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Old 11-27-2020, 08:14 PM
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Hello all,

Was planing on trailer shopping after first of year. Planed on new and figured would get help sizing from whoever i decided to buy from.

Just came across a used 2019 Magic tilt TALS 2044. $2600. 4400 lb load, Tandem. looks new. but not sure if it is right for my boat. basic configurations looks similar other that tandem.

Have 1998 Hydra sports 1800 with 115, added T-top. Sitting on Alum Rocket single axle now. And i am pretty sure trailer is marginally sized at best and probably under sized. not a lot of info on old Hydra sports. NADA says 2800 lb. (assume with motor but not sure, motor is about 300 lb) 2 batteries, 350 Lb or more with full fuel tank, misc gear, coolers ect. i figure 3500 lb or more. existing trailer is GVRW 3500 lb.

any thought would be greatly appreciated. Hate to miss something and buy then get stuck. some bunk/basic adjustment is easy enough.

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Old 11-27-2020, 08:42 PM
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Had one that looked just like it for my 23’ bay boat. No complaints at all
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I bought a new trailer for my 18 foot Sea Ray about 3 years ago. There are measurements you need to know. They asked me, how much does the boat weigh with full tanks and gear; what is the length from where it hits the forward roller back to the transom. (that's not the boats overall length); The boats beam at the chines (determines how far apart the bunks are). The trailer not only has to be able to carry the weight, but when on the trailer the bunks should support it short of about 5 or 6 inches. In other words the rear end should overhang the bunks about 5 to 6 inches but no more. And this assumes the boats is balanced on the trailer. I had to move mine about three inches forward because the tongue load was so light my wife could lift it (she is 5' 2" and weighs 100 lbs soaking wet. ) and it stuck out too far in the rear. Now it's perfectly balanced and it's about 50 lbs tongue weight.
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Trailer on the MagicTilt website says it’s for 18-20’ length boat. Nada list the boats net weight as 2800 but Boat trader list a few Hydrasport 18’ around the same age dry weight 2250 lbs. Don’t think you can go wrong with the trailer rated 4400 lbs. I say go for it! Good luck and keep us posted! I have my 2800lb dry 2004 Striper 2101CC on a tandem Loadrite rated at 4400lbs. Currently replacing all the hubs and disc brakes
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I have had several magic tilt trailers. They make booth a cheap budget model and very good delux versions. Based on the thick rear bunk boards it is the delux model. Should be good to go.
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I spent a morning at the boat ramp with a battery powered impact wrench. Took a few tries to get the boat centered and load easily.
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Originally Posted by PeterDE View Post
I bought a new trailer for my 18 foot Sea Ray about 3 years ago. There are measurements you need to know. They asked me, how much does the boat weigh with full tanks and gear; what is the length from where it hits the forward roller back to the transom. (that's not the boats overall length); The boats beam at the chines (determines how far apart the bunks are). The trailer not only has to be able to carry the weight, but when on the trailer the bunks should support it short of about 5 or 6 inches. In other words the rear end should overhang the bunks about 5 to 6 inches but no more. And this assumes the boats is balanced on the trailer. I had to move mine about three inches forward because the tongue load was so light my wife could lift it (she is 5' 2" and weighs 100 lbs soaking wet. ) and it stuck out too far in the rear. Now it's perfectly balanced and it's about 50 lbs tongue weight.
Thanks, had planned on taking a bunch of measurements on existing setup. did not think of roller to transom.
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I spoke with local magic tilt dealer this morning. said this trailer would work. also said NADA weights are hull only. said could get away with single axle rated at 3900 lb (ez loader) hat they have in stock.
appreciate the comments. going to take a bunch of measurements on existing setup and go look at trailer this afternoon.
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Put down deposit. will pickup Monday.
Only thing I could see that may be a little different is the transom may sit a little forward on bunks. Can't think of a reason that would be a problem but if it is can always move bunks forward or cut off ends.
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To save yourself from making a $3000 mistake, take your current rig, fully loaded, to a scale so you know for sure what it weighs. There are a few CAT scales at the truck stops in Ft. Pierce.

I wouldn't trust much that a trailer dealer says.

Then, when you get the boat on the new trailer and set up where you think it looks right, you can take it back to the scales and weigh it again to see how you did.
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Originally Posted by PeterDE View Post
I bought a new trailer for my 18 foot Sea Ray about 3 years ago. There are measurements you need to know. They asked me, how much does the boat weigh with full tanks and gear; what is the length from where it hits the forward roller back to the transom. (that's not the boats overall length); The boats beam at the chines (determines how far apart the bunks are). The trailer not only has to be able to carry the weight, but when on the trailer the bunks should support it short of about 5 or 6 inches. In other words the rear end should overhang the bunks about 5 to 6 inches but no more. And this assumes the boats is balanced on the trailer. I had to move mine about three inches forward because the tongue load was so light my wife could lift it (she is 5' 2" and weighs 100 lbs soaking wet. ) and it stuck out too far in the rear. Now it's perfectly balanced and it's about 50 lbs tongue weight.
50lb of tongue weight is awfully light for an 18ft boat. I would expect you should be in the 300lb range.
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Still need to do some adjusting but boat is on new trailer.
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Other than the obvious tab issue any reason why bunks can't extend past transom? I like the smart tabs but been thinking about going electric.
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No issue sticking out, as long as they wont interfere with the transducer or tabs.

Gotta think that the trailer will be at an angle when loading and the ends should not matter.

I left my bunks just like yours, and use them as a step at the back of the boat instead of lowering the ladder.
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Looks like a good fit. With my last trip have just over 20,000 mikes on my tandem magic tilt. Set up about the same as yours. My tabs are electric and raise automatically when the key is turned off so 5hey don’t hit the bunks
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