ericinmich

Not debating your 1 point, but ZF probably ha 10% of the US market...

MUHSFINK07

good point but they are used in all jag and land rover products as well as all chrysler and audi products. thats gotta be more than 10%...

RLC2020

I just bought a suburban for $7500 and I've put 1,000 miles on it so far. Runs like a champ and I'll break even in about the same amount of time as you. I'm not going back to a big payment ever again I think.

Misterfu02

Beater truck for the boat ramp, always.

Blue Hen

Well Chevy dealer called going for the second trans fluid flush. With only 12,000 miles and already transmission problems
don’t have a warm fuzzy for long term. Doing research GM & Ford are in partnership with 8 speed and 10 speed transmission .Both have class action lawsuits for 8 & 10 speed transmissions . Any opinions on Tundra or Dodge ?

Salmonbum

I switched from GM to Anything other than GM in 2015. Since then 4 Rams (With ZF trans) and 2 Tundras. Between all six the only trip to dealer beside oil change was a infotainment screen on 2015 Ram, which dealer screwed up during update. There were minor recalls done during oil changes.

Between the 2 brands, the Rams Transmission is top, and I can say the best auto trans I have ever owned. This being said with both brands being used out west to climb up and down mtns, even towing. I know, no one from Florida faint. The ZF just knows what to do, when to do it and does it well every time.

HighDesert

Shop it around to the big buyers and dump it now while the market is on fire.

Misterfu02

From a financial perspective you cannot go wrong with the Tundra.

https://chrisleoonline.com/why-the-t...alf-ton-truck/

Salmonbum

I agree with this. When I got my 2018 Tundra it had a 76% 2 yr residual. No way a Ford, GM or FCA would get near that.

They are 2 different trucks. The Ram is fancy and ment for the pretty boys that need to look at alot of buttons and have their ass warmed up. But man the trans is it. Just don't think the reliability there when she gets old. Tundra is full of cheap plastic and doesn't talk to me in a sexy voice. But its kinda like an old school, honest truck that will never let u down.

RLC2020

I just came from a 2019 Ram 1500 crew and that truck was great. lots of little bugs in the first model year of the new body style, but overall a great truck. Zero trans issues, plenty of power, and boy it was a gorgeous truck inside and out. Compliments everywhere I went. If it wasn't a lease I would have kept it.

ericinmich

Since you said residual, I assume you are talking about leases.

I just traded in a 4.5 year old 2016 Silverado for 30k for a 2021. The 2016 was lower milage, about 50k, paid 43k, got 30k in trade, so 70% over that long, which is just insane, an outstanding residual, so 78% in 2 years sounds like not a great deal. It's crazy times now so that likely impaced things. New vehicle was at EPP, so no pumping up trade in by hiding money in new vehicle price.

BTW, just used the new truck (3.0 diesel 10 speed) to tow about 1000 miles. It was my son's move to his base so got weight tickets, about 4500lbs including dual axle trailer. Got about 17mpg for the trip driving 73 to 80 in mostly light traffic.

Joe

If you want to drive a Tundra.

Salmonbum

Pulling your typical "stick up for GM" practices as usual. I do give ya credit, you don't give up when you believe in something.

So that 76% residual was back in 2018, not the inflated prices of trucks as of now, so ya, that was damn good. That number is gonna change as dealer is buying it from me and writing me a nice check. So that residual gets even better.

Good luck with that 2021. Did u get one with the overbaked tires? Ya know, the latest recall.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gmautho...rossovers/amp/

On the Half Shell

Admittingly, I haven't been looking that hard but if I happen to stumble across a nice used Tundra Platinum or 1794 for even or near-even money, my current 2016 Sierra SLT Premium Plus 6.2L is outta here.

Joe

Thats going to b a let down.

Salmonbum

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. This is yours and I respect that. However, I feel the exact opposite. When I switched from GM to Toyota I had much more free time since I didn't have a Bi-weekly visit to GM dealer for problems. I had to visit the GM dealer last week to get batteries for my Duramax that I still have and the service waiting room was standing room only. No joke.

On the Half Shell

I don't think you've seen my truck threads.

Joe

I don't need to see them.

I bought a 2018 Tundra Platinum new; I had one. Sucks you had a lemon truck, but the tundra is far from the panacea for truck worries as seems to be the general idea on this forum.

Joe

Oh yeah..you're the guy that complains on every. single. thread. about your GM truck.

If it makes you fee any better, I won't ever buy another Toyota Tundra after the one I had in 2018.

And you had to buy batteries at the dealer for your truck? I bet they liked seeing you there!

On the Half Shell

My GM was not a lemon, it's normal GM which is the problem. Btw, the OP of this thread started it about the same damn 8-speed issue.

https://www.classaction.org/gm-8-spe...efect-lawsuits

I'll take my chances with Toyota