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Default New Ford Super Duty 10 speeds

I believe GM really dropped the ball not going with a 10 speed tranny for the new 6.6l gas motor so it looks like I will be going with a new Ford F-350 gasser.

I am undecided between the Ford 6.2l and 7.3l. As I currently drive a diesel I am tempted by the 7.3l but cannot find any mpg numbers on the new 10 speeds.

Anyone actually own one of these Super Dutyís yet?

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Iíd buy the 7.3L and deal with it. Itís a beast. Youíve got 3/4 choices of rear end and 4 drive modes. Put it in Eco if youíre not pulling and get 15-17mpg and be happy or normal and 14-16. After driving one, no way Iíd go with the 6.2, it feels gutless in comparison.

Iím seriously considering getting rid of my diesel for one. Less cost in fuel and maintenance and enough to pull anything I want.
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Originally Posted by saltydog235 View Post
Iíd buy the 7.3L and deal with it. Itís a beast. Youíve got 3/4 choices of rear end and 4 drive modes. Put it in Eco if youíre not pulling and get 15-17mpg and be happy or normal and 14-16. After driving one, no way Iíd go with the 6.2, it feels gutless in comparison.

Iím seriously considering getting rid of my diesel for one. Less cost in fuel and maintenance and enough to pull anything I want.
Where are you getting these numbers from?
Do you own one of the new ford gas 10 speed Superdutys?

I have test driven both the 6.2 and the 7.3, love the various drive modes. A brief test drive does not give me real confidence in the mpg numbers...
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Jeezus Bill. Enough 3 new threads a week obsessing about this and that already. 10 speed, srw, 6.6 vs 7.3, blah blah blah. If youíre gonna buy a new truck, put on your big boy britches and go do it! Lol
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Originally Posted by andyp262 View Post
Jeezus Bill. Enough 3 new threads a week obsessing about this and that already. 10 speed, srw, 6.6 vs 7.3, blah blah blah. If youíre gonna buy a new truck, put on your big boy britches and go do it! Lol
Unlike some folks here, i donít buy new trucks every year. Iím a buy and hold kind of Guy when it comes to vehicles, and want to learn as much as i can about these new platforms before I drop $60k.
You donít have to read threads if they donít interest you...

Thx, Bill
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
I believe GM really dropped the ball not going with a 10 speed tranny for the new 6.6l gas motor so it looks like I will be going with a new Ford F-350 gasser.

I am undecided between the Ford 6.2l and 7.3l. As I currently drive a diesel I am tempted by the 7.3l but cannot find any mpg numbers on the new 10 speeds.

Anyone actually own one of these Super Dutyís yet?

Thx, Bill
2020 F-250 diesel. At this point I have no clue why someone would buy a new HD gasser. Only buying gas trucks if they are 1/2 tons.
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Unlike some folks here, i donít buy new trucks every year.

Thx, Bill
You must not drive them very much either if you want to buy another Ford.
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Originally Posted by SharkSugar View Post
2020 F-250 diesel. At this point I have no clue why someone would buy a new HD gasser. Only buying gas trucks if they are 1/2 tons.
I need payload more than i need tow capacity-so gas is a better option for my use.
Have been driving diesel for 15 years now, had enough of DEF, re-gens, etc.
Looking forward to going back to gas.
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Originally Posted by SharkSugar View Post
2020 F-250 diesel. At this point I have no clue why someone would buy a new HD gasser. Only buying gas trucks if they are 1/2 tons.
Almost $11K for an engine, $0.40-$0.50 more per gallon for fuel, maintenance and fuel mileage isnít significantly better. Takes a whole lot of miles to recoup the delta. If you tow all the time, drive a lot and need it then fine, if not itís just an expense. Itís America though, do what you want. Iíve owned diesels for almost 30yrs, tow all the time and heavier than 1/2 tons can do but diesels just donít make that much sense to me even though I love the power. They arenít designed for the longevity they use to have either. I think I figured it up to be something like 330K miles to break even, Iím not putting that many miles on a truck before getting a new one.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
You must not drive them very much either if you want to buy another Ford.
Have been driving GM for 30 years. If I was staying with diesel, it would def be another DuraMax/Allison, but I am not thrilled about the new GM gasser.
I do not drive a lot, 10k-12k miles/yr. Mainly towing and hauling, truck is not really my DD.
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Have been driving GM for 30 years. If I was staying with diesel, it would def be another DuraMax/Allison, but I am not thrilled about the new GM gasser.
I do not drive a lot, 10k-12k miles/yr. Mainly towing and hauling, truck is not really my DD.
I was just yanking your chain.
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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
Unlike some folks here, i donít buy new trucks every year. Iím a buy and hold kind of Guy when it comes to vehicles, and a want to learn as much as i can about these new platforms before I drop $60k.
You donít have to read threads if they donít interest you...

Thx, Bill
Well now that you put it that way. Lol.

The only PROVEN gas power train is the Ram. Unless youíre willing to wait a year or two for the manufacturer to work the bugs out, there is no way Iíd consider GM or Ford
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Well now that you put it that way. Lol.

The only PROVEN gas power train is the Ram. Unless youíre willing to wait a year or two for the manufacturer to work the bugs out, there is no way Iíd consider GM or Ford
If you want a bulletproof transmission, go with the Ram. That 8speed has been around a long time in lots of high end vehicles and it is as perfect as perfect gets.
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The Ram 6.4l with 8 speed is a very nice ride, smooth shifting, and the Hemi really screams. It is on my short list.

I would argue however, that the Ford 6.2l has been around a long time and is a well proven engine. The new 10 speed is also very smooth and the various drive modes are interesting.

As these are both very new powertrains, there is little info on real world performance yet.

As there are no incentives this month on any of these trucks, I will likely wait until Presidents’ Day, I expect they will all have some offers then. Gives me a couple more weeks to gather data.

Thx, bill
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It would be a gamble to take the new untested 7.3, but if you opt for the 6.2 and the 7.3 turns out to be the best engine ever, how would you feel?


Resale/trade in value years down the road?




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Ram wise, don't you have to burn mid or high test fuel in the 6.4? (That's a deal killer right there for me. If I'm going to buy anything other than regular, then might as well go to a diesel or I'll stay with a 1/2 GM and get the 6.2)

NO WAY I'd buy a 6.2 Ford, I know it's a well tested motor and millions with ALOT of miles on the roads. But I'm just past the point of refusal with Ford OHC motors in trucks after the wifes two 5.4 3v Expeds! I can't imagine the 7.3/10spd being more than 1-2mpg behind the 6.2 when unloaded. (If that much!) And once the load is piled on I can see the 7.3/10spd actually besting the 6.2 mileage wise. If the 7.3 gets anything north of 14-15mpg while empty on the highway at 75+ then I think that's AWESOME economy for that kind of milk jug piston mill.

As for the 6.6 GM, I want to drive one. I honestly was hoping for a big block like Ford did with the 7.3. But I know the 6.0 was bulletproof but in most cases only "adequate to wanting" so maybe the extra umpf of the 6.6 will satisfy those of us not wanting oil burning HD trucks. I actually consider a 6spd PLENTY enough gears in a truck slushbox so I'm fine with that and Lord knows the GM 6spd is WELL proven and dependable! There's no AFM and fancy dan crap on the 6.6 so I think that motor won't require 2-3 model years to work the bugs out of like most new mills would require.
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And, how much money, over the life of the truck, is a few miles per gallon difference?


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Originally Posted by BillTex View Post
The Ram 6.4l with 8 speed is a very nice ride, smooth shifting, and the Hemi really screams. It is on my short list.

I would argue however, that the Ford 6.2l has been around a long time and is a well proven engine. The new 10 speed is also very smooth and the various drive modes are interesting.

As these are both very new powertrains, there is little info on real world performance yet.

As there are no incentives this month on any of these trucks, I will likely wait until Presidentsí Day, I expect they will all have some offers then. Gives me a couple more weeks to gather data.

Thx, bill
I own the 10 speed in my personal truck. Have the 8 speed in my company truck. There is no comparison. The 8 speed is better, by a large margin.
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You must not drive them very much either if you want to buy another Ford.
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Originally Posted by kawakx125;13267701[b
]If you want a bulletproof transmission, go with the Ram[/b]. That 8speed has been around a long time in lots of high end vehicles and it is as perfect as perfect gets.

First time these words have ever been spoken

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