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Old 10-14-2020, 05:15 PM
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Default Suburban / Expedition / Sequoia

For towing approx 7,500 total boat trailer rig .

Consumers rates Sequoia powertrain high but
other things not so good.
Suburban gets only ok reliability rating.
Expedition rated better but lousy brakes.

Looking to go used and prefer SUV over truck for several reasons .
Old 10-14-2020, 05:52 PM
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Sequoia will be the most reliable by far. It drives well, easier to park and navigate than you would think, and it’s very comfortable. Roomier with a better third row than Tahoe/Yukon prior to their most recent refresh. It doesn’t have the room of a Suburban especially if you need the third row plus luggage. But the Sequoia is a big vehicle. Great 4WD system if you’re looking for 4WD.

Sequoia downside: the dash and interior is dated versus its competitors. Backup camera is tiny. I looked at a 2018 (mild refresh then with updated safety suite and a better looking front end IMO). I looked at replacing the radio on a new vehicle with a larger screen and 360 degree camera system...this is a viable option since the dash is double DIN for the radio. The other downside is truly terrible mileage. The 5.7 is very smooth but it sucks gas. I ended up buying a used 2016 Land Cruiser with the same motor and even worse MPG.

You will be near the max tow weights of all your choices listed. You may want air bags to prevent sag in the rear, and good trailer brakes.

I towed with a Tahoe for years. The GM’s will fall apart at 10 years and they will burn oil at 120k miles. I’ll never buy one again, my Toyota and Lexus vehicles last forever.

The new Expedition is very nice although I have not towed with one. The older model is nothing special.

There will be one to three people on here momentarily saying you need a Suburban and you need the extra wheelbase to tow. I disagree. My Land Cruiser tows great with a short wheelbase. Gef a Suburban if you want one but I don’t think they will tow any better than the Sequoia.


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Expedition has to have the HD towing package to tow that weight. We are waiting for our new one to be delivered. Only reason were waiting is for the HD tow package. Surprised more don’t come ordered with them. 7k lbs. is peanuts for an SUV in 2020. The 3.73 gear is awesome! They ride amazing and look much nicer than the new update of the Tahoe platform IMO

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Originally Posted by bgreene View Post
For towing approx 7,500 total boat trailer rig .

Consumers rates Sequoia powertrain high but
other things not so good.
Suburban gets only ok reliability rating.
Expedition rated better but lousy brakes.

Looking to go used and prefer SUV over truck for several reasons .

Depends how old of used you are looking. For 7500 lbs, I would go with the longer wheelbase of the suburban. Stay away from Tahoes/Yukon/sequoia.

Just for the handling factor.
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Wheelbase lengths below for 2018 model years. The new Tahoe is longer than the old one but you said you are looking used.

Land Cruiser 112”
Tahoe 116”
Nissan Armada 121”
Sequoia 122”
Expedition 122”
Suburban 130”
Expedition Max 131”

As stated I think wheelbase is over emphasized and vehicle weight is under emphasized when people compare tow vehicles...heavy trucks tow better. My Land Cruiser is a MUCH better tow vehicle than the Tahoe it replaced. I think anything longer than the Tahoe will be great.

Edited to add the Nissan. If you need to seat 8 plus luggage then Suburban and Expedition Max are your choices. If you just need to tow 7500lb, any of them will work if optioned correctly.

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The fact that Toyota and Nissan don’t make a true full size suv is a shame. A true full size suv has 3 rows AND ample cargo room for all three rows being full.

that leaves you with suburban/Yukon xl and expedition max. Personally I would lean towards the Denali on the GM side specifically to get the 6.2 motor, or Ford offering, and completely skip nissan and Toyota.
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The expedition went through the rebuild in 2018 so pre 2018 will be a lot different. The Pre-2021 Denali XLs are good looking if you need long and a big gas motor. Tons of torque out of those platforms. If you want newer and options I would get the expedition. It drives amazing and is a very versatile SUV. The max is very big. The regular size is plenty long and heavy to tow. With Fords tech package it should help if your super heavy but 7k lbs is not much at all for that vehicle. The GM 6.2 is a beast but drinks. The XLs, Max’s are just super long. Unless you have 10 kids and 5 dogs you’ll be fine with the regular size. It’s an SUV, it can only do so much. If you need a truck, get a truck and a camper shell. Agree on the above info to skip the other manufactures.
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I've had a suburban in the past, and when you need that kind of room, it's silly good. It seems like when we were going to the boat (when my daughters were younger), we always had coolers, friends, two dogs. Heck I invited several neighborhood guys fishing (boat was slipped about 12 miles from my house), we could get everyone in without issue. I guess I'd rather have it and not always need it, than not have the room and need it.

On the used market, there won't be a huge difference on price to bump to the Suburban (1/2 ton).

Just my .02
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Before you buy make sure they make Airbags and or add a spring type kits for the vehicle. Towing that heavy will certainly make the SUV squat. Some years they dont have kits for. Just something else to think about.
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my vote goes to Sequoia ...
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Interesting replies ....

Current is 04’ Ford Explorer with v6, towing boat w twin axle trailer total weight close to 5,000 lb....
Doesn’t squat and still towing fine at 150,000 miles, orig transmission .
Consideration for bigger USED SUV is for bigger boat approx 7,500 lbs total tow.


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7.3 Excursion and be done with it.
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We tried Sequoias at my work for some of the managers. Mostly highway miles to/from home/site, some off highway in the mine, very little off road in the mine. They were not reliable. We have gone back to Tahoes.
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Originally Posted by STIPulation View Post
We tried Sequoias at my work for some of the managers. Mostly highway miles to/from home/site, some off highway in the mine, very little off road in the mine. They were not reliable. We have gone back to Tahoes.
curious, what was not reliable? What broke? I have had the opposite experience with Chevy Tahoe.
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I regularly tow 7500lbs(HydraSports 2390) with a 2014 Sequoia that has Timbrens in the rear. The power train impresses me every time. It’s no HD truck but I find it to be very well mannered. Towing fuel mileage however is not good, about 8mpg

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Originally Posted by andyp262 View Post
I regularly tow 7500lbs(HydraSports 2390) with a 2014 Sequoia that has Timbrens in the rear. The power train impresses me every time. It’s no HD truck but I find it to be very well mannered. Fuel mileage however is not good, about 8mpg
Thats 8 mpg towing correct ?
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Originally Posted by bgreene View Post
Thats 8 mpg towing correct ?
8mpg while towing. Sorry about not specifying. Unloaded mpg according to the in cab readout is 16.9
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Originally Posted by 71Outrage View Post
curious, what was not reliable? What broke? I have had the opposite experience with Chevy Tahoe.
Been a while, what I remember is rear suspension and rear axle problems. Seems like there were electronics issues as well.
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Get similar mpg towing a HS 2390 with a tundra crewmax 4x4. Usually right around 9-10 on the hwy.

In the same boat as you and leaning towards the expedition with the max tow package, or possibly a sequoia. I've had great experience with my toyotas over the years.
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By the way if you are looking at expeditions, to be sure you are getting the max tow package, 3L is the axle code on the door jamb sticker that corresponds with the 3.73 axle and LSD. I've seen a lot of expeditions advertised as having the max tow package but they have the 3.15 axle (code 15).
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