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Old 09-09-2009, 04:54 AM
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The public unveiling is here and if you have not seen the details, here are a few:
.6.7L V8
.In house design and manufacture
.Valley side exhaust (minimizes exhaust plumbing to turbo, maximises use of exhaust energy. Intake on outboard of cyl heads.
.Compacted graphite iron (CGI) block casting (higher strength than grey iron).
.Designed to meet future emission regs.
.B20 fuel capable.
.Debuts in new Superduty over the next winter.
.Inhouse codename "Scorpion"

As a retired Ford engine guy, after years of design and test, we have been counting the days to the introduction of a new diesel that will live up to the reputation of the Superduty pickups. Of course the proof is in the judgement of the users such as the knowledgeable and serious towers that are on THT.

Hopefully this is informative, and not considered SPAM. Better than "I bought a new spare tire" thread.
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Hmmm, well after looking at Superduty trucks, I just bought a new Duramax 6.6 because of concern over the 6.0/6.4 engine issues... Good luck to Ford on this endeavor..

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Personally have a 2001 F-350 crew cab 4x4 dually, intake, 6 position chip, exhaust with 200k on it. Have replaced cam position sensor by myself and later as part of Ford's recall. The vehicle still has its original brakes! No other repairs necessary and preventative maintenance done as needed/recommended. Either I got a "good one" or they're all built this good. The 7.3 L is the only way to go in my opinion!
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If the new 6.7L can supply the durability of the 7.3L with the advantages of newer technology, they'll have a winner. Good luck to Ford.
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Yeah, but it's a 2011 engine. You'll have to wait for a year.
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Originally Posted by mhinch View Post
Personally have a 2001 F-350 crew cab 4x4 dually, intake, 6 position chip, exhaust with 200k on it. Have replaced cam position sensor by myself and later as part of Ford's recall. The vehicle still has its original brakes! No other repairs necessary and preventative maintenance done as needed/recommended. Either I got a "good one" or they're all built this good. The 7.3 L is the only way to go in my opinion!
You do realize that they're not making 2001 models any more, don't you?
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:31 PM
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I bought an '08 SuperDuty with the 6.4 about 18 months ago and so far so good - it's bulletproof to date. Lots of owners at www.ford-trucks.com forum and generally speaking seems the 6.4 is quite reliable - the only consistent complaint is fuel economy which got a little (much not much) better with a recent flash update. Ford's will always suffer a bit in fuel economy as they are heavier due to suspension components (about 900 lbs heavier than other 3/4 and 1 ton trucks on average from what I've read.)

Based on my 6.4 experience I look forward to the new Scorpion motor. I'll probably wait a year or so to see that it's OK (just as I did for the 6.4) and then I'll comparison shop (I'm not particularly brand loyal - I buy what's best for my needs at the time) and if the reputation holds up and Ford continues to have the highest rated towing capacities there will probably be one in my future (although the idea of their upcoming 1/2 ton diesel is appealing...)
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The new engine is built by Fiat??
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The new engine is built by Fiat??
nooo, it's built by ford.
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Got an 08 6.4 and a 02 7.3. Hopefully they combines the best of the 2 motors. I still like the cummins px-8 in my Kenworth better. Sounds more like a tractor.
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Originally Posted by cabowabo14 View Post
nooo, it's built by ford.
Ford has had some help I think the company is PSA and has ties to Fiat which builds diesel for the overseas market ( Europe and others) I don't think Ford could build such a large diesel in such a short time without some help.

I really hope they get this one right,
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super duty with a cummins, any diesel man's dream.
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Last I checked, Ford took no money from bush or from herr magic street *****. Bought a Ford F250 diesel yesterday...

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Originally Posted by cabowabo14 View Post
super duty with a cummins, any diesel man's dream.
Dont forget the Allison tranny...
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Dont forget the Allison tranny...
definitely
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I am REALLLY hoping this Scorpion can live up to the 7.3 rep......What good is the toughest and best looking(IMHO) truck if it won't freaking go anywhere!!! Drove the Dodge and the GM's but the trucks themselves just seem cheesy compared to a FORD. A Cummins or CAT with an Allison in a Super Dup- THAT would be a seriously awesome, reliable pick up truck!!
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I have a 6.7 in my Dodge-it is awesome
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I've also heard hopeful rumors about the upcoming Scorpion motor. The last superduty I owned was a 99 with the 7.3. I put 100,000 trouble free miles on it before I traded for a new '03 duramax. People say I'm crazy, but the 99 handled heavy trailers as good if not better than my cummins. I've also owned multiple 12 valve dodges, two were transplants into newer half tons. My complete street version turned in 27 mpg and ran 12.1's in the quarter mile on 20'' street tires. I've always preferred the Ford truck itself. That truck with an 05-06 5.9 cummins motor would be my version of a truely great truck. I hope this Scorpion will be very solid and turn in good economy. If it proves to be anywhere near as durable and economical as the cummins I'll more than likely have one. I modify all my diesels wether I plan on it or not, so it will have to proove itself durable first.
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My complete street version turned in 27 mpg and ran 12.1's in the quarter mile on 20'' street tires. I've always preferred the Ford truck itself.
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Originally Posted by CMP View Post
Last I checked, Ford took no money from bush or from herr magic street *****. Bought a Ford F250 diesel yesterday...

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That is great!

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