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Old 04-04-2011, 03:36 PM
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I was towing my 28ft Toy Hauler with my new titan ..weighs about 8500-9500 I guess loaded. I have WD hitch and it handles the load suspension wise.. but when I took it on the highway I couldn't get over 60 mph without getting pushed left right and it felt like the front end was "floating" . Power wasn't all that good in small hills either. Anyone else towing heavy with these? I feel bad for the truck like the trans and axles are going to just explode! LOL .. Love the truck other then that.. towing on smaller roads are good.
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Pulled my 27 Contender with a 2006 Crew Cab 4x4 for a year. Had no problem accelerating up to about 45mph- not as much pep after that. I got rid of it when I had to slam on the brakes at an intersection.
Sounds like you have too much tongue weight as mine rode well up to about 65mph.
When I traded it in, my ABS light or Diff Slip light came on and would not go off- don't know if it was in relation to the heavy load or the fact that the truck had 95k miles on it.
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Theres a light that comes on about 30 mins town driving with no trailer.. it says B-lsd. What is that? It comes and goes. I think i have to much tongue weight also. No way of adjusting it on this trailer though. I noticed the axles are set to far back.
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I tow my 25' boat fully loaded 8000-9000lbs with a 06' Armada which is the same frame as the titan just built into an suv. It tows it now problem and stops it no problem. I just no it's back there over every little bump. As far as sway I only get that when a tractor trailer passes me and then I get nervous. I tow at 65mph no problem. I did however just by a ram 3500 and don't feel the boat at all. Like mentioned I would check tongue weight.

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Definately a tounge weight issue. I tow a 9,000# rig loaded with about 500# tounge weight. Before getting it right it was not very good. Now much better.

Also, the stock BFG tires suck.

Braking is not the trucks strong point.

Don't be afraid to drop down a gear going up hill. With over a 6000 RPM red line 4500 won't hurt. The imports (at least the nissans) seem to have the power band in the upper RPM range and my engine and tranny run much cooler with a manual shift when needed.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:23 PM
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Okay thanks guys.. Thought that was the problem.. Im not sure if sway bars would help.. but that means getting a whole new hitch setup.. I experimented with the manual shift on the shifter it really helps from a stop light..but i feel like the tranz will break .. going from a Superduty Diesel I have many doubts.
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I had an 04 for 4 years and think the B-LSD is a light for the limited slip diff. I also went thru 3 different rear differentials in 4 years towing about 5K. The diffs were changed in 05 and supposed to fix the problem but I kept blowing them.
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The Titan runs out of steam unless you drive it really hard with your toes in the fan. Like other smaller sized trucks they make great HP but lack any torque. The only way to over come this is keep it reving. Properly set up my Titan pulled my 21B Mako without being tossed around but it sure did suck back the fuel. I couldn't imagine pulling anything more than 5000 pounds with one.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kqmx586 View Post
I was towing my 28ft Toy Hauler with my new titan ..weighs about 8500-9500 I guess loaded. I have WD hitch and it handles the load suspension wise.. but when I took it on the highway I couldn't get over 60 mph without getting pushed left right and it felt like the front end was "floating" . Power wasn't all that good in small hills either.
Man that is a awful big load for the Dana 44 rear axle to handle. You may want to return to a Super Duty or at least a F150 with the heavy duty suspension package. I have never understood why Nissan picked such a small rear axle for a full sized truck.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:10 PM
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I had been wondering what is a Titan considered? 1/2 ton , 3/8 ton ?
That deffinately sounds like a weight distribution issue, when a tandem axle trailer is'nt at it's "ride level" it'll do some crazy things.
Might wanna raise the ball up, flip your drop down.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:32 PM
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Too much load for the truck. The braking is your biggest issue. I tow 7000# and that seems to me like the limit in terms of stability. It is a shorter wheelbase truck and that makes a big difference with sway. 60mph is my limit anyway. I want to be able to aleast try to stop if something bad happens in front of me.

If I was you I would get some bigger brakes up front if you have to two that much. I have the Stillen big brake kit and like it alot.

Good Luck, you may need it.
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Originally Posted by kqmx586 View Post
....... I think i have to much tongue weight also. No way of adjusting it on this trailer though. I noticed the axles are set to far back.
There has to be a way to adjust the tongue weight. I moved the axles on mine to adjust the tongue weight.

Also, make sure it is level when attached to the tow vehicle. You may need to buy a different ball mount.
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Originally Posted by kqmx586 View Post
Theres a light that comes on about 30 mins town driving with no trailer.. it says B-lsd. What is that?
Look in the owners manual. Or call a dealer. Or read this:

http://www.justanswer.com/nissan/3l5...an-caused.html
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I have a trailer brake in the truck.. stops fine.. But the wheels are in a wheel well on the RV and no way to move them forward.. Its not like a boat trailer.
Never getting a superduty diesel again .. Not that there bad I friggen loved that truck.. there just like driving a garbage truck around everyday in the small beach community. Not fun!
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Originally Posted by rwidman View Post
There has to be a way to adjust the tongue weight. I moved the axles on mine to adjust the tongue weight.

Also, make sure it is level when attached to the tow vehicle. You may need to buy a different ball mount.
As I agree with rwidman I never understood why people push their trucks so hard and expect such demanding results, after all its a 1/2 ton truck. The Mfg's will publish fancy booklets and post "push the envelope results" to sell their product. Yes, you probably can make it a bit safer and more comfortable to tow with but the bottom line is your load demands more of a truck to tow it with. Im just saying, it is a large load and a 3/4 ton is probably in need. JMO.
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Originally Posted by jpaul72 View Post
As I agree with rwidman I never understood why people push their trucks so hard and expect such demanding results, after all its a 1/2 ton truck. The Mfg's will publish fancy booklets and post "push the envelope results" to sell their product. Yes, you probably can make it a bit safer and more comfortable to tow with but the bottom line is your load demands more of a truck to tow it with. Im just saying, it is a large load and a 3/4 ton is probably in need. JMO.
So do they overrate 1/2 tons but not 3/4 tons?
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Originally Posted by Mist-Rest View Post
The Titan runs out of steam unless you drive it really hard with your toes in the fan. Like other smaller sized trucks they make great HP but lack any torque. The only way to over come this is keep it reving. Properly set up my Titan pulled my 21B Mako without being tossed around but it sure did suck back the fuel. I couldn't imagine pulling anything more than 5000 pounds with one.
I haven't experienced either of these issues. I'm probably around 5500 or more loaded + trailer. I agree on the fuel mileage though but I tow 65 mph +/-. I have the tow package, and never tow in 5th gear and keep the tow mode button engaged at all time. Actually I think it tows my boat extremly well and I never feel like things are getting squirly. More than adequate power and torque.

Having said that, if I had the kind of load the OP is talking about, I would be happier towing it with a 3/4 ton truck if I had to make any kind of longer haul...more than a few miles. Longer wheel base, more power, more torque, heavier frame, just so many advantages.

Mine's an 05 with 88,0000 miles....
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So do they overrate 1/2 tons but not 3/4 tons?
Remember, the tow rating is with just the driver and fuel. No passengers and no cargo.

Determining a tow rating is not an exact science. It's a combination of what loads the components can handle over a period of time, the ability of the vehicle to handle the load safely, and pressure from the sales department. Towing 7,100 lb with a 7,000 lb tow rating doesn't mean the truck will break down or wreck, towing 6,900 lb with a 7,000 lb rating doesn't mean it won't break down or wreck.

Sales wants it to be high, engineering and warranty would rather see it low.
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Remember, the tow rating is with just the driver and fuel. No passengers and no cargo.

Determining a tow rating is not an exact science. It's a combination of what loads the components can handle over a period of time, the ability of the vehicle to handle the load safely, and pressure from the sales department. Towing 7,100 lb with a 7,000 lb tow rating doesn't mean the truck will break down or wreck, towing 6,900 lb with a 7,000 lb rating doesn't mean it won't break down or wreck.

Sales wants it to be high, engineering and warranty would rather see it low.

Just saying...
The constant theme on THT is 1/2 tons cannot tow anywhere near their rated capacity, mention it in a thread and everyone will start saying illegal, putting other drivers lives in danger... blah blah blah, but mention towing at capacity with a 3/4 or 1 ton and no one says a thing.
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Originally Posted by kqmx586 View Post
I have a trailer brake in the truck.. stops fine.. But the wheels are in a wheel well on the RV and no way to move them forward.. Its not like a boat trailer.
OK. I thought it was a boat trailer. Can you move stuff around in the RV?

RVs usually have a 10% tongue weight so your trailer may be designed for that. Boat trailers are usually morre in the 5% -7% range.

You may just have too much trailer for the truck. That happens sometimes.
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