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Old 02-01-2020, 06:14 AM
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I just watched the same video early this morning. I ordered a 7.3 Tremor with the Sport package this time vs the diesel. Great video, strong motor....but I ordered the 3.55 gears vs 4.30's. Big change up for me, my towing is about 15k and less.
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Originally Posted by Jassman View Post
I just watched the same video early this morning. I ordered a 7.3 Tremor with the Sport package this time vs the diesel. Great video, strong motor....but I ordered the 3.55 gears vs 4.30's. Big change up for me, my towing is about 15k and less.
working on quotes for a Platinum 250 with the Tremor vs a 350 Platinum LWB with a factory leveling kit, FX4, 4.30 Nitto Ridge Grapplers and 18Ē aftermarket wheels. So far Iíve gotten prices from 67-71 on them. Just gotten tired of dealing with diesel and the expenses. Same boat on towing.
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On the above test, they max'd out the capabilities of the truck. And the motor was up to the job. Ford wouldn't have brought in a completely new generation engine if it wasn't going to be class leading. Unfortunately, it is also leading in fuel usage by a little--to the bad.

I'm still a diesel guy if the trailer's going to be really heavy. But for 10-11K loads, the 7.3 will certainly do the job. The 6.2 will also do the job, but it'll be weaker down around 35 mph and the engine is louder in that it gets the hp and torque at high rpms.

For someone that drives the truck every day, I would go a 6.2 over the 7.3. But if the truck predominantly is for towing heavy and is not a daily driver, go the 7.3.
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Originally Posted by Bamaman View Post
On the above test, they max'd out the capabilities of the truck. And the motor was up to the job. Ford wouldn't have brought in a completely new generation engine if it wasn't going to be class leading. Unfortunately, it is also leading in fuel usage by a little--to the bad.

I'm still a diesel guy if the trailer's going to be really heavy. But for 10-11K loads, the 7.3 will certainly do the job. The 6.2 will also do the job, but it'll be weaker down around 35 mph and the engine is louder in that it gets the hp and torque at high rpms.

For someone that drives the truck every day, I would go a 6.2 over the 7.3. But if the truck predominantly is for towing heavy and is not a daily driver, go the 7.3.
What I noticed in the video was the Ford had 4.30 gears vs Chevys 3.42. The tires were also one size larger but the Ford had a 10 speed vs a 6 speed in the Chevy. The .5 Mpg is about the same and the ones at the dealership if driven easy are getting in the mid 15's. I am just trying to scale down and get rid of a few trucks. My main daily driver is a 15 F350 LWB on a 6" lift and 37's. Love the diesel, but really don't need it any more even though this truck has been flawless. With the softer front and rear suspension, fox shocks she drives almost like my GMC and Ford 1/2 ton. I am having a hard time trading her in and kicking in about 20k for a new truck. I will say the new Ford and GMC's drive better than ever...just the price is a little to be desired.

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Originally Posted by Bamaman View Post
On the above test, they max'd out the capabilities of the truck. And the motor was up to the job. Ford wouldn't have brought in a completely new generation engine if it wasn't going to be class leading. Unfortunately, it is also leading in fuel usage by a little--to the bad.

I'm still a diesel guy if the trailer's going to be really heavy. But for 10-11K loads, the 7.3 will certainly do the job. The 6.2 will also do the job, but it'll be weaker down around 35 mph and the engine is louder in that it gets the hp and torque at high rpms.

For someone that drives the truck every day, I would go a 6.2 over the 7.3. But if the truck predominantly is for towing heavy and is not a daily driver, go the 7.3.
Fuel costs have levelled the playing field between gas and diesel. Emissions drove the last nail in the coffin. Diesels are gonna be a dying breed for small vehicles.
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I am on my second F250 6.7, love it, but all the diesel emissions BS is a challenge. I am confused as to why they are adding diesel options for the 1/2 tons??
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What is the challenge? The DEF fluid?

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I am on my second F250 6.7, love it, but all the diesel emissions BS is a challenge. I am confused as to why they are adding diesel options for the 1/2 tons??
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Originally Posted by regulatorBR View Post
I am on my second F250 6.7, love it, but all the diesel emissions BS is a challenge. I am confused as to why they are adding diesel options for the 1/2 tons??
I honestly don't have any idea why Ford/GM/Ram half ton trucks are being offered with diesel motors of any kind. They'd be good for ultra high mileage users, but there are going to be just a few sold on the retail market. Sometimes when fuel prices are high, a manufacturer will make a commitment to engineer (or purchase) an engine, hire people, build factories, etc. And when fuel prices come down, the diesel engines are not so big sellers--no volume. We've seen that with Cummins and Nissan trucks. That may be the answer to why 3.0 diesel engines are on the market.
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Any well maintained gas engine should go 400K miles. We've gotta guy locally with 800k on his.
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What is the challenge? The DEF fluid?
I do not know for sure if the DEF fluid is his challenge, but it is a BIG OBSTACLE. My diesel truck burns about 5 gallons of DEF fluid every 10,000 miles. That means i have to pony up almost 15.00 dollars every 10,000 miles. That means in the first 100,000 miles of ownership i will have spent 150.00 dollars on DEF fluid. It is a nightmare! i wish someone had warned me before i bought a cummins!

What? 15.00 dollars every 10K is a big deal mister! You think i am made of money?
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Any well maintained gas engine should go 400K miles. We've gotta guy locally with 800k on his.
Yes Bill, We all see 400,000 mile gas vehicles all over the place. Not rare at all without a rebuild.

P.S. We have 4 has vehicles in our family also. One is my son's 2002 Ram 1500 with a 5.9 gas motor "gas hog motor" it has just over 300k, but it is getting very tired. It will not see 400 on this engine without a rebuild.
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Originally Posted by Bamaman View Post
I honestly don't have any idea why Ford/GM/Ram half ton trucks are being offered with diesel motors of any kind. They'd be good for ultra high mileage users, but there are going to be just a few sold on the retail market. Sometimes when fuel prices are high, a manufacturer will make a commitment to engineer (or purchase) an engine, hire people, build factories, etc. And when fuel prices come down, the diesel engines are not so big sellers--no volume. We've seen that with Cummins and Nissan trucks. That may be the answer to why 3.0 diesel engines are on the market.
The cummins in the Nissan failed for 2 reasons. First off they put it in a Nissan. The second reason is the diesel that they put in the Nissan did not really do anything better than what is already out there. It did not really have blow you away power, and it did not really increase the fuel mileage much over their gas models. Why pay a premium for an engine that does not really pay back anywhere. I assume you could expect very good longevity from that cummins "it is a cummins". But other than that ?

My next truck could very well be the new ram 3.0 ecodiesel. I drove one around for a week and i was blown away with it. I was averaging about 30 mpg "it was a 2 wheel drive". It also had plenty of power. The new version has more horsepower and 480 foot pounds of torque. I get about 18 in my truck now. I would expect about 28 highway out of a 4x4 model. That definitely is interesting to me. 700 miles between fillups "nice".
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I actually just looked up the 2020 Eco Diesel. The EPA gave it a mpg rating of 29 highway for the 4x4 model. The truck has a 33 gallon tank. That is 957 miles to dead empty. It is also has the tow capacity to tow my boat that is rated at 10,000 pounds. I think that is why they came out with half ton diesel's. Some guys are actually claiming well over 30 on the highway in the 4x4 trucks. Mine would likely get leveled and a decent set of tires and rims so i would expect about 27 or 28 mpg. SO THERE!
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Originally Posted by bigfish55 View Post
I do not know for sure if the DEF fluid is his challenge, but it is a BIG OBSTACLE. My diesel truck burns about 5 gallons of DEF fluid every 10,000 miles. That means i have to pony up almost 15.00 dollars every 10,000 miles. That means in the first 100,000 miles of ownership i will have spent 150.00 dollars on DEF fluid. It is a nightmare! i wish someone had warned me before i bought a cummins!

What? 15.00 dollars every 10K is a big deal mister! You think i am made of money?
Just wait till you spend $4k having the system baked off at 100k miles
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Apparently. Guess I'm not alone. Been trying to lock in a local f350 2020 gas crew cab, 4x4, 7.3L, 4.30... no dealerships down here have one even available to drive with that engine and rear end combo much less available for sale. Going f350 over f250 for the payload. After hooking up a trailer that payload gets surprisingly tight on the 250.
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Apparently. Guess I'm not alone. Been trying to lock in a local f350 2020 gas crew cab, 4x4, 7.3L, 4.30... no dealerships down here have one even available to drive with that engine and rear end combo much less available for sale. Going f350 over f250 for the payload. After hooking up a trailer that payload gets surprisingly tight on the 250.
That combo is not available on a single rear wheel F-350 Crew.

Available on single rear wheel SuperCab or dual rear wheel Crew.
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Originally Posted by aFORDable View Post
That combo is not available on a single rear wheel F-350 Crew.

Available on single rear wheel SuperCab or dual rear wheel Crew.
Itís available in both the F250 and F350 SRW. Iíve seen both on lots in XLT and XL trim. Costs $390 for the 4:30 over the stock rear which is 3:55 for the 250 and 3:73 in the 350.

Iím actually working on ordering one with the same combo in a Platinum trim.
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Originally Posted by saltydog235 View Post
Itís available in both the F250 and F350 SRW. Iíve seen both on lots in XLT and XL trim. Costs $390 for the 4:30 over the stock rear which is 3:55 for the 250 and 3:73 in the 350.

Iím actually working on ordering one with the same combo in a Platinum trim.
My bad. I miss read the foot notes.
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Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
Apparently. Guess I'm not alone. Been trying to lock in a local f350 2020 gas crew cab, 4x4, 7.3L, 4.30... no dealerships down here have one even available to drive with that engine and rear end combo much less available for sale. Going f350 over f250 for the payload. After hooking up a trailer that payload gets surprisingly tight on the 250.
I should have know to double check my info before posting.

I found 2 at Ford of Kendall in Miami.
4 at Walker Ford, Clearwater.

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