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Old 10-12-2009, 02:25 PM
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I'll toss in another thought as well...I've used ramps from Indian Pass and Cape San Blas, FL to Ocean Isle, NC, to the steep-banked Lake Cherokee, TN in February and have never needed 4-wheel drive...my 5.4 F150 is 2-wheel drive and gets 19.5 mpg on hwy and about half that while towing...my point is, if you just don't NEED 4-wheel drive, why pay for it at the dealer on purchase and the pump everytime ya fill 'er up
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reelapeelin View Post
I'll toss in another thought as well...I've used ramps from Indian Pass and Cape San Blas, FL to Ocean Isle, NC, to the steep-banked Lake Cherokee, TN in February and have never needed 4-wheel drive...my 5.4 F150 is 2-wheel drive and gets 19.5 mpg on hwy and about half that while towing...my point is, if you just don't NEED 4-wheel drive, why pay for it at the dealer on purchase and the pump everytime ya fill 'er up

For the one time you will need it

Spend a Saturday afternoon at Grill's Restaurant overlooking the public ramp at Port Canaveral. There will be a dozen boaters (along with a dozens boater's wives) wishing they had 4wd.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:30 AM
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I've needed the 4x4 many times while towing up the steep cold ramps from Dec thru Feb.... Rear wheels sitting on ice, and the steep ramp has a light coating of ice as well.

I struggling with this delima right now as I look to purchase a 2001 to 2003 Excursion with a 7.3 PowerStroke, people requesting a higher premium for a 4x4, that you know has seen a lot of towing. While there are many Excursions with the 7.3 P.S., that are cheap and only used to transport the family on long vacations and sporting events , but do not have 4-wheel drive.

I am looking to move up to (in addition to my current boat) a much larger boat (and my boys take up a lot more room). Getting something with a little better mileage and even a slightly larger towing capacity is attractive.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:57 AM
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I had a 2000 5.4 4x4 and it went 140,000 trouble free miles. Just routine maintenance including transmission fluid changes every 30k miles and spark plugs. Also, that truck would tow anything. We towed a 31 Contender from Baton Rouge to Orange Beach, AL and back without any problems. It towed it fine, but stopping it was a bit of a challenge

I now have a 2005 F150 5.4 and it has been great. Not the fastest thing off of the line, but it tows well. I pull a 26 Twin Vee quite a bit and truck tows it with ease.
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Old 10-16-2009, 07:26 AM
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I am late in this game and I see you bought a very nice Chevy with the 5.3.

I sold a 2001 F150 4x2 with the 3.73 gears and limited slip and the 5.4 -- not a single day in the shop and routine maintenance only. I towed, hunted and fished that 2001 truck hard and gave her some good scrapes along the way. Plus, she was a daily city driver for work. She is now in the employ of a friend that works at our hunting ranch.

I just bought a 2010 F150 4x4 Platinum with the 5.4. I also looked hard at the Dodge, Chevy and Toy. Ford came in 1st, then Chevy, with Dodge and Toy in a tie. For the Toy, I liked that 5.7 engine and the large interior but didn't see it holding up long term the way I abuse trucks. The Dodge is a steal and I dig the Hemi but build quaility was a concern as was the size of the back seating area -- and coil springs? The Chevy had great engine choices and is an off road beast in 4x4. But I found the overall engineering and build quality lacking; not bad at all, just not as good as Ford. The Chevy engines need a re-tooling if you ask me to get most torque and HP where you need it. After deciding on the Ford, I nearly changed my mind back to the Chevy Offroad 4x4. And I admit GM getting owned by the unions and gov't didn't help.

The Ford was simply a better engineered product overall. Better brakes, better frame, better towing "system," better safety features and an incredible interior with the Synch taking it over the top. Yes, the 5.4 was a bit of a downside but the new 6 speed tranny gives it the goose when and where she needs it -- plus, my racing days was way over. And the 5.4 is a very reliable engine that can real world use. The tipping point was probably a two-day hunting trip thru incredible mud and slop in a friend's 2006 4x4 F150 that performed very very well in the back country.

It was a blast doing the analysis -- looking at and comparing trucks is just a bunch of fun. I was sort of sad to finally make the choice.
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Old 11-20-2009, 05:01 PM
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November 2008 bought a 2007 FORD EXPEDITION XLT with 10k miles plus the 100k mile powertrain warranty included for $19k.

This has the newer 6 spd tranny and it pulls like a truck, but drives and handles like a LINCOLN.

If you have not driven a 2007 or newer 5.4, I suggest you do.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:41 PM
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we have 3 5.4L f150s at my house, all bought new and all of them have at least 110K with the highest being 166K, they have performed flawlessly and have been a pleasure and being a ford man it makes owning a ford even more enjoyable with almost zero maintance. oil tires and such and thats it. i would highly recommend it...good luck
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:18 AM
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The 5.4 is an okay engine for an F150 or Expedition, not in the Super Duty. The engine just does'nt have the power to pull anything. I took one off the lot to pull my boat one night and almost turned around after the first hill. Not only was it gutless it sucked down the fuel like there was a hole in the tank. You may be alright because you are in Fla. but up here in the NE you could'nt give me a SD with a 5.4. Some of the problems we come across in the shop are: spitting out plugs/ siezed plugs, lots of coil problems, broken manifold bolts and now we are seeing some with oil pressure issues. I personaly would buy a V10 over the 5.4 but they arent much better, at least you would'nt think you left the e-brake on when you start pulling the boat.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:12 AM
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Owned a two wheel drive 5.4L 2000 and put 120K without any engine probs. There was a recall at some point for the cruise control but everything else I had done to the truck was pretty minor. Pulled a 25' boat without a problem and have even pulled a 28' on more than one occasion for a short distance and had no issue getting up the ramp. I can't imagine you'll haven any trouble towing your boat for the short haul. No experience towing anything as long as 400 mi but I know you'll be stopping a lot for gas. Overall I was pretty happy with the truck but am not a fan of the Ford styling these days and couldn't get myself to purchase another one. There still the best selling truck though and there's got to be a reason for it.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:40 AM
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5.4 is a good motor but thirsty. My ram hemi was way more fuel efficient and faster as far as passing on the highway but the 5.4 has more power down low and doesnt downshift nearly as much. I use the cruise control up most hills without downshifting while in over drive. The ram would not do that. They both have their pros and cons.

I like the 5.4 better for towing
I like the 5.7 better without the boat

With the boat in my sig over a full tank of fuel
5.7 Hemi.........12 mpg
5.4 ...............10 mpg
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:31 PM
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I sell Ford parts so I see it all. The newer 5.4 is a fine engine and rarely has issues. The older 5.4s did have problems with plugs blowing out however I have a fleet customer with a 98 F150 that has a 5.4 that has over 600,000 miles on it. It has never been into and has yet to blow out a plug. We have a 99 E350 that has over 300k on it also. If you are looking at a 250-350 series truck you would be better served by the 6.8 V10 that gets about the same fuel millage in that size truck and pulls much better.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:49 PM
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have had two. a 2004 and a 2006 5.4 w/3.73, 2 wd crew cab.

with the 3.73 tow capacity is nearly 10k lbs, so you would be looking at a boat/trailer weight of about 75 percent of that.

still have the 2006. have had no problems with either. tows a heavy 23 Parker with ease. gets 17-19 mpg hwy, and 11 or so mpg towing on the flat FL interstates.

good luck on your search.

btw have you heard of the Dodge death wobble......i just heard about it.....not sure if it applies to their trucks. nothing against Dodge.......just something to look into.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bms1939 View Post
The 5.4 is an okay engine for an F150 or Expedition, not in the Super Duty. The engine just does'nt have the power to pull anything. I took one off the lot to pull my boat one night and almost turned around after the first hill. Not only was it gutless it sucked down the fuel like there was a hole in the tank. You may be alright because you are in Fla. but up here in the NE you could'nt give me a SD with a 5.4. Some of the problems we come across in the shop are: spitting out plugs/ siezed plugs, lots of coil problems, broken manifold bolts and now we are seeing some with oil pressure issues. I personaly would buy a V10 over the 5.4 but they arent much better, at least you would'nt think you left the e-brake on when you start pulling the boat.
I've got the broken manifold bolt issue, noticable when the motor is cold but fine when hot. What type of job to repair this?
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Originally Posted by TheShortAnswer View Post
have had two. a 2004 and a 2006 5.4 w/3.73, 2 wd crew cab.

with the 3.73 tow capacity is nearly 10k lbs, so you would be looking at a boat/trailer weight of about 75 percent of that.

still have the 2006. have had no problems with either. tows a heavy 23 Parker with ease. gets 17-19 mpg hwy, and 11 or so mpg towing on the flat FL interstates.

good luck on your search.

btw have you heard of the Dodge death wobble......i just heard about it.....not sure if it applies to their trucks. nothing against Dodge.......just something to look into.
F-150's are good trucks but no way would I be caught dead towing 7500 lbs with one for a significant distance and no way are you are getting 11 mpg with 5000 lbs let alone 7500. Thats the job of a 3/4 ton.

My 08 is rated for about 8000 lbs (cant remember exactly). How is yours rated for 10k? Do you have the max tow package??
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In Febuary 09 I purchased a new, leftover, 2008 F-250 SD, XLT 4X4 Four Door with the 5.4. I am utterly and completely disappointed with it marked lack of "balls". At first I just thought it was me going from a 7.4 L / 454 cid K2500 Chevrolet to a smaller engine and it would be something I would get used to - I haven't!!

The truck downshifts repeatedly on very minor hills and I frequently have to floor it to get it up to 70 mph to merge onto the freeway.

I went into the dealership to buy a new F-250 PSD but talked myself in to the gas truck due to the price tag (almost half the price of the PSD) - my mistake.

I currently pull a Carolina Skiff 218 DLV with T-Top and 115 Yamaha - the truck pulls it "okay" but it probably doesn't weigh 4,500 lbs with the tandem axle E-Z Loader Trailer. I will soon be moving up to a 23' Maycraft Pilothouse and am concerned about the trucks ability to pull it satisfactorily and the Maycraft is a "light boat" - good thing I'm not shopping for a Parker PH - I seriously doubt the truck as the stones to pull one.

The truck now has 8000 miles and the "Check Engine" light came on this Monday for the 4th time since new - 1st Time: O2 sensor, 2 & 3rd Time: Emission control problems associated with the gas tank vent, I haven't got it in to see what's wrong with it now!!

Bottom line - I have no experience with a 5.4 in a F-150 but my experience with it in a F-250 has been dismal at best - to be honest, I don't know why Ford offers that small a motor in that large a truck.

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Old 11-23-2009, 04:36 PM
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I have a 5.4 Triton in my 1997 Expedition. Just over 300,000 miles. Replaced a transmission at 180,000 but nothing major done to the engine. When kept on a regular maintenance program I would think that most engines manufactured today will give many years of service.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:02 PM
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I had a 1997 5.4 in a van and I also have a 2004 in a 2 x 4 f350. I tow a 23' Regulator and I havent had any problems. It pulls the boat just fine and I've taken it to Florida from NJ.
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:46 AM
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How much did the transmission replacement cost you??
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:56 AM
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I have a new '09 F150 but with the max trailer tow package. Rated for 11,300lbs. 2wd, lariat, crewcab, 5.5' bed. 6spd auto with 3.73ls rear. Just towed my Proline Express hardtop (a lot of windage) from Mich to the keys. The boat with 1/4fuel scales 7000lbs. Great tow vehicle. Much better tow platform than the Expedition I had with the same powertrain. Because of the long wheelbase which of course is a liability around town. The 6spd is nice and on the stretches with no headwind or grade, would tow the proline at 70mph, 2000rpm in 6th gear. Just hit the tow/haul button and drive on. Trans temp never moved.
The 5.4 3valve is a good step up from the 2valve version, and the 6spd is a further powertrain enhancement. My colleagues still working at Ford confirm the warranty performance continues to improve from already good levels. As with most modern gas engines, 200,000 miles is certainly attainable with just fluid changes at factory intervals.
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Originally Posted by Tawn View Post
In Febuary 09 I purchased a new, leftover, 2008 F-250 SD, XLT 4X4 Four Door with the 5.4. I am utterly and completely disappointed with it marked lack of "balls". At first I just thought it was me going from a 7.4 L / 454 cid K2500 Chevrolet to a smaller engine and it would be something I would get used to - I haven't!!

The truck downshifts repeatedly on very minor hills and I frequently have to floor it to get it up to 70 mph to merge onto the freeway.

I went into the dealership to buy a new F-250 PSD but talked myself in to the gas truck due to the price tag (almost half the price of the PSD) - my mistake.

I currently pull a Carolina Skiff 218 DLV with T-Top and 115 Yamaha - the truck pulls it "okay" but it probably doesn't weigh 4,500 lbs with the tandem axle E-Z Loader Trailer. I will soon be moving up to a 23' Maycraft Pilothouse and am concerned about the trucks ability to pull it satisfactorily and the Maycraft is a "light boat" - good thing I'm not shopping for a Parker PH - I seriously doubt the truck as the stones to pull one.

The truck now has 8000 miles and the "Check Engine" light came on this Monday for the 4th time since new - 1st Time: O2 sensor, 2 & 3rd Time: Emission control problems associated with the gas tank vent, I haven't got it in to see what's wrong with it now!!

Bottom line - I have no experience with a 5.4 in a F-150 but my experience with it in a F-250 has been dismal at best - to be honest, I don't know why Ford offers that small a motor in that large a truck.

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Should have done some research before dropping the coin. Did you not tow with it on the test drive or even take a freeway test drive?
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