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Old 09-14-2009, 02:57 PM
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To the original poster:

What is the maximum capacity of your trailer?
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickg View Post
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What is the maximum capacity of your trailer?
10,000 pounds.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by v70cat View Post
I will try and answer all of the questions and comments here:

1) I will not be doing a lot of long distance towing but want to get something that can handle it. That said I want to use the truck or Suv for non towing driving. I remember being in a 250 pickup and it rode real hard I don't want that even if it is a better tow truck. My interest in the Tundra is that it seems to have better brakes and suspension than a comparable Ford or GM 150.

2) Diesel would be my first choice for long distance towing but I don't think the used ones have the technology of the new ones. I might consider a Toreag V10. I thought that older Ford & GM Diesel were not that great? I also thought that the Cummins is a strong engine but is loud.

Out of all the 250 / 2500 trucks out there, the GMC and Chevys ride the best. The Fords and the Dodges ride pretty rough which is not to say that the GM ones ride like cadillacs either... they are just a little better than the other 2. My current 2500HD dmax/ allison is my first ever 2500 and my first ever diesel. Bought it new back in '02 and it does ride rougher than my previous 1500s but in some ways the ride is actually better.

Also, stay away from the pre-2004 Duramax models as they have injector problems but anything from 2004 -2007 in the Dmax are great trucks, have awesome power stock and get good mpg. Be careful of 2007.5 trucks. They have the new emissions garbage which isn't all horrible but may kill some mpgs. After 207,000 miles on my 2002 I'm still getting 20-21 mpg hwy (cruise set on 77 mph) and 16-18 mpg city (not towing). Except for the injector thing it has been an awesome truck and I'd buy another in a heartbeat (and probably will when i wear this one out). The newer ones (2006-2007)are so quiet, its truely hard to tell they're diesel when I'm pumping fuel and they pull up to the pumps. I had the same problem as you as far as noise goes and that's one of the buggest reasons I bought my Dmax... at the time it was by FAR, the quietest diesel out there.
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Originally Posted by v70cat View Post
10,000 +/- weight of the boat and trailer. The Rig is 27 Foot World Cat.
120K miles 08' dodge 2500 spent 0 days in the shop, love the 6 speed trans and std. exhaust brake. i owned a 04 chevy duramax, which i don't want to get into a brand bashing contest but i had some serious issues which i could elaborate on via PM. i have noticed no ride difference between the Chevy and dodge.
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i notice you have a mega cab dodge too, which is a HUGE difference over the standard crew cab dodge. 89k towing miles on my 06 duramax with not one problem to date. I too will not get into a debate over which is better. However there are big differences in the trucks, and between your own research and looking at them, you will pick the right truck for you. However, as most have replied, a diesel is pretty much necessary to safely haul your load, be it chevy dodge or ford.
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pfifla1 View Post
120K miles 08' dodge 2500 spent 0 days in the shop, love the 6 speed trans and std. exhaust brake. i owned a 04 chevy duramax, which i don't want to get into a brand bashing contest but i had some serious issues which i could elaborate on via PM. i have noticed no ride difference between the Chevy and dodge.
Nice truck and boat, how do you like the Mercs? What does she do flat out and what kind of MPG do you get at 30+/-
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Originally Posted by dadriva View Post
It is hilarious to see / read all of the mud slinging here about the Tundra yet no one has any real world experience with the 2007 and subsequent years.

I do have real world towing experience with the 5.7 Tundra and can say that it is an absolutely amazing rig. It never shuddered, studdered, or did anything negative. The only thing it did do was perform...flawlessly. I towed my Donzi 29 ZFC many times until putting the entire package on a truck scale.

reference this thread...

http://www.thehulltruth.com/trucks-t...t=donzi+tundra

After I put it on the scale I realized that my previous calculations of 9800 lbs were too low. I was 400lbs over the Tundra's max towing limit at 10,600lbs. and 700 lbs over my GCVW at 16,700lbs. This was even more impressive to me to now know these numbers.

That being said, I just picked up a 2008 Ford F250 Diesel. I was a liability on the road and am no longer. It is an amazing rig and for anyone that is really going to tow heavy loads (10k or more) any appreciable distance I would recommend a diesel.

For the OP, I was right at the limit and my gasser was great but I was over the published (legal) limitations for my tow rig and was forced to go bigger. I am happy that I did though.

You cannot place a dollar amount on peace of mind.
Nice unbiased reply/comment for OP. I too own the new CrewMax Tundra towing a Grady Gulfstream. No issues.....fuel mileage definitely over rated and previous post of 8 to 9 mpg is accurate for towing. This thread is entertaining, but, hope this is helping your needs instead of humoring me. Good luck!
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How many Towing miles and how many non-Towing miles are you looking at? There were some used Dodge 2500 with V10's in them at relatively good prices recently. My brother has a 98 V10 Dodge with a 4.10 rear end that has pulled a car trailer at about 11,500 from Indiana to TX with realitive easy. Only got like 8 MPG this load but normally is 11 and that does not change with a 6k load.
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Originally Posted by bayotanzk View Post
The Tundra with the 5.7 v8 has towing rating of 10,800 lbs in double cab and 10,400 in Crew Max (true 4 dr model) and pulls these weights well. 2007 used should run around $16,000-20,000 depending on condition and miles and maybe less. It is a buyers market. Not diesel, but great pulling truck and yet good driver with great fuel economy for an almost 400 hp engine. The 2007 5.7 v8 came standard with the class 5 hitch on the truck w/trans/oil cooler.
This is a good choice if you like being at the gas station more than fishing. My f-350 does just fine with mpg and it will pull the house down
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I have, there is not that much difference, in fact the brakes on the Tundra are bigger than Dodge, or GM's 3/4 and 1 ton trucks and about the same size as the Fords.
I think the majority of the comments about the Tundra are from people familiar with the previous version and have not looked at the new one or know the specs.
If the Tundra drivetrain is so weak it is pretty funny that Toyota offers a factory supercharger with full factory warrantee that brings the engine output up to 504hp and 550 ft lbs or torque.
http://www.trdusa.com/featuredpart.c...=Superchargera
ok. Compare that to a 500 hp deisel and you will see the difference. Nothing at all can match the towing capacity
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Originally Posted by Fla4life View Post
ok. Compare that to a 500 hp deisel and you will see the difference. Nothing at all can match the towing capacity
500hp Diesel engine = 500hp Gasoline engine. 500 foot pounds of torque from Diesel = 500 foot pounds of torque from any engine.
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Originally Posted by Grady678 View Post
500hp Diesel engine = 500hp Gasoline engine. 500 foot pounds of torque from Diesel = 500 foot pounds of torque from any engine.




Not even remotely close... A diesel engine will produce far, far more torque than a comparable horsepower gas engine. My Chevy Duramax turbodiesel (slightly modified) produces about 400 hp, and about ~710 lb ft torque. The Cat diesel in our motorhome produces about 370 hp, and ~1100 lb ft of torque. Towing anything at all sizeable, the right choice is a diesel...
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I will only short haul tow and might take one 500 miles trip, with the boat, every year.
The Tundra with the 5.7 v8 or a late model GMC/Chevy diesel may be the way to go.

How does the Tundra ride compare to the Chevy?
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Originally Posted by dieselpusher View Post
Not even remotely close... A diesel engine will produce far, far more torque than a comparable horsepower gas engine. My Chevy Duramax turbodiesel (slightly modified) produces about 400 hp, and about ~710 lb ft torque. The Cat diesel in our motorhome produces about 370 hp, and ~1100 lb ft of torque. Towing anything at all sizeable, the right choice is a diesel...
Not to mention , the STOCK Diesel motor will do it for years .
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This is a pretty good read about the half ton segment, http://special-reports.pickuptrucks....shoot-out.html
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The biggest diff between gas and diesel is not just how much more torque the diesel makes, but at what RPM. Diesels generate WAY, WAY more torque at low RPM. This is why a diesel will pull a heavy load down the hwy all day long at low RPM w/o downshifting at evey little bump in the road. A gas motor simply can't match that. Either you're running it at 5,000 RPM in a lower gear to generate the necessary torque, or you're lugging it and constantly down-shifting. That low end torque also comes in REAL handy when pulling your boat out of a ramp. You don't have to nail it in order to generate the torque to get the load moving and therefore your tires never break lose and just spin like they do with a gas motor. The duramax produces 660 ft*lbs at 1600 RPM. Show me a gas motor that does that and I'll show you a motor that's too big to put in any truck.

To illustarte my point. The Tundra 5.7 generates 401 ft*lbs at 3600 RPM--- not even close to 660 @ 1600.
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Originally Posted by Grady678 View Post
500hp Diesel engine = 500hp Gasoline engine. 500 foot pounds of torque from Diesel = 500 foot pounds of torque from any engine.
Nice try. Maybe I should have elaborated a little more?

My f-350 dually puts out 500 hp and just under 1000 lbs of torque. Most deisels, not all, will about double their torque
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To finish what I was saying. Most deisels torque will about double their hp
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Well its apparent that he does not want a diesel. My suggestion? 2005-2006 Ford Excursion with a V10. It will pull 10k all day long if you add a set of rear air bags. Personally I would not even consider a Toyota. You need a truck or SUV built like a truck. Not a Toy.
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Originally Posted by BlueWaterRunner View Post
Well its apparent that he does not want a diesel. My suggestion? 2005-2006 Ford Excursion with a V10. It will pull 10k all day long if you add a set of rear air bags. Personally I would not even consider a Toyota. You need a truck or SUV built like a truck. Not a Toy.
What experience do you have with the Toyota Tundra to say it is not built like a truck?
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