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Old 02-14-2010, 09:45 AM
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Is there a gas engine truck that would handle towing 12,000 pound boat & trailer about 6 times per year with most of the trips being ~300 miles one way. Trailer is tri-axle aluminum with brakes on two of the axles. I keep the boat in a dry stack and will fish from there most of the time but like to head down to OBX to fish & family vacation.
I am looking for a used truck because it will just sit in the driveway most of the time, I put less then 5000 miles per year on my 5.4 Expedition and don’t want a new truck just sitting there depreciating. My reluctance toward a diesel is cost of maintenance & service and whether having it being only used on weekends creating additional problems. If I'm crazy thinking that I can tow 12,000 with a gas p/u better to hear it now before I make a purchase.
Thanks for your insight
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I have an 08, and really like it..Will tow what you need...They are thirsty, but quiet.. They have been around for awhile, so there should be used ones around...I had an 04 Flareside F150, it got right around 15 mpg average over the 4 yrs I had it.. The V10 has been getting right around 13.. That is not towing mpg...Towing will probly be 8-9mpg...Reliable engines, they had plug probems, up until a few yrs ago..
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any gas 2500 should work. The towing capacity is slightly increased if you have gas over diesel because the gas motor weighs less. It might not always like it, but the gas would be fine to tow with. The non diesel 2500's are fairly easy to find and don't cost and arm and a leg. It will also provide you with a truck to haul stuff, from trash to home improvement items. Having an extra vehicle is also nice if you have a primary vehicle go into the shop for something.
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the f350 or f250 with the v10 will haul it no problem
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find a BIG CI motor and get 4.10 gears in a 3/4 or 1 ton.....even then you are at the limits of the truck but should handle it......fuel burn will SUCK!

I too was faced with a similar issue several years ago but I tow every weekend.....15,000 loaded. Looked for a used dually but found a deal on a new 2007 F350 (in 2006) that I couldn't pass up. 3.5 year old truck with 10,000 miles........just sold the boat and don't want to sell the truck but really don't need it anymore.
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Originally Posted by nedarb2 View Post
the f350 or f250 with the v10 will haul it no problem
The V10 will do it but you'll know it's back there, especially at the gas pump.
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Chevy or GMC HD 2500 3/4 ton with 8.1 motor would haul that easy.
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Hey guys - thanks for the replies, I am a Ford guy all the way back to my 69 428 SCJ Mustang in my youth, boy wish I kept that car. Did not know that GM had the 8.1 engine. Been doing a little research and seems that folks are happy with the Ford V10, not finding much on the GM 8.1 yet. This is a tough dilemma knowing that 12,000 pounds is a lot to tow, but tow so few times that it is challenging to justify diesel and the expense of ownership.
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I had the same problem a while back towing a 34 Venture. I went to the local Ford truck rental center and rented a very nice newer model F-250 4x4 Diesel. Towed like a champ!! I cost me just over $100. a day and was money well spent. I later bought a 2003 Ford Excursion V-10 4x4 and she tows like a beast! Good luck. The rental worked well for me at the time. Newer truck and zero problems for me! Good luck!
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Originally Posted by flyboy911 View Post
I had the same problem a while back towing a 34 Venture. I went to the local Ford truck rental center and rented a very nice newer model F-250 4x4 Diesel. Towed like a champ!! I cost me just over $100. a day and was money well spent. I later bought a 2003 Ford Excursion V-10 4x4 and she tows like a beast! Good luck. The rental worked well for me at the time. Newer truck and zero problems for me! Good luck!
For six trips a year, renting vs. owning would seem to be a good plan once you factor in initial cost, depreciation, maintenance, insurance, and tag/title fees (and possibly personal property taxes).
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I need to investigate renting from my local Ford dealer, but my 03 Expedition is getting to a point that replacing it is justified, just trying to figure with what. I have a ski boat and crabing/hunting boat to tow too.
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Originally Posted by Regulator29 View Post
I need to investigate renting from my local Ford dealer, but my 03 Expedition is getting to a point that replacing it is justified, just trying to figure with what. I have a ski boat and crabing/hunting boat to tow too.
The big, high powered truck can be a PIA to drive around town, park, etc., as well as be a fuel hog. Just keep that in mind.
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Originally Posted by rwidman View Post
The big, high powered truck can be a PIA to drive around town, park, etc., as well as be a fuel hog. Just keep that in mind.
It is just a tow vehicle, much prefer to drive my M45 around town
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I have a '99 E350 v-10 that turned 150K yesterday. No issues with it. It is a 15 passenger model and I keep two of the seats in the garage except to transport the youth football team to weigh in once a year. I am constantly amazed at the versatility of this vehicle. From moving furniture, to passengers, to a lawn tractor. Just yank the seats and you have a one ton panel van. 13 MPG combined, 15 MPG on a long highway trip, 8 towing the Shamrock as shown in the picture. I have one shallow ramp that I have to get the back tires in the water to float the boat. no problem just walk to the back of the van open the doors and unhook. I am a very happy with this vehicle.
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I pull my 2870 Pursuit WA on a 13,500lb tri axle. Haven't had it weighed loaded but it is probably approaching 12K.

I have '07 Chevy 2500HD Vortec 6.0 pulls it with no problems. The new 6L90E 6 speed transmissions are awesome, geared perfectly for towing.
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Used big block dualies are a bargain because of the gas prices today. Gas motors don't tow like diesels but if you have 4.10 or 4.56 gears it'll get the job done. Dualies give you more braking power, tongue capacity and sway protection. When not in use for extended periods park it on plastic to stop ground moisture from condensing on the underside and rusting everything.
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Originally Posted by colliedog View Post
I have a '99 E350 v-10 that turned 150K yesterday. No issues with it. It is a 15 passenger model and I keep two of the seats in the garage except to transport the youth football team to weigh in once a year. I am constantly amazed at the versatility of this vehicle. From moving furniture, to passengers, to a lawn tractor. Just yank the seats and you have a one ton panel van. 13 MPG combined, 15 MPG on a long highway trip, 8 towing the Shamrock as shown in the picture. I have one shallow ramp that I have to get the back tires in the water to float the boat. no problem just walk to the back of the van open the doors and unhook. I am a very happy with this vehicle.
Guessing your shamrock & trailer is at least 12,000 pounds, I would be happy with 8 mpg. I only got 7-8 mpg towing my 23 Reg with my 5.4 Expedition. The guy that hauled my boat from FL to DE only got 9-10 mpg with an 09 3500 Ram diesel. What gear ratio are you running in the rear axle?

BTW nice Shamrock, got to like the keel in the rough stuff and running inlets. Friend of mine has a Grandslam and boy does that boat catch tunas, well the captain knows his stuff too.
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Originally Posted by tunedportcj5 View Post
I pull my 2870 Pursuit WA on a 13,500lb tri axle. Haven't had it weighed loaded but it is probably approaching 12K.

I have '07 Chevy 2500HD Vortec 6.0 pulls it with no problems. The new 6L90E 6 speed transmissions are awesome, geared perfectly for towing.
Friend of mine has a GMC 250 with the 6.0 HO vortex, sure he will let me try it out and see how well it pulls my rig, my concern is that I think the truck is rated to about 10,900 pounds and if there is any insurance concerns?
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any 3/4 ton should be fine

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