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Old 11-08-2020, 09:31 AM
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Throwing around the idea of getting a new truck. Used prices are crazy so Iím not trying to find anything used. Iíll start off saying I need a 1500 thatís good for towing. I know I need a 2500 to tow my 32í 9k pound trailer but for 5-10 times a year I donít want to daily drive a 2500 the other 355 days a year. So here is what Iím looking for

A truck that can tow heavy when I need to to

daily drive about 70 miles a day in the city parking on the street aka small parking spots

large back seat for two car seats

bench seat in the front to seat 6 people total. I have a console in my truck now love it 95% of the time but i would like to be able to take 4 kids and 2 adults often.

4x4 v8 truck. I know on here people praise turbo v6 but I personally know a few people who have had nothing but problems


i probably wouldnít mind going with another ram I think they look the best, ride the most comfortable and I think the down fall of my truck was letting it sit for 5 years while I drove a car to work. I donít think the coil over is good for towing though and thatís why Iím looking at other brands. I was considering a Nissan Titan xd with the Cummins but I donít know if I can bring my self to drive a Nissan 😂 so whatís your guys opinions and why?
Old 11-08-2020, 11:04 AM
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How do you figure a 1500 will be easier than 2500? Only real size footprint difference between them is that the 1500ís are prevalent with a nearly useless 5.5í bed vs 6.5-6.75í on the 2500ís.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
How do you figure a 1500 will be easier than 2500? Only real size footprint difference between them is that the 1500ís are prevalent with a nearly useless 5.5í bed vs 6.5-6.75í on the 2500ís.
overall when I park my truck next to a 2500 the 2500 seems larger. I would imagine the turning radius would be more also. Thatís all just a guess but I know for a fact they ride like shit and maintenance is more on a 2500. Your thinking I should just buy a 2500 for towing the camper 5-10 times a year? Boats only 18ft and biggest Iíll probably go is 23
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overall when I park my truck next to a 2500 the 2500 seems larger. I would imagine the turning radius would be more also. Thatís all just a guess but I know for a fact they ride like shit and maintenance is more on a 2500. Your thinking I should just buy a 2500 for towing the camper 5-10 times a year? Boats only 18ft and biggest Iíll probably go is 23
It being a camper changes my view a bit. Hard to torsion bar a boat, but campers itís pretty well standard.

that said, drive a couple of gas 2500ís just to see. Main difference is the sit taller.

Iíve stuck to a 1/2 ton myself, but leaning 3/4 ton for the next because they are largely exempt from emissions nonsense such as mds. Already most one motor to that garbage, but thankfully under lifetime warranty.
Old 11-08-2020, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
It being a camper changes my view a bit. Hard to torsion bar a boat, but campers itís pretty well standard.

that said, drive a couple of gas 2500ís just to see. Main difference is the sit taller.

Iíve stuck to a 1/2 ton myself, but leaning 3/4 ton for the next because they are largely exempt from emissions nonsense such as mds. Already most one motor to that garbage, but thankfully under lifetime warranty.
I have the lifetime warranty too itís what makes it so hard to commit to buying a new truck
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My 1500 Ram Limited gets about 13.5-16mpg depending on city of hwy. of course it can get 19-20mpg but I donít drive it all the time to maximize mpg. I just drive it.

I have the 5,7 and 3.92ís air suspension is super comfy and towed well; but Iíve never towed more than an 18í Scout. Air suspension and WD hitch should cover your needs on the towing you detailed above.

All the other stuff youíve read is true. Good Looking truck, very nice interior. Known for rear window/3rd brake light leaks and a strange driveline clunk first thing in the morning. I havenít had a leak but I have heard the clunk.

only complaint I have is the mpg could be better mostly because it really hasnít improved in 10 years. But itís a 400hp truck with tall rear gear so, yah, it is what it is.

This thread will quickly devolve into a Chevy/Ford/Dodge bash with the others hammering you about towing heavy with a 1500 bla bla.

They all have their +/- but pick the one you want to ride in everyday and see when you walk outside. The rest will work itself out.
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My 1500 Ram Limited gets about 13.5-16mpg depending on city of hwy. of course it can get 19-20mpg but I donít drive it all the time to maximize mpg. I just drive it.

I have the 5,7 and 3.92ís air suspension is super comfy and towed well; but Iíve never towed more than an 18í Scout. Air suspension and WD hitch should cover your needs on the towing you detailed above.

All the other stuff youíve read is true. Good Looking truck, very nice interior. Known for rear window/3rd brake light leaks and a strange driveline clunk first thing in the morning. I havenít had a leak but I have heard the clunk.

only complaint I have is the mpg could be better mostly because it really hasnít improved in 10 years. But itís a 400hp truck with tall rear gear so, yah, it is what it is.

This thread will quickly devolve into a Chevy/Ford/Dodge bash with the others hammering you about towing heavy with a 1500 bla bla.

They all have their +/- but pick the one you want to ride in everyday and see when you walk outside. The rest will work itself out.
I have the ram 1500 now with air bags and equalizer wd hitch. If I put my foot in the hitch and can shake the whole truck side to side pretty good. Iíve had the truck for 10 years this December
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Originally Posted by BST24351 View Post
I have the ram 1500 now with air bags and equalizer wd hitch. If I put my foot in the hitch and can shake the whole truck side to side pretty good. Iíve had the truck for 10 years this December
Iíve had mine for 1.5 (2019). Never tried to push the hitch around so I donít know if thatís normal.
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Originally Posted by Tainui View Post
Iíve had mine for 1.5 (2019). Never tried to push the hitch around so I donít know if thatís normal.
I tried it on my brothers 15 and itís the same way. My whole family has dodges there good comfortable trucks and have a lot of power for towing I just wish they made one with leaf springs for a stiffer suspension so I could have something in the middle of ride like a car and ride like a 2500
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My 2020 Ram was really nice. I mean really. The down side was coming off of a 3.5 EB the engine in the Ram sucked. On the other hand the suspension on the Ford sucked for any real weight.

If you are going to buy a new truck for towing I would just go ahead and get a 2500 gasser so you donít have to worry about upgrading the truck in the future.
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All trucks are compromises of a sort. And the only way you can tow a 32' boat weighing 9000 lbs. is going to be a 3/4 ton, and preferably 1 ton pickup truck.

Unfortunately, such trucks capable of a back seat are Crew Cabs and they're about 19' long with a 6 3/4 foot pickup box. Parallel parking such a large vehicle in the city is not suggested.

The 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks of today are much improved in driveability, ride and handling. But fuel mileage would possibly be tough if you drive mega-miles every day.

A diesel gets about 20 mpg, however the engine option is $10K more than a gas version that gets more like 14 mpg on the open highway.

You might do better to have a car to drive to work and a used 3/4 ton or 1 ton crewcab truck for weekends.
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OP, modern day 3/4 tons don't ride like crap. Go out and test drive them. They are extremely comfortable. I daily drive a 2019 Denali Duramax and frequently drive through the city and park in the city. Parallel parking is not an issue either with modern day cameras and if you're a good driver. I genuinely don't have any problems parking anywhere I want to. It's a way better and more capable truck than my previous 1/2 ton. I don't really see any major differences in driving one or the other in terms of difficulty. A 1/2 ton with a 6.5 foot bed is the same length as a crew cab standard box 2500. Diesel is more expensive but you'll recoup that cost when you go to sell it for the most part. The other day I filled up my 36 gallon tank with $1.89/gallon diesel. Generally, diesel is only about 10 cents more than regular unleaded gas right now near me. Some half tons recommend premium gas to get the best fuel mileage and hp/torque specs and premium fuel is a lot more expensive than diesel right now where I fill up. I just got back from a road trip and I averaged 21.8mpg on the lie-o-meter on the dash. Cruise control was set at 74.
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This is my first post on this site. I have been lurking for a while. Based on what your requirements are, take a look at the Titan XD. I recently bought a used 2018 gas. I really like it. I realize it serves a small niche...really those who tow within 1/2 ton specs but like a little more stability.
I tow my 23í, 7k (wet) boat and trailer infrequently but regularly pull 5-8k on utility trailers that is never the same load and not always balanced or with trailer brakes. I am coming out of a 2008 Toyota Sequoia with 183k that was indestructible and did everything asked of it but the Titan XD feels so much more solid and stable. I realize itís a bad comparison as the Sequoia is short wheelbase. I also have a company 2012 Ford F-250 Crew Cab, 4x4 gas and the Titan rides like a Cadillac in comparison. Anything 10-12k, Iím probably using the F250 but I feel like the Titan XD is a really good option (and value) at the upper reaches of the 1/2 ton territory if you want a more comfortable towing experience.

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Iíve been very impressed with the turning radius and ability to park this new F350 SD CC LWB with the adaptive steering. I would imagine the SWB SDís would be a breeze but Iím also accustomed to maneuvering a HD truck.
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I recently went from a 2015 ram 1500 with hemi and 3.92's to a 2015 ram 2500 with cummins. both are crew cab 6.5' bed trucks, in fact only difference between the two being absence of center console in the 2500. Compared to my previous older 2500 and 3500 leaf spring trucks, the new one rides like a caddy. definitely a bit stiffer ride but nothing bone jarring. That said, the half ton was still a better DD, aside from the mpg. It was peppier and handled better. Parking isn't any different. Trailering manners are night and day different
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I really donít get when peoples argument against a 2500 is a shitty ride or theyíre hard to park. If you want something that gets 40 mpg and can be parallel parked inside a shoe box, buy a Honda Civic and leave your 3/4 ton truck at the house for when you need it.

the new 3/4 ton trucks donít ride like shit like they used to. Theyíre comfortable, ride smoothly and get decent fuel mileage, especially when compared to older models. They are much easier to park now a days and with all the cameras available they essentially park themselves.

I drive a 2010 LMM duramax. Does it ride like my wifeís suburban? No but I donít expect it to. It rises a little stiff and has some rattles and cab noise. I bought it to do a job which is tow my boat and that it does exceptionally well
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You said you have dismissed Ecoboost trucks....but isn't the new F150 available with a 12K or 13K towing capacity? I know many happy owners and, yes, a few unhappy ones but that is true for most vehicles (though I am not sure if I know any unhappy toyota owners, but I am sure they exist).
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For what you describe I would at least see if you can find a 2500 With the 6.4/8 speed combo and see what you think before dismissing the gas 3/4. I personally really like my tundra but understand why many donít, Iíd possibly take a look but Iím not sure if the have the front bench in anything but a work truck. A 5.0 f150 with 3.73ís might be the ticket, Iíve had a couple with 6 speeds I liked a lot the 10 might be a lot better. If you go 1/2 ton Iíd for sure add bags to the rear or some other way of stabilizing for the heavier tows.

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There isn’t a 1500 on the market that will tow a 32 ft trailer that weighs 9k pounds or more. At least it will not tow it within your payload limitations. 32 foot box plus the tongue and whatnot is wayyyy to long and that weight is far too much in terms of tongue weight and overall payload. Especially loaded down for traveling and with your whole family loaded up. Ford doesn’t make the hdpp anymore and that would have been your only chance.

2500/250 no question. Do yourself a favor and everyone else that has to share the road with you when you are towing your travel trailer

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