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Old 11-26-2020, 08:33 PM
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Default Illegal Tampering by Diesel Pickup Owners Is Worsening Pollution, E.P.A. Says

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/c...ExBL3w4waTkyWQ
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Old 11-26-2020, 09:33 PM
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Didn’t take long for agenda driven journalism NYT to connect deleted trucks to Covid-19.
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Originally Posted by ttwo View Post
Didn’t take long for agenda driven journalism NYT to connect deleted trucks to Covid-19.
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Meanwhile one of the vehicles in the cavalry that escorted Biden to his beach house was a deleted ford utility body. Rules for thee not for me. Crazy how the EPA can regulate everyone else but government vehicles are exempt from the same rules.
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Do as they say, not as they do.
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The article barely mention’s it but there are many semi’s out there doing the same.
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Government vehicles have no blanket exemption to EPA rules.
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John Walke, if he has his way.....

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/john-walke

welcome to Biden’s world
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Originally Posted by Butch Davis View Post
Government vehicles have no blanket exemption to EPA rules.
That is true, but they are afforded much more leeway and freedom to delete if they choose unlike the average American. Kory Willis, who runs PPEI (a well known tuner), has government contracts to delete vehicles in certain government departments. He’s tuned and deleted government vehicles on government property under supervision of government officials. Meanwhile, the EPA is after him. So he’s performing a service for some government agencies by tuning and deleting their vehicles yet he’s fighting a legal battle with another government agency. It’s hypocrisy at its finest.
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All of this could have been avoided if the gov would have afforded the manufacturers time get it right rather than a drop dead date to put such in place, and simultaneously set a $ level cap regarding what increased consumer cost were reasonable. They did neither, which is the whole reason there is demand for deletes to begin with.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
All of this could have been avoided if the gov would have afforded the manufacturers time get it right rather than a drop dead date to put such in place, and simultaneously set a $ level cap regarding what increased consumer cost were reasonable. They did neither, which is the whole reason there is demand for deletes to begin with.
exactly. And most after market tuning companies did figure it out. Most tunes available to the market are clean tunes; very little to minimal smoke. What you get is increased power, better longevity for the motor, and less smoke than previous technology from manufactures. There are reports of modern diesels with emissions removed with clean tunes that pass modern smog tests but of course you won’t hear about that. No one ever thinks about the long term implications of having urea, or what happens to the cardboard box and plastic jug of def? That all goes to a landfill or ends up in the ocean.The EPA will do whatever it can to fine shops to collect more money. It’s not about the environment. If it was, they’d be going after the static motors in generators and pumps that are used at mines and lithium plants that produce 100x more emissions than a truck on the road does.
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It’s not about the environment $$$$$. If it was, they’d be going after the static motors in generators and pumps that are used at mines and lithium plants that produce 100x more emissions than a truck on the road does.
Same with the AR's ... pistols do all the killing anyways . If they get their way they want a $200 tax stamp on rifles and mags for money to blow on < insert ridiculous list > . Batten down the hatches it's gonna get stupid .
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The emissions requirements basically require the exhaust out to be cleaner than the air in. And then ruining the reliability of the engines

What emissions come from dealing with broken engines?

The EPA regs for diesel went way overboard. No wonder there was pushback and creative people doing work-arounds.

I am absolutely against "rolling coal", that is stupid.

But there are so many benefits to diesel in some apps. There are many ways to minimize emissions that do not destroy the reliability of the machine.

I don't buy that these modded truck emissions are that harmful in the broader scheme of things. Air quality in cities and rural areas (where most of these run) are better than they have been in decades.
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both the NYT (which I dropped my subscription to after the '16 election) and the EPA have to justify their existence, it doesn't mean that any kind of science enters into reporting or regulation. It gives me great pleasure to be able to still have carbs on inboard/outboard boats, and be free of their bull crap. Long Live the Quadrajet, Long Live the Holley & Long Live the Edelbrock, all with adjustable idle circuits and replaceable jets!
a friend of mine was complaining that he has to replace the Cat Converter exhaust on his Mercruiser 4.3 at a cost of $4500. I told him that his "problem" is actually solve-able, but the methods are undoubtedly illegal, although boats don't have to be inspected....yet..... What a rip off of consumers. I wonder how long outboards will get away with no cat converters, it might force someone else to buy the E-tec technology from BRP since they ran lower pollution specs than any 4 stroke outboard, without any kind of cat converter or exhaust after-treatment. EPA has over-reached what the public wants them to do, once the public realizes what it means to them (cost) but they never have to face a cost benefit analysis for what they demand and force on us....
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This EPA strangulation of diesel engines is part of the reason Ford developed it's new 7.3L gas big block.
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Thanks Obama
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Thanks Trump for suffocating us at your glee even though this was done under your watch.

"A spokesman for the E.P.A., James Hewitt, initially said Wednesday that he was unfamiliar with the report." How can anyone in that job be unfamiliar...incompetence?

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Typical government statistics. "It appears 15%". Nice number. Not 12.8 or 17.3. Surprised it is not 20%.

They don't know how big the problem is so they make up compelling numbers.
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Originally Posted by Snow Shovel View Post
Typical government statistics. "It appears 15%". Nice number. Not 12.8 or 17.3. Surprised it is not 20%.

They don't know how big the problem is so they make up compelling numbers.
Like the ARS population in the Gulf . Agenda driven lackeys with power .
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