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Old 02-03-2020, 01:21 PM
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The diesel engines are now dying at way way low mileage. Some people are lucky to get even 40,000 miles before having to totally replace the emission equipment which could also take out the injectors and tons of other super expensive components. Anyone who would buy a diesel truck these days must like throwing money in the garbage. The big V8'S have just as much horsepower anyways and it is horsepower that gets a load moving!

I am an expert, I watch a lot of youtube! DO NOT just listen to anyone!

The new Gas engines are designed to run at 4000 rpms for days on end pulling heavy loads while getting 5mpg. It would take something like eleventy years for you to make up for the extra money that you would waste on buying a diesel engine, between the extra cost for the fuel, and the incredibly expensive DEF fluid. It seems like if you are not having to stop every 2 hours for fuel in the diesel, you have to stop to fill up the DEF tank AGAIN!. It is a nighmare, if you dont know about DEF, then look it up, ITS PEE PEE for Gods sake! The emission systems are putting all of the bad stuff back through the engines and tearing the diesel's up from the inside in an incredibly short amount of time. My cousins, exwife's, brother, has a friend on facebook who's truck was left idling on the lot while they were signing the paperwork and the engine wore out and blew up before they could get out of the parking lot. The dealership is trying hard not to cover it under warranty! I fully expect all of the big truck makers to drop diesel engines from their lineup over the next few years due to all of the problems that they are having.

Everything you want to know about even considering buying a diesel truck is in the paragraph's above. I will probably make this a topic and hopefully it will become a sticky to help save our fellow forum mates from making a terrible mistake.

Please fill free to add more information about the diesel epidemic below. We all need to watch out for our forum brothers, and the world in general.
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People are not detecting the sarcasm of this post.....the bottom line is that diesel pulls better than gas. End of story. You can talk numbers all you want but who cares. This is a boating forum where we splash $500 on a weekend to burn through a boat getting 2 MPG. Who freaking cares. Buy what you want but for Christ’s sake stop justifying going one way or another. Life is too short to care what other people think. My duramax is fun to drive. The gas version is not as fun. I work my ass off and make a lot of money so I will spend it however I please....so I bought a duramax.
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I seriously hope your being sarcastic....
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Looks like someone has been hitting the "sauce" early today...
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the early days of emissions you would be fairly correct, now that all that has been out for a while, they are pretty reliable! if your towing heavy loads often the diesel fuel economy will recoup fairly quick. that gasser is going to suck down some fuel when towing!

also torque is what gets things moving!
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In case it wasn't clear, this is a pro-diesel person making a sarcastic post.


"My cousins, exwife's, brother, has a friend on facebook who's truck was left idling on the lot while they were signing the paperwork and the engine wore out"

Even though I think gassers are sometimes [but not always] the better choice, I admire his sarcasm skills.
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I get 5 to 6 full takes of fuel ver that 2.5 gal to fill that DEF back up. Hp is not what moves your weight its your torque. 950 pounds of torque moves shit quick. I can pass with all the toys behind my truck almost like they are not back there.
I had no issues with the 2000 dodge till just before I sold it crank trigger went out, it was built and this 2014 3500 has not had one issue other than having to put new batterys in it.
Key to owning a diesel is buying used. Didn't pay but 42500 for my 2014 laramie with 75000 miles on it. That come apart is just getting broke in good now.
Where guys tear diesels up is turning them up. Programmers, chainging things, flash tuning. Transmissions and gear cases are the first to go, but if you leaven them alone they last.
There is nothing wrong with owning a gas truck. Your correct they have come a long way from where they were, but depending on the boat or trailer you haul the more weight natually you will want diesel. Little Toy, GAS. Big toy. Diesel. Simple enough.
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You can use sarcasm all you want.....the reality is the big 7.3L Gas V8 from Ford is a serious threat to many potential Diesel sales. Gone are the days you need a Diesel to pull 8,000-12,000 pounds a few weeks per year. Unless you are hot shot trucking or constantly towing nobody needs 1,000 lb ft of torque and the $10,000 bill, and that’s why Gas engine sales have been chewing into diesels...I still think the Diesels haul *ss and are better all around towing machines. Gas trucks have come a ways though.
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Originally Posted by liveaboard74 View Post
I get 5 to 6 full takes of fuel ver that 2.5 gal to fill that DEF back up. Hp is not what moves your weight its your torque. 950 pounds of torque moves shit quick. I can pass with all the toys behind my truck almost like they are not back there.
I had no issues with the 2000 dodge till just before I sold it crank trigger went out, it was built and this 2014 3500 has not had one issue other than having to put new batterys in it.
Key to owning a diesel is buying used. Didn't pay but 42500 for my 2014 laramie with 75000 miles on it. That come apart is just getting broke in good now.
Where guys tear diesels up is turning them up. Programmers, chainging things, flash tuning. Transmissions and gear cases are the first to go, but if you leaven them alone they last.
There is nothing wrong with owning a gas truck. Your correct they have come a long way from where they were, but depending on the boat or trailer you haul the more weight natually you will want diesel. Little Toy, GAS. Big toy. Diesel. Simple enough.
Everything you said makes sense, bu there's the rub:
You said "little toy gas, big toy diesel". There are those who need to compensate, and therefore feel they need a diesel.
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The gasser may use more fuel, but gasoline is way cheaper than diesel.
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I just sold our family's diesel truck last weekend. I thought about keeping it and using for it towing since I tow 8000lbs 100x+ a year. However I think for overall use I like owning a gas truck more. The diesel was loud in the cab and does not get any better fuel mileage than new 3/4 ton gas trucks. Plus diesel is at least 50 cents a gal more here. I did like towing with the diesel on the hwy on cruise control but Maryland is pretty flat along the Chesapeake and coast with only rolling hills so the gas is is quieter, smoother ride, etc... Plus the gas motor 5.7l with 4.30 rear is a lot snappier off the line for stretches filled with traffic lights.

I decided to sell the diesel and keep running my Tundra for a year and may get another new Tundra or I also like the F250 with the 6.2l gas

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People are not detecting the sarcasm of this post.....the bottom line is that diesel pulls better than gas. End of story. You can talk numbers all you want but who cares. This is a boating forum where we splash $500 on a weekend to burn through a boat getting 2 MPG. Who freaking cares. Buy what you want but for Christ’s sake stop justifying going one way or another. Life is too short to care what other people think. My duramax is fun to drive. The gas version is not as fun. I work my ass off and make a lot of money so I will spend it however I please....so I bought a duramax.
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I work my ass off and make a lot of money .
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The OP is totally incorrect, BOTH gas and diesels will be obsolete with the advent of lectrik trucks vis-a vis the New Tesla's that can go 1000 miles on a charge and tow upwards of 20,000. [ozs.]

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The OP is totally incorrect, BOTH gas and diesels will be obsolete with the advent of lectrik trucks vis-a vis the New Tesla's that can go 1000 miles on a charge and tow upwards of 20,000. [ozs.]
The stock is up big.... If you invest in them, you can make a lot of money and buy what you want.

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what would you rather see; my tax returns or my woman? Maybe my woman holding my tax returns over her chest cannons? Hahaha
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Everything you said makes sense, bu there's the rub:
You said "little toy gas, big toy diesel". There are those who need to compensate, and therefore feel they need a diesel.
Which is usually the case.... "I dont tow but I got a diesel because I wanted one"...... = compensation. Further justified with "gets great mpg" (even thou diesel costs more.... and/or "it rides like a Cadillac" which simple physics that can be understood by a 3rd grader can prove that is all BS. How can a truck that has spring/coilovers rated to have a payload of almost 4k lbs ride like a car? But then again in Florida a Sherman tank can feel smooth on those straight, flat roads.
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I just sold our family's diesel truck last weekend. I thought about keeping it and using for it towing since I tow 8000lbs 100x+ a year. However I think for overall use I like owning a gas truck more. The diesel was loud in the cab and does not get any better fuel mileage than new 3/4 ton gas trucks. Plus diesel is at least 50 cents a gal more here. I did like towing with the diesel on the hwy on cruise control but Maryland is pretty flat along the Chesapeake and coast with only rolling hills so the gas is is quieter, smoother ride, etc... Plus the gas motor 5.7l with 4.30 rear is a lot snappier off the line for stretches filled with traffic lights.

I decided to sell the diesel and keep running my Tundra for a year and may get another new Tundra or I also like the F250 with the 6.2l gas

I switched to diesel this year. Exact same body style truck and hauling same loads. I am saving approximately $125 per week with diesel over gas. Yes it is more expensive per gallon, but the mpg makes up for it every time I fill up my tank.

And I don't know what your diesel was that you sold last weekend but my bone stock diesel is way more peppy than an equivalent gasser.
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I agree buy what you like and go with it

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Originally Posted by Salmonbum View Post
Which is usually the case.... "I dont tow but I got a diesel because I wanted one"...... = compensation. Further justified with "gets great mpg" (even thou diesel costs more.... and/or "it rides like a Cadillac" which simple physics that can be understood by a 3rd grader can prove that is all BS. How can a truck that has spring/coilovers rated to have a payload of almost 4k lbs ride like a car? But then again in Florida a Sherman tank can feel smooth on those straight, flat roads.
This guy gets it. He knows that the real reason someone would buy a diesel is "compensation"! Probably for a little problem that they have! How could a big truck not ride like a tank? What is more important than a soft, flimsy, Flaccid riding truck. When i am in a truck i dont want to feel like im in a truck. I want it to cushion my backside real nice, real soft and warm on my backside. No sudden bumpy moments that would make my Kenny G cd skip a track. Those guys in diesel trucks just want to look tough and that is the only reason they have a diesel. They just want to feel like they are better than me because i have a gas truck! Its not true, Its, not true, ITS NOT TRUE!
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
The gasser may use more fuel, but gasoline is way cheaper than diesel.
Way way cheaper bro. Good point, how could i have forgotten that gas is 50 cent cheaper. We are killing this diesel myth together, setting the people straight with the truth. AMEN BROTHER
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