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Old 11-30-2020, 06:08 PM
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This group seems to be pretty knowledgeable about trucks. I just sold my 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT Z71 4 door. The truck was a beast and never had any trouble with it. It was the premium plus level SLT, so it was basically sunroof away from having the Denali badge. It was a very comfortable truck with lots of luxurious creature comforts. I would like to get a new GMC, but quite frankly Iím afraid of the transmissions they are using now.....Iíve seen too many negative reports and I know of a few first hand problems from friends and clients. Having said all of that I have narrowed my decision down between a new F150 SuperCrew Lariat FX4 with 5L V-8 with 3.73 rear axle and a 4 door Toyota Tundra Limited. The only thing I tow is a Pathfinder 2300 HPS. The Toyota seems to lag in technology, but all I really need it to be able to do is Bluetooth my phone for hands free talking. I donít need fancy GPS and stuff like that. Leather seats are however a must. The Ford eco boost 3.5 V6 with 3.55 would have plenty of pulling power, but Iím concerned about the longevity of the eco boost. I tow the boat locally just several miles to the ramp and the occasional trip for a vacation about 250 miles one way on flat ground. My daily driver is a company sedan, so the truck is really just my weekend hunting/fishing truck. I know both trucks burn gas like crazy, but at 7,000 miles a year Iím not too worried about it. If you were spending my money and not yours, which of these 2 trucks would you get? And let me stop you now and say that I am not buying a Ram.
Old 11-30-2020, 06:17 PM
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You will hate the Toyota. Due to the tsunami and nuclear impact on the island they were never able to get the redesign off of the ground. Your current Silverado is miles ahead already.


The 3.5EB is one hell of an engine. I drove mine like a raped ape when not towing and had a 9800# rig that I towed thousands of trouble free miles. The truck had 80K on it when it went away and I hade 0 trips back to the dealer.

My 2020 Ram was really nice. Itís worth checking out. I was surprised by it. Why does Ram get no love?

As for another GM I had a 2020 LTZ rental for about a month before I bought my ram and decided that I was not going to go the Chevy route.
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Nissan with a cummins or Tesla Truck. just to bring up something you didnít ask about. Lol

i never liked the tundras. So if those 2 were my choice it would be ford. But you could probably get away with a Jeep or a new bronco 4 door too.
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This group seems to be pretty knowledgeable about trucks. I just sold my 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT Z71 4 door. The truck was a beast and never had any trouble with it. It was the premium plus level SLT, so it was basically sunroof away from having the Denali badge. It was a very comfortable truck with lots of luxurious creature comforts. I would like to get a new GMC, but quite frankly Iím afraid of the transmissions they are using now.....Iíve seen too many negative reports and I know of a few first hand problems from friends and clients. Having said all of that I have narrowed my decision down between a new F150 SuperCrew Lariat FX4 with 5L V-8 with 3.73 rear axle and a 4 door Toyota Tundra Limited. The only thing I tow is a Pathfinder 2300 HPS. The Toyota seems to lag in technology, but all I really need it to be able to do is Bluetooth my phone for hands free talking. I donít need fancy GPS and stuff like that. Leather seats are however a must. The Ford eco boost 3.5 V6 with 3.55 would have plenty of pulling power, but Iím concerned about the longevity of the eco boost. I tow the boat locally just several miles to the ramp and the occasional trip for a vacation about 250 miles one way on flat ground. My daily driver is a company sedan, so the truck is really just my weekend hunting/fishing truck. I know both trucks burn gas like crazy, but at 7,000 miles a year Iím not too worried about it. If you were spending my money and not yours, which of these 2 trucks would you get? And let me stop you now and say that I am not buying a Ram.
Good luck with that. Very shortly you'll be inundated with opinions about why you should buy one or another. Personally, I'm a Ford diesel guy so you can guess what I'd recommend, but I did read your whole post and didn't skip straight to a response. That being said, I, like you, would consider a Toyota, but I would not consider anything else......
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Bought a 2001 Tundra new in 01í and absolutely enjoyed it the entire time. Sold it in 2018....bought a new 2018 Tundra for a replacement and am thoroughly enjoying it as well. And if I were asked for ideas for improvements, Iíd be at a loss to name anything. So thereís one review.
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If I had to buy a truck that I had to keep for a long period of time, Tundra hands down. I know some are all into fancy buttons, big screens and ass ticklers which the Tundra doesn't have, but what it does have is proven reliably. Its just an honest old school truck that gets the job done while not trying to show off. Only real downside is the fuel economy.

My 2nd choice would be For 2.7 Ecoboost for the fact ot can pull 7k (with right package) and gets great mpg.
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Iím a Service Manager at a fairly large independent dealership. Most of the turbo and timing chain issues Iíve seen with the Ecoboost where do to lack of oil changes. We also see it in the small GM, Subaru, Ford cars and SUVís... damn near anything with a turbo. Sludge plugs the cooling lines, things get hot, and itís all over. Itís always the trucks fault though and there are exceptions. With that being said, we spent 6 months driving and dealing on trucks before buying our 2020 Ram. My second choice would have been Ford and it was nearly a tie. We did drive the Tundra, it didnít do it for me, nice trucks though. Buy the 3.5 Ecoboost, take care of it and youíll be problem free.
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Guy I work with has a 2013 Eco boost with 258,000 miles. Best truck he has every owned. Was a Chevy guy.
Water pump and AC compressor is it so far.
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I'm a Chevy guy myself but own a Transit with the 3.5 EB and it has good power and very good fuel milage. With several friends owning the F150 with 3.5EB that would b my recommendation. Be forewarned the seats are not as comfy as the Chevy. JS I like to keepm for as long as they remain cost effective and enjoy the years of no vehicle payments...
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Iím a 4X4 truck guy, probably have a dozen or so. Iím not really brand loyal so I go with what I like after doing the homework. The newest one in the collection is my wifeís 2016 F150 King Ranch with the 3.5 eco boost. It has about 40,000 miles on now and has been flawless. This is our 3rd eco boost and have never had any problems with any of em, the highest mileage we had on one was about 90,000 on a 2013 F150. Had a few Ford PS diesels that were great but owning a new diesel now days is not worth the expense in my opinion. I do have a old 2003 Dodge 2500 4X4 5.9 Cummins with a manual 6 speed that I love. Also have a 2004 Chevrolet 2500HD 4X4 6.0 gas that I enjoy, gonna enjoy it more after the hair dryer gets installed.

All Iím saying is there are many good, new trucks out there and you have many wonderful choices. That being said, Iíd probably buy another F150 Ford 4X4 3.5 eco boost....they are a blast to drive if you like strong acceleration.

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I have an ecoboost and it’s the biggest piece of crap going. Worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. If it’s electrical, it doesn’t work on my truck. Door locks, rear view camera, remote start, blue tooth, mirrors have all failed. Check engine light has been on for the last 30,000 miles. The code throws a faulty oxygen sensor which the dealer has now replaced twice. Finally told me it’s the connection for the oxygen sensor at the computer and it’s north of $2,000 to replace. My next vehicle will be a tundra.
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Tundra.
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New Tundras are long in the tooth, wait if you want a Tundra... wait 3 years at least.

If you got with Ford, the 5.0 is the goldilocks motor in my opinion, if you are going to keep it a long time, go 5.0. If you are going to trade in in 5 years get whatever floats your boat.

Best option is keep the current truck, nothing has come along that has changed the market since you truck has been built, unless you just want something shiny and new.
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Originally Posted by asanders View Post
I have an ecoboost and it’s the biggest piece of crap going. Worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. If it’s electrical, it doesn’t work on my truck. Door locks, rear view camera, remote start, blue tooth, mirrors have all failed. Check engine light has been on for the last 30,000 miles. The code throws a faulty oxygen sensor which the dealer has now replaced twice. Finally told me it’s the connection for the oxygen sensor at the computer and it’s north of $2,000 to replace. My next vehicle will be a tundra.
I hear ya. After many Fords, 96 was awesome, bought a 2016 Silverado. Love the looks, ride, but damn. 5 recalls, dash rattled for 2 years, turns out none of the dash screws were tightened on the assembly line, screw missing on gas tank filler pipe, media screen-system went bad at 12k miles, tire monitoring system bad at 16k. WTF. Guarantee the Japanese would tighten the dash screws.

I still have my 2006 Honda Ridgeline, midsize beater - run it ragged, tow 5k regularly, off-road -surf fishing, 208k - flawless - it’s a tank. I use the Honda so I don’t have to put the Chevy in the shop.

Get the Tundra.

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Originally Posted by kcinnick2 View Post
New Tundras are long in the tooth, wait if you want a Tundra... wait 3 years at least.

If you got with Ford, the 5.0 is the goldilocks motor in my opinion, if you are going to keep it a long time, go 5.0. If you are going to trade in in 5 years get whatever floats your boat.

Best option is keep the current truck, nothing has come along that has changed the market since you truck has been built, unless you just want something shiny and new.
Who gives a shit. It has a V8 engine, 4x4, a bed and a comfortable interior with a stereo and air conditioning. What more do you need?

The nice thing with the Toyota is you wonít use all of your vacation time dropping your truck off at the service department.
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I truck shopped hard in March of this year. Last three trucks were fords(1/f250, 2/f150 5.0’s). I looked at and drove all with 4x4: ram 1500 Laramie, ram rebel, lariat f150 eco max tow, f150 raptor, Sierra slt, Sierra at4 w/6.2, tundra limited, tundra trd pro. My top three choices were the Raptor, AT4 and the TRD Pro tundra. I liked the Raptor the most and came very close to buying it, the AT4 was great too I really liked it. Fact is for the money I felt it was a big gamble with both of them for long term ownership and I bought the TRD Pro in the end. A lot of people trash the tundra and I bought into it a little at first, fact is it’s preference. If you’re ate up with tech and have to have the latest and greatest of everything then sure maybe it isn’t for you, I personally don’t feel compelled to get the latest iphone or anything else for that matter, just because. To be honest the new stuff usually scares me more than anything, as it’s unproven and quirky. The output numbers on the tundra still compete and the fuel mileage is on average 1mpg less than my last two f150’s hand calculated, same gas stations same commute same everything. My .02 is this, if you trade out trucks often get the 3.5 eco it’s a bad sumbitch. If you want to keep this truck a long time and don’t want to worry about it get the tundra, it’s a bad sumbitch too just naturally aspirated and as stated won’t massage your buttcheeks.

Love my 2020 Tundra, wouldn’t trade it for any other half ton currently on the market.
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Love my Ford Tremor F250 Platinum.
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Cant kill a tundra ford has better looks.
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4 time tundra owner here. Reliable, strong, and very few issues. Tough trucks, but thirsty.
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Dealer in nc had a 2021 tundra 4x4 limited crew. Msrp 52400. Sale price 47700.

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