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Old 01-30-2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
Trying to figure out if a 3/4 ton diesel would be alright sitting with short trips. Boat ramps within 10 miles. Boat's too wide to trailer to the Keys, so I'd really only be towing it locally. I'd rather go gas, that truck you sold the Ram 2500 6.4L has come up on my vehicle searches a few times.
How wide. Not that it’s fine to do it but I see plenty of boats going to the keys that are probably to wide also.
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Beam is 10'3". Have been stopped on the way down there before while towing a boat, those guys are thorough and don't want to be outside of code.

I'll check out the the '07 and up, any specific model to look for? Assuming the newer engines 6.0 and 6.2L are as reliable, would prefer as new a vehicle as possible.
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I have a 2013 silverado 2500HD for sale with 6.0 gas. Crew Cab 4x4 long bed. Would be perfect for that weight
. I towed all the time, it pulls really nice with long wheel base. Rebuilt trans with 20k on it.
$10,500. PM me if interested
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Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
Beam is 10'3". Have been stopped on the way down there before while towing a boat, those guys are thorough and don't want to be outside of code.

I'll check out the the '07 and up, any specific model to look for? Assuming the newer engines 6.0 and 6.2L are as reliable, would prefer as new a vehicle as possible.
While I was being checked for brakes (I'm good), they dropped a plum bob on another boater. He was definitely over, 28' Southport. I could hear it getting louder.
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Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
Beam is 10'3". Have been stopped on the way down there before while towing a boat, those guys are thorough and don't want to be outside of code.

I'll check out the the '07 and up, any specific model to look for? Assuming the newer engines 6.0 and 6.2L are as reliable, would prefer as new a vehicle as possible.
should just be some permits/flags. Not that cumbersome if it’s something you desire to do.
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I bought a 2013 E350 Ford Van to pull my 11 k lbs rig same application short hauls to ramp. The 1 ton is only rated to 7500 lbs specification . But the chasis is solid and I have electric over Hydraulic brakes on my trailer. I just made the one time haul to North Carolina from Long Island with said , handled it with no problem with its 5.4 L , v-8 . I'm not saying its a good idea to haul over spec but I think its overkill to say you need a 8.1 L gasser or a diesel . For one thing Diesels need to be run they don't take well to sitting. ( 2500 suburban would be OK if you asked me check #'s , like my Van the Suburban most likely has the same chassis as the Pick ups ) A 6 liter gas motor will handle it just check the axle rating mine is 10 k pounds with a 3.73 rear. -60's Eldorado with a big block- was that a front wheel drive? I had a 71 fleetwood 472 Cubic inch , got it for $400 used to cruise @ 100 mph down ocean pkwy, took about 5 minutes to get there. But the monster would hold the road with ease.Before I get roasted Ocean Pkwy at night was desolate.
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:42 PM
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A Ford F250 or F350 with the 6.2 gas (preferably with the 4.30 rear gears) or a Chevy/GMC 2500 or 3500 with the 6.0 gas is what I would be looking at. Both of those platforms are very reliable and would be plenty to handle what you're towing.
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2500 gas are getting harder to locate unless you will travel, I am hunting one myself
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Thank you a ton for all the feedback. Dialing my search in to a 2008+ 6.2L, Crew cab, 4x4, leather with a 4.30 rear end, under 100k miles and under $25k. Barely any of these down south. Based on a preliminary search these aren't that easy to find.
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Originally Posted by jheiii View Post
Thank you a ton for all the feedback. Dialing my search in to a 2008+ 6.2L, Crew cab, 4x4, leather with a 4.30 rear end, under 100k miles and under $25k. Barely any of these down south. Based on a preliminary search these aren't that easy to find.
An FYI, the 6.2 didn't come about till 2011 in the Fords. Prior to that, it was either the 6.8L V10 or the 5.4L V8. In a Ford, having leather is going to be at least Lariat trim unless it was added aftermarket which is going to increase the value. The leather requirement is going to make that very difficult, if not impossible to find.
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Florida is not exactly a 4X4 haven, for sure.

Check a little further north, but not as far as the rust belt.



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Not trying to be that guy, but it should be 8.1 or nothing when it comes to gas motors. I have a 2003 Suburban, 8.1, 4x4 and loaded. All power, entertainment, leather, sunroof, etc and I wouldn't tow with anything else.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg86 View Post
Not trying to be that guy, but it should be 8.1 or nothing when it comes to gas motors. I have a 2003 Suburban, 8.1, 4x4 and loaded. All power, entertainment, leather, sunroof, etc and I wouldn't tow with anything else.
i have ran 4500 and 5500 trucks with the 8.1 and was impressed. We are thinking about upgrading our slide in camper rig to a dually so we could haul boat at same time. and I came across a 2004 with the 8.1. When I googled performance specs, the older version of the 8.1 was less torque than the next gen 6.0. It doesnt make sense, maybe the internet was wrong. Does that make sense to you?
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My 6.2ford has no problem with that kind of load but I think you are stuck with 2011 and newer. I have to believe an xlt could be had for high teens. Mines an xlt and can’t se it being worth much more.
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i have ran 4500 and 5500 trucks with the 8.1 and was impressed. We are thinking about upgrading our slide in camper rig to a dually so we could haul boat at same time. and I came across a 2004 with the 8.1. When I googled performance specs, the older version of the 8.1 was less torque than the next gen 6.0. It doesnt make sense, maybe the internet was wrong. Does that make sense to you?
The new 6.0 may make a little more HP and Torque, but it's higher up in the RPMs as well. I know you can't compare the new 6.0 to the 8.1, it's not apples to apples. The technology has changed so much and the newer trucks have more gears in the transmission, but for a price point workhorse, the 8.1 is hard to beat. A simple reprogram of the computer in the 8.1 and you're making more power and way more torque than the 6.0 and still turning lower RPMs.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg86 View Post
The new 6.0 may make a little more HP and Torque, but it's higher up in the RPMs as well. I know you can't compare the new 6.0 to the 8.1, it's not apples to apples. The technology has changed so much and the newer trucks have more gears in the transmission, but for a price point workhorse, the 8.1 is hard to beat. A simple reprogram of the computer in the 8.1 and you're making more power and way more torque than the 6.0 and still turning lower RPMs.
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[QUOTE=Codycat;13319044. When I googled performance specs, the older version of the 8.1 was less torque than the next gen 6.0. It doesnt make sense, maybe the internet was wrong. Does that make sense to you?[/QUOTE]


I've just done a lot of research on Specifications as I just made a long Haul. I hear Saltydawg86's reasoning that the Transmissions and computers are making up some of the differences but I still have to wonder Is My Ram 05 -395 HP - spec's that much different then the new Rams or is it marketing ploy?

So My Dodge Ram 2005 1500 5.7 towing cap = under 5k Lbs ---- 2020 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 tow cap = Over 7.5 k Lbs- Thats a 50% mark up somethings a squew. Can't say its all trans and computer , Again I think they were just over cautious and Now more accurate in a design to sell more via higher tow #'s

I wound up getting a new work truck , one with spec's closer to my towing needs. I have a 25 CC gross trailer weight is 10-11k lbs. My one ton 2013 ford E350 5.4 L ( 3:73 rear ) spec's were below whats needed 7,800 lbs, but it handled the job with No problems , 650 mile run from Long Island to deep North carolina. Of course trailer has electric over hydraulic brakes which I made sure worked flawlessly. So Questioning spec's and received different feed back to what spec's actually mean. Some Said spec's are a rating for Max towing under all conditions, Hills etc. So My 650 mile trek was flat and did not over tax the trans or V-8 even though I was towing over weight of spec's. And I kept it right about 60 mph , Van has Trans cooler package

So I'm thinking Maybe I should be using my 05 Dodge to pull the boat , now just short hauls, to the local Ramp. Got 4WD. almost twice spec's though.

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I was in the same situation, I have a company car so the truck sits in the driveway 95% of the time, bought an 04 F250 V10, Crew cab, 4x4, Lariat, 143K miles for 13K. Probably overpaid a little but it is in mint condition so worth it to me. I cant justify spending much more for something I drove 2K miles last year.


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My Yukon XL 2500 was on sale on here for a year. I towed 12K with it coast to coast, never a hiccup. Just sold it.....

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