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Old 05-22-2020, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post
Believe it or not, but not everyone wants a Tundra.
I donít want one either! I want something with the best reliability and resale, and the Tundra is the truck with those attributes.

Wants? 2020 Silverado 6.2L/10A, extended cab RST 4x4 in silver is what I want. I unfortunately have been burned by GM in the past, financially, and I refuse to support their shitty company. So I will go with another brand this time around.
Old 05-22-2020, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pooleman View Post
Why is it that these GM-haters have problem after problem with their many GM vehicles and GM-lovers do not? Could the problem be with the individual and not the brand?
Some people get lucky. Others do not. In our case you can search Chevrolet/GMC "lifter problems" and see that it is a GM engineering problem that rears its head for a notable amount of owners. Even the chevy mechanic noted it was a known issue. Unfortunately our lifter problem resulted in a cam issue that would require a top-end motor rebuild at only 112k. This was a suburban driven by my wife and was more of a family truck with relatively little towing and regular services.

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Old 05-22-2020, 12:53 PM
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Does fuelly track vehicle oil consumption? #of top end rebuilds?
Old 05-22-2020, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
I donít want one either! I want something with the best reliability and resale, and the Tundra is the truck with those attributes.

Wants? 2020 Silverado 6.2L/10A, extended cab RST 4x4 in silver is what I want. I unfortunately have been burned by GM in the past, financially, and I refuse to support their shitty company. So I will go with another brand this time around.
with all respect, why are you trying to defend your choice? Itís your life and your money. Buy what you want. I hope whatever you get is the best truck youíve had man.
Old 05-22-2020, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ncmallard78 View Post
Does fuelly track vehicle oil consumption? #of top end rebuilds?
I would guess not, or it would be called Oily or TopEndy, so Iím somewhat agreeing. I have found Fuelly to be little help.
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Old 05-22-2020, 04:25 PM
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The ďI love my GM truckĒ just got 30 posts. 😂
Old 05-22-2020, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by silver01 View Post
The ďI love my GM truckĒ just got 30 posts. 😂
Technically itís at 25 since I made 5 posts on the thread and I hate my POS GM. They do get kind of riled up about protecting them.
Old 05-22-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by saltydog235 View Post
Technically itís at 25 since I made 5 posts on the thread and I hate my POS GM. They do get kind of riled up about protecting them.
This never gets old. Good times. 😂😂😂
Old 05-22-2020, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post
Believe it or not, but not everyone wants a Tundra.
I wanted to buy something other than the tundra because you are right the fuel economy sucks and the interior is dated. I bought one anyway because I value reliability more than anything and it was less $. I want a F250 diesel after towing with one this past weekend. That doesnít necessarily mean that is what I will get when itís time to replace my current truck.
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Originally Posted by old hat View Post
I wanted to buy something other than the tundra because you are right the fuel economy sucks and the interior is dated. I bought one anyway because I value reliability more than anything and it was less $. I want a F250 diesel after towing with one this past weekend. That doesnít necessarily mean that is what I will get when itís time to replace my current truck.
Question. Whatís dated about the interior? I keep hearing dated interior. Chevys interior has been basically the same since 2014. Same goes for basically all manufacturers. Minor tweaks here and there but thatís what they all do. Minor stuff. Granted beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Originally Posted by old hat View Post
I wanted to buy something other than the tundra because you are right the fuel economy sucks and the interior is dated. I bought one anyway because I value reliability more than anything and it was less $. I want a F250 diesel after towing with one this past weekend. That doesnít necessarily mean that is what I will get when itís time to replace my current truck.
Less money than what?
Old 05-23-2020, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
There are zero scenarios where a half ton GM gets 20 mpg and a Tundra gets 13, unless youíre talking about a diesel half ton.
I've never gotten 20 mpg in a GM 1/2 ton, but there are plenty that have. I have routinely gotten OVER 20 mpg with a Ford & Dodge 1/2 ton. The Tundra I drove in, got 13 around town and no better than 16 on the highway. Perhaps I should buy some of the magic beans you're selling. It's your choice to remain close minded.
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Interesting thread. I own a low mileage (68K) 2004 4WD Suburban, 5.3L, 4-speed automatic and 3.73 axle. Tows my boat just fine. Went through several warranty repairs (leaks, rust, electrical, fuel tank, etc.) and a few out of my own pocket (brakes all around at 38 Kmiles, rear A/C unit). Steering column has the dreaded, but safe, "clunk". The good news is that nothing I've had repaired has failed again. The truck looks and runs great. No more rust because I don't drive it in the winter. Based on what I'm reading, I'll keep that 2004 as long as I can. I don't want to run the repair gauntlet again.
Old 05-23-2020, 05:19 AM
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It's clear that many are very unhappy with the "new" GM trucks. Then there are a very small amount that like their "new" GM trucks, and then there are the guys that love their "older" GM Trucks.

GM used to make a good truck until 2014 K2XX, and the gen before was maybe slipping a bit. The GMT-800 was the last good truck GM built. They were fat with money and seemed to spend it on the trucks. After bailout in 08-09, they started pinching suppliers, and cutting costs which is why the GMT-900 started to go downhill. The latter were in the time of cost cutting of current parts and trust me suppliers trimmed the quality to meet GMs demands of dropping prices.

Then the K2xx... fully designed post bailtout. Less employees to do the work of what should be an army, many suppliers went out of business and good old Mary Barra. Quality was not a concern, making high profits were. And here we are today with many on here that used to be a GM guy are now in the 'hate my GM" thread. The best is guys that still defend their new truck as "I love my new GM. Only had a new trans and an engine rebuilt in under 10k miles, rear end is making noise and it stalls alot, but it rides nice".

With that, you cannot compare your 2005 Silverado to a 2019 POS. Completely different trucks in many ways. I own a 2003 Dmax which I bought new and it's been a great truck. Had about 8-9 GMT 800s, 4 GMT 900s and I only needed one K2xx to see the signs.

I am on my 4th Ram and 2nd Tundra since 2015. Both brands have been unbelievably reliable. In the Ram, had a dealer screw up a Uconnect update and needed a new head unit, but that's the dealers fault. Other than that oil changes and tire rotations. Rams did suck, but FCA was aware of the low quality and are trying to make them better. Tundras has been perfect. But as other said, 13-16 mph is all your gonna get. Tundra does have poor materials inside, but in think it looks better than the GMs current interior. My 2019 Ram, you can be blind and just touch the inside to know its at the top of the heap.

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Old 05-23-2020, 05:27 AM
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^^^ you know heís right^^^
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I feel your pain brother, I bought a new then 2018 Lariat FX4 loaded, 62k, nicest and best truck I have ever been able to afford, the thing drives like CRAP, it is all over the road, Ford has got some serious problems with their electronic steering on the trucks with lane assist and drift control and their is a ton of complaints and these big 3 don't give a darn about it, I had an old wore out RAMBLER that drove better, there are some people computer savvy that have figured out how to alter the software and turn this crap off and their trucks drive better, but ford refuses to acknoweldge and do anything for the owners, so I went out and bought a stripped down Ridgeline a month ago and the fun is back into driving. All I can say is please Mr. HONDA, please build a 3/4 ton truck and Ford and Gm's boat will be sunk!
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'07 1/2, Duramax Allison, pre obama.No problems.
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Originally Posted by saltydog235 View Post
Going to own a GM long enough to get this mess they have me in straightened out and Ford to get production moving again. Then Iím trading this hunk of shit in. Itíll be interesting if I get to drive up to a Ford dealership with a truck with 100 miles or so on it and trade.

Still trying to decide the best course of action with my current familial situation coupled with GMís mess.

And yes, I wish Toyota would get information out on the redesigned Tundra, might make decisions easier.
And the fords have the death wobble issue and the ramís have their issues. In my opinion, a lot of it is how you take care of them. When I buy a new car I have very few problems (Doesnít matter which manufacturer) if any, unless my ex-wife drove them, then they had problems. When I have bought used cars, Iíve had problems as well.
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As an American consumer, I say buy the best product, support the best value. Corporations get lazy.
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Originally Posted by ncmallard78 View Post
Chevy dealer telling me my 60k suburban consuming a quart of oil every 1k miles was ďNormalĒ cured me of GM products forever. My neighbor has 2 2015 trucks; a Tahoe and a Denali 1500. The AC is broken on both. Never again.
I had a 2007 Avalanche LTZ. $50k vehicle at the time and had to have the engine rebuilt after GM kept telling me that a quart of oil every 1k miles is normal. After insisting it wasnít they finally agreed to have me do scheduled dealer oil level inspections and determined something was wrong. They tried various changes and nothing worked until they pulled the pistons and installed new rings. They found that three pistons had the ring gaps all in alignment. After 6 years and 60k miles, the the dash cracked. I had other small annoying issues along the way as well. Traded it for a new MDX. The Acura build quality is way better. This is my second Acura. I like some of the GM products on a design level but wonít buy them again because of poor build quality. I really want a truck again but Iíll be waiting until the new Tundra is available. For those saying to buy Americanóthe Tundra is built in Texas. My Avalanche was built in Mexico. My MDX was built in Alabama.

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