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Old 09-16-2020, 02:55 PM
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So, had my 2014 Cummins for 6 years and 140k. Planned to keep it a lot longer but just could not handle sinking those big dollars in to that diesel...

1. do not have access to a crack non-dealership mechanic. You need one.
2. Spent 6800 bucks on it in march...fluids, bad seal and 4k for a turbo actuator.
3. still blowing a def code AND a turbo code...replaced Nox sensors and still blowing...electrical nanny of some sort.

enough is enough...engines are awesome but the electronics and emissions are just too much...

2020 Power Wagon it is...tows 10800 which is all I need...I did forget how much weight that deisel has on the front...LOVE IT...



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Got out of the diesel game too. From Ď11 gmc Denali HD to 2020 F250 gas and Iím tickled to death with it. That fn gmc stressed me out. Wondering when Iíll be stranded.......
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The grass is always greener it seems. I went from a diesel to gas, and I hate it. Iíve been trying to get rid of it, but no luck yet. My truck (18 f250) is pretty much worthless on trade in, and itís a super nice looking truck, thatís great if you donít tow. It makes me angry and depressed any time I tow with it. I traded for the same reasons as you guys, but I would rather pay for repairs/unknowns than what Iím dealing with now.
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Originally Posted by RY54 View Post
The grass is always greener it seems. I went from a diesel to gas, and I hate it. Iíve been trying to get rid of it, but no luck yet. My truck (18 f250) is pretty much worthless on trade in, and itís a super nice looking truck, thatís great if you donít tow. It makes me angry and depressed any time I tow with it. I traded for the same reasons as you guys, but I would rather pay for repairs/unknowns than what Iím dealing with now.
In all seriousness, what is it that you "are dealing with now" that is worse than repairs and unknowns? Is it that the gasser doesn't pull as hard? Are you towing close to its limit and it doesn't have enough power to pull it? Or is it that you just like having more power?

I realize trading in a 2 year old truck means taking quite a depreciation hit, but I doubt it's worthless on a trade in. I'm pretty sure you'd take a big hit regardless of engine type. If you purchased a gasser for $5k less than a diesel, and now you'd have to sell it for $5k less than a 2 year old diesel, that's not a big deal. If you'd have to sell it for $10k less than the comparable diesel, then it's obviously a bigger deal.
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A gas motor doesnt pull as well as a diesel, but a gassser will outpull a diesel that is in the shop every time.

Ppl need to balance their use and understand the pros/cons. If you pull everyday a diesel should be a top choice. But if its once a month deal with the gasser revving out, it wont hurt it.


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Awesome!!!! Congrats!!!!
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Originally Posted by jobowker View Post

I realize trading in a 2 year old truck means taking quite a depreciation hit, but I doubt it's worthless on a trade in. I'm pretty sure you'd take a big hit regardless of engine type. If you purchased a gasser for $5k less than a diesel, and now you'd have to sell it for $5k less than a 2 year old diesel, that's not a big deal. If you'd have to sell it for $10k less than the comparable diesel, then it's obviously a bigger deal.
Agree with your statement, but seems to take a much harder depreciation hit than a diesel. Hereís my truck, has about 30k miles now. Trade in is less than $30k. Looking at diesels on a similar truck, the value difference now is much greater than the initial purchase upgrade of the diesel.

2018 F-250 4x4 XLT FX4 6.2 22k miles
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Always wanted a 2500 6.7, but since I don't tow a lot, I've decided to go Power Wagon too.
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Originally Posted by brdawg2001 View Post
So, had my 2014 Cummins for 6 years and 140k. Planned to keep it a lot longer but just could not handle sinking those big dollars in to that diesel...

1. do not have access to a crack non-dealership mechanic. You need one.
2. Spent 6800 bucks on it in march...fluids, bad seal and 4k for a turbo actuator.
3. still blowing a def code AND a turbo code...replaced Nox sensors and still blowing...electrical nanny of some sort.

enough is enough...engines are awesome but the electronics and emissions are just too much...

2020 Power Wagon it is...tows 10800 which is all I need...I did forget how much weight that deisel has on the front...LOVE IT...

r
Interesting. A neighbor had a late model GMC that he complained about having to spend big $$$ to keep it running. He went with a Cummins. He's had it for over a year. We'll see how long this one keeps him happy.

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Originally Posted by Salmonbum View Post
A gas motor doesnt pull as well as a diesel, but a gassser will outpull a diesel that is in the shop every time.

Ppl need to balance their use and understand the pros/cons. If you pull everyday a diesel should be a top choice. But if its once a month deal with the gasser revving out, it wont hurt it.
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Originally Posted by RY54 View Post
Agree with your statement, but seems to take a much harder depreciation hit than a diesel. Hereís my truck, has about 30k miles now. Trade in is less than $30k. Looking at diesels on a similar truck, the value difference now is much greater than the initial purchase upgrade of the diesel.

2018 F-250 4x4 XLT FX4 6.2 22k miles
nice truck. What are you trying to get for it. I have been thinking about selling my f150 and grabbing a gas 250
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Originally Posted by RY54 View Post
Agree with your statement, but seems to take a much harder depreciation hit than a diesel. Hereís my truck, has about 30k miles now. Trade in is less than $30k. Looking at diesels on a similar truck, the value difference now is much greater than the initial purchase upgrade of the diesel.

2018 F-250 4x4 XLT FX4 6.2 22k miles

That's a really nice looking truck with very tasteful additions/changes. If i were looking for a new truck, I'd have to take a hard look at that as the price is dead on. And I'm not even a Ford fan at all.
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For the average sort doing shortish commutes and towing the boat (or other) infrequently owning an emissions equipped diesel out of warranty could be a headache - they really need to be ran frequently and kept hot.
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Originally Posted by Salmonbum View Post
A gas motor doesnt pull as well as a diesel, but a gassser will outpull a diesel that is in the shop every time.

Ppl need to balance their use and understand the pros/cons. If you pull everyday a diesel should be a top choice. But if its once a month deal with the gasser revving out, it wont hurt it.

Been driving ram diesel's since 2005, and have never had to put one in the shop. I know that things can go wrong with any make or model of vehicle, but it amazes me to hear people talking like big repairs are super common. I put fuel in mine and change the oil and filters when they need it. It just starts and drives every time just like it did the day before. Oh, i almost forgot, it pulls heavy like a champ anytime i ask it to also. Meanwhile getting 18mpg with 35 inch tires "unloaded".

The last thing he said about penises, "gas guys are always talking about penises, weird" makes me assume that we have a possible case of G.I.C, gas inferiority complex, and a side of diesel envy.

P.S. hook that gasser to a real heavy load and you WILL SEE IT WORK all right! at around 4500 rpm's. lol
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Originally Posted by RY54 View Post
Agree with your statement, but seems to take a much harder depreciation hit than a diesel. Hereís my truck, has about 30k miles now. Trade in is less than $30k. Looking at diesels on a similar truck, the value difference now is much greater than the initial purchase upgrade of the diesel.

2018 F-250 4x4 XLT FX4 6.2 22k miles

been that way since i have been alive. These gas guys are always saying it is going to change. I bought my 2005 Ram CTD in 2005 for 33k, and sold it 11 year later with 150,000 miles for 20k, I can't afford to buy a gas truck.
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Originally Posted by brdawg2001 View Post
So, had my 2014 Cummins for 6 years and 140k. Planned to keep it a lot longer but just could not handle sinking those big dollars in to that diesel...

1. do not have access to a crack non-dealership mechanic. You need one.
2. Spent 6800 bucks on it in march...fluids, bad seal and 4k for a turbo actuator.
3. still blowing a def code AND a turbo code...replaced Nox sensors and still blowing...electrical nanny of some sort.

enough is enough...engines are awesome but the electronics and emissions are just too much...

2020 Power Wagon it is...tows 10800 which is all I need...I did forget how much weight that deisel has on the front...LOVE IT...



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If you spent 4K on a turbo actuator you got hosed. Did mine for around $1200.

Also take another $1500 and delete the def.

Other than any transmission issues you are
home free.
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Originally Posted by RY54 View Post
Agree with your statement, but seems to take a much harder depreciation hit than a diesel. Here’s my truck, has about 30k miles now. Trade in is less than $30k. Looking at diesels on a similar truck, the value difference now is much greater than the initial purchase upgrade of the diesel.

2018 F-250 4x4 XLT FX4 6.2 22k miles
Trade in less than $30k? That seems low to me. I'd expect it to be closer to $40k. Nice looking truck!
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Had a 2006 f250 6.0 (bought new in 08) traded it in on a 2011 Ram 2500 6.7. Love that Cummins fully deleted at 5kmiles zero problems has over 120k miles pulled a 12kpound loader for 2 years everyday. Have a 2015 ram 3500 for work it has 130k on it had a DEF problem around 20k fix never had another problem out of it either it now pulls the loader everyday since new. My 2011 is my personal truck I'm driving it till the wheels fall off then put them back on and doing it again.

I have a 2004 Chevy 2500 4x4 with 6.0 gas it a crew truck pulls lawn maintenance trailer everyday has 340k on the motor trans when a 280k transfer case at 250k my fault never check fluid.

Got a 2006 Chevy 3500 2x4 6.0 gas pulls trailer everyday trans at 250k motor a 280k. New motor new trans new truck now.

2007 f350 the "pos" motor made it to 130k with over $15k trying to keep it going till it went.

Point being gassers will pull just fine its more about maintaining your truck.
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He traded a Cummins???


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