2rodsdeep

Thanks for the feedback. Just to clarify I have already sold my GMC for about $10,000 more than the trade in value was, so I am currently truckless. I would have kept it for at least a few more years, but the opportunity presented itself to sell it for a premium so I kind of had to part with it being the price I got for it was so high. I wasn’t considering the 3.5 eco boost on the Ford since the biggest rear axle ratio you can get it in is 3.55. Once I put a 2” level on the front and put on 33” AT tires, I’m concerned the 3.55 rear axle ratio will become sluggish with the added strain of larger tires. I may reconsider on the 3.5 eco boost though. I hear a lot folks signing it’s praises.

BACKTOTHESEA

At 7000 miles a year any pick will last a couple decades. Get what you feel most comfortable in, like looks of, etc..

Lorne Greene

Go test drive one and put it into sport mode and let us know what you think. It is an absolutely amazing piece of engineering that is worth looking at. I wish Ford would license that engine to others. I went from a duramax to a 3.5 EB and the torque curve was more inline with the Duramax than the 5.4 I had before that. From the line it would just pull and pull my 9,800# rig until I let off of the gas. Amazing for a gas engine.

kernmw10

I agree. I recently rode a buddies Tundra on the way to a hunting trip and I was surprised at how comfortable it was. People can argue the lack of technology but honestly, it's just less stuff to break and I kind of like the simplicity. I'm happy in my duramax but if I had to get rid of it and get a 1/2 ton I'd strongly consider the Tundra. They are bulletproof.

llessur2

Tundra......

kcinnick2

Engine and transmission need to be updated to compete with the current class of trucks. My tow vehicle is an 09, I am completely OK with 15 year old technology in a vehicle, I am just not paying $40k that old technology, I picked up my current tow vehicle with 90k on the clock for $7k. V8 with proper tow package was all I was looking for.

gf

Which transmission are you referring too? Most new GMCs will have the 10-speed, developed jointly with Ford. If you are afraid of it in a GMC then you should stay away from it in a Ford too. However, I have 9000 miles on my 2020 Silverado 1500 with the 3.0 liter diesel and the 10-speed automatic and it has been flawless. I traded in a 2010 Tundra CrewMax, it was time for a change.

Raybo Marine NY

whatever the software or whatever is GM doesnt seem to be having the same problems the ford guys have been complaining about with the 10 speed

606zpx

What are the thoughts on the Nissan Titan

Doesnt look like it has too terribly many doo dads if you get the SV but still has all the power windows and so forth.

The tow rating is not high but frankly if I am towing over 9k pounds I would probably move up to 3/4 anyway.

The 5.6 has been around awhile. The relatively new 9 speed seems to have good reviews. It comes standard with a host of safety features (blind spot, park sense, etc). No 12" big screen that everything is tied into and so forth.

saltydog235

If a Tundra could tow 13K safely and had at least a 6.5’ bed in a crew cab, I’d buy one and never look back.

HS2300

"new F150 SuperCrew Lariat FX4 with 5L V-8"

I have a 2015 F150 Supercab FX-4 w/ 5.0 V8 & 6.50 foot bed. I get 24 MPG hwy at 65 MPH and 16 - 17 around town. It tows my 2012 Hydra-Sport 2300 CC with a Yamaha F300 with ease.

I really like the truck and barring anything unforeseen, my next truck will be another F150. I especially like the aluminum body given that I live in the Northeast and near the water.

LittleInlet

I'm a 3/4 ton chevy guy but a good friend has one of the F150's with a 5.0. Has to put 93 octane fuel in it, has taken it back to the dealer multiple times hearing a knock with no definitive answer to what's wrong. He finally figured out why it does it but I can't remember, I'll ask if you want to know. He calls it the fordrarri because of the fuel haha.

msh0146

Tundras get a lot of love on this forum for longevity and relative simplicity. There is something to be said for that, but I'd have a hard look at crash test results first, then make up your own mind.

For all the research I've done, I've decided on an F150, but not going to do anything until the spring. That gives me plenty of time to waffle between three engine choices and two or three trim levels.

On the Half Shell

That really hurts, just did that very thing today with my POS GMC! First in line this morning; just called at 3:45 to check on it and they haven't even looked at it. WTF. So much for an appointment.

On the Half Shell

Really, no problems with the 10-speed?

imbo20:

Less than 1 day of light driving and 70 miles into my new truck the transmission started to slip in and out of gear.

TX Goodfella:

My 2019 AT4 towed this morning, drove home yesterday in 4lo as that’s the only way it would move. 7k miles 4 months. Had appointment with dealer for tranny whining/hard shifting, made two weeks ago cause they so busy/no loaners. Now I’m seeing all this shit! 10speed 6.2l.

Aycock1987:

am wondering if I am experiencing the same thing... I have a whine that gets louder as my RPM's increase... almost sounds like a turbo or supercharger

Pete 67:

I have a 2019 GMC AT4, 6.2L 10 Spd transmission, after a few thousand miles the transmission started making a clicking noise. Been waiting over a month for a new transmission. Dealer said parts are not available and there is no ETA on transmission. Ford at least offers parts on their joint 10 speed transmissions {many of the internal parts may be interchangeable if the part numbers can be crossed}. Ford does have different gears and sensors.

gpraceworks:

So I have a 2020 AT4 2500HD with the 10 speed. With 399 miles the transmission did a hard sputter and then i couldn't go over 40 mph. Had it towed and they said the trans fluid was low from the factory. i got it back and it was fine for 2 weeks, then the same thing happened again. First they said they need to replace the transmission, but I got a call today saying after doing some more back and forth with GM they need to replace the "Valve Body". I will try to get the part number from them.

ses3553:

I have a brand new 2019 High Country with repeated check engine light and what I suspect to be a transmission issue. At light acceleration there is a deep rumble/vibration that gets progressively louder the longer you drive. Seems to be in the 12-1500 rpm range at varying speeds. If you accelerate or release throttle all together it goes away. Service tech went for a ride with me and said it maybe the planetary gears. I said ok but it still doesn’t sound normal. Truck is month old and currently in the shop for the 4th time. This is after trading in my 2017 Denali that saw the shop 18 times in 2 years. It was so bad GM gave me an incentive to buy the next one - which is turning out to be a big POS too

19gmcsierraat4:

My 2019 AT4 is at the dealership waiting for a new transmission. Mine only has a leak that they can't fix.


KGP AT4_2019:

WOW I DAY old.

I have 9800 miles on MY AT4 delivered 5 19 2019 and I am now waiting 2 weeks on a new Transmission. What is going on at GM??

wacnstac:

I have the 10 spd on a LT TB. It has 1000 miles and I have it in for a leak. I think it was leaking since day 1. I had the dealer undercoat the truck and you can see where the undercoating didn't stick to a frame member under the trans because it had fluid on it.

kpanza:

Interesting...my 275 mile 10 speed leaked from day 1 also...they replaced the torque converter seal, still leaked (was in shop 2 weeks that time). Is now on Day 58 IN THE SHOP, they are waiting on a new trans pump...but my dealer rep has requested a new transmission, so far no answers. Really disappointing. Have now made 4 payments, and got to drive the truck a grand total of 3 weeks between repairs. GM has approved a buyback or replacement, but now there are hardly any trucks to choose from.

ryangv26:

I’m having a similar situation. I bought a 2020 At4 in August while it was still in transit to the dealership. When I went to pick it up two weeks later it had trouble shifting into reverse when they were getting it out of the wash bay. Service dept called gm who said to have the whole transmission replaced. Fast forward a month and I still don’t have my truck. Got an update the replacement trans has been built but not shipped yet. Having mixed feelings now about taking delivery of it after it’s fixed.

RODMAN70;

Hi all! I too have a 2020 TB w/the 10 spd & 5.3. At 3800 miles I left the house & the truck made a hard, truck jolting bang into the next gear. Stopped to pick up some dinner & NO reverse! Good thing I could drive straight outta there. Checked this site & saw the low battery issue might be the culprit for trans, so I charged it overnight. Next day same issue, hard banging shift, idiot lights on dash, stuck in gear. Take off from a stop sign was like riding the clutch in a stick car. I had to shut it off, restart it, take off, bang, drive to dealer. They ordered a new valve body & it's been ok since. I don't drive it much. lost faith in the truck, gm wont buy it back. I've been buying GM trucks for the past 12 years, this is # 7. Very disappointed & don't know what I'll buy next.

Salmonbum

Did the dealer give you a time card yet? They should so you get paid.....lol

Raybo Marine NY

did I say NO PROBLEMS? '
I said they dont seem to be having as much of an issue
I dont think there is a class action law suit against GM is there?

now that 8 speed transmission in the GM seemed like a lot of problems and yet there are tons of guys who had trouble free service

now I also understand the F series truck is the best selling vehicle and that people tend to yell on the internet when things are not going well and rarely broadcast when they do

autobaun70

thats the biggest non-starter for me. Not so much the capacity, but the lack of a 6.5’ bed with the big cab. The little cab is the same as my old dodge I have now, and absolutely miserable to use with car seats.

On the Half Shell

There is a class action against the GM 8-speed; don't know of one against the 10-speed. Even the service advisor this morning admitted the 8-speed is a POS

Raybo Marine NY

but there was a class action for the ford 10 speed

the 8 speed personally I never heard a good word about it but even on this forum its come up in the past and there are guys who claimed tens of thousands of trouble free miles

I really dont care either way i have an ancient 6 speed lol