo lag) was $525.
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Regarding your resale question, you have to deal with public perception. So you make all the necessary reliabilty mods. Your target audience would have to be the handful of buyers who understand that the motor is now ok. How many people is that vs. the number of people who will ask their buddies "whadda ya think?" Drinking buddy says "Its got a Sick-O, man. Run, don't walk away." You can buy one at a good price and sink a few grand in it and be ok. When you go to sell, the stigma is still there.

My personal opinion is if you can turn wrenches and make the reliability mods yourself, I would consider it. That way you a getting a value up front. Buy one at a good price and sink a few thousand into it right away then also face an uphill battle a few years from now when you go to sell? Doesn't sound like much of a value to me anymore.
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I had a 2006 F 350 bought brand new. Got 130,000 trouble free miles then the crap hit the fan with this truck. Spent 13k on repairs in one year and sold it for peanuts. I personally would not even consider owning a Ford with the 6.0. If you buy one good luck!

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