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Old 01-15-2020, 08:22 AM
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Looking for a dealer willing to deal on new CR-V or Outback within a one day drive from Mobile, AL. Cash, no trade-in buyer looking for bells and whistles.
Old 01-15-2020, 12:03 PM
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I know several people who have bought Subaru's from Stiver Subaru in Decatur, GA and they have been very happy. I drive by the dealership quite a bit and they have a bunch of them. About 5 hours from Mobile.
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Thank you for the tip.
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I just bought a Outback from Montgomery Subaru. I thought they treated me fairly.
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I was ready to pull the trigger on a Honda last August. Came home after test drive w/wife and pulled up Autotrade. Found an '18 w/2800 miles. Saved $9K. Just saying...might be worth a look. Good luck!
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We also just picked up a new Outback from Montgomery Subaru. They beat both of our local dealers and we didn’t have to deal with the back and forth.
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Why don't you check out Long-Lewis Honda in Selma, Alabama? The dealership owner lives in Muscle Shoals, and his home Ford store is #1 in Customer Satisfaction of all U.S. Ford dealerships year after year. He's very dominant in the retail market too. They don't charge any add on's or Documentary Fees and all salesmen are salaried--not paid commission.
Old 01-16-2020, 07:18 AM
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Wow, great responses. Nice to know some dealers in Alabama are willing to deal.
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Originally Posted by Butch Davis View Post
Wow, great responses. Nice to know some dealers in Alabama are willing to deal.
Hey Butch
Be careful with a newer CR-V. I realize your in a warm weather state but people down south still had issues. I had a 2018 with bad oil dilutions issues in cool and cold weather. Long story short went the lemon law route, dealer worked with me and I got a 2019 Pilot. This is a known problem, Honda did come out with a fix but hardware and firmware but that did not do the trick on mine.

https://www.lemonlaw.com/wordpress/h...MaAiXfEALw_wcB
https://www.wardsauto.com/engines/ho...lution-problem
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Good to hear from you and thanks for the tip. As you'd guess from my question I'm undecided between the CR-V and Outback. We have an old Mercury Milan with low miles but figure it will start being unreliable sooner rather than later. Our 190 Montauk is for sale so that will leave us with only the 13 Sport so either of the SUVs under consideration can tow the 13 easily. We like the Forester but it is under powered, IMO. If the Forester gets a turbo for 2021 it will probably be the winner assuming our Milan is still chugging along.

I hope and expect Honda has corrected the "making oil" problem at the plant level but certainly will not buy one if any doubt remains when the day comes.



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Outbacks are very underrated imho. We have an 06 mint with 48k on the clock. I literally bought it from old lady who drove it to church on Sundays - couldn't get $ out of my pocket fast enough. Have had many offers to sell but it's worth way more to me sitting in my driveway than the $4k book value.

Anyway...not sure the distance but I often find the dealers around Washington DC, particularly Koons dealerships, to have buy prices worth driving for.
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I remember the Koon's family of dealerships from when we were assigned in the DC area 26 years ago. Washington area is a bit far for me to go but thanks for your thoughts.
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Lazlo - Looked into the oil dilution problem a bit and saw the reported problem numbers for 2019 were way down from 2018. I hope the 2020 numbers are very low. If so, I'll probably be willing to take a chance.

The way Honda has dealt with the problem has not been awe inspiring.
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Originally Posted by Butch Davis View Post
Lazlo - Looked into the oil dilution problem a bit and saw the reported problem numbers for 2019 were way down from 2018. I hope the 2020 numbers are very low. If so, I'll probably be willing to take a chance.

The way Honda has dealt with the problem has not been awe inspiring.
The newest model of the CRV's are not getting the best press. It's said that the sound levels inside are very high, and the 1.5 engine woes are of great concern to me. You're right about Honda not being the most accommodating of companies.

Subaru's have owners that are sold on them, but they're a second tier auto manufacturer and most are sold in Snow Country. In the south, dealers are few and far between, and we seldom even see any Subaru's locally.

The very hottest small SUV in the retail market is the Toyota RAV-4, especially the Hybrid version. I have that same engine in my Camry Hybrid, and it's quite quick while giving 49 mpg in town or on the open road. The RAV-4 has stepped up as Toyota's largest selling vehicle--knocking out Corolla. And they're especially good vehicles. Toyota dealers are also easier to find and are in all retail markets. Honda dealers are not so numerous.
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You're right about the scarcity of Subaru Dealers. We are in Gulf Shores, AL and our nearest dealers are in Mobile, AL and Pensacola, FL. I could use either for warranty service and I use independent shops for routine maintenance. Over the past 15 years I've had so little need for warranty work that dealer distance is not a major concern. As to buying, I'll travel up to 500 miles for the right out-the-door price. Here we see dozens of Subarus, mostly Foresters and Outbacks. We have thousands of Snowbirds now and some of the Subarus have out of state plates but I'd guess more than half are locals.

I'm not wild about the RAV4. Poor ride and handling are not a plus. Reliability is probably their best point.

As with any car purchase a test ride is essential. I dislike road noise so will be paying particular attention to that when driving a CR-V. Ultimately this vehicle will be my wife's and she will make the final decision with, I hope, my highly valuable input.

Thanks for your insights.
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Originally Posted by Butch Davis View Post
Good to hear from you and thanks for the tip. As you'd guess from my question I'm undecided between the CR-V and Outback. We have an old Mercury Milan with low miles but figure it will start being unreliable sooner rather than later. Our 190 Montauk is for sale so that will leave us with only the 13 Sport so either of the SUVs under consideration can tow the 13 easily. We like the Forester but it is under powered, IMO. If the Forester gets a turbo for 2021 it will probably be the winner assuming our Milan is still chugging along.

I hope and expect Honda has corrected the "making oil" problem at the plant level but certainly will not buy one if any doubt remains when the day comes.
Another possible option is the Honda Passport. Its basically the same interior as my pilot, just a little shorter. I know a ton of people who drive Subaru and love them. You can't really go wrong with either, I would just be a leary of the 2018-19-20 CR-V.
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Thanks, I'll check out the Passport.
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Impressed by the Passport. Towing capacity up to 5K and AWD available! Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Butch Davis View Post
Impressed by the Passport. Towing capacity up to 5K and AWD available! Thanks again.
Thats Great. To tell you the truth if the Passport would have come out 3 months before it did I would have bought it. I don't have any need for the third row seats in my Pilot. The Pilot and Passport are almost identical except for size and a few other minor things
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Let us know what you end up with

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