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Old 10-20-2019, 12:18 PM
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Anyone have luck with them or any issues with durability? Just bought a new Ameritrail for our bay boat with fancy black wheels which I was not anticipating having but it was on the lot and fit the bill. I was installing the spare tire assembly with hub and spindle earlier and when I went to put the tire on it, I realized that you can’t get a regular impact socket on it. I then went to look at the other wheels and realized the same thing. No way to really get to the lugs, even though the ones that came on the trailer are full length lug nuts that are capped on then end. Either way, I cant get a regular impact socket on them either.


Any solution to this or can extended lug nuts be used? Using a 13/16” socket from HF now.
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Old 10-20-2019, 12:19 PM
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Just use a normal chrome socket. Over never broken one except busting off lugs that a chain tire store cross threaded
Old 10-20-2019, 12:24 PM
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Any of the sets from Harbor Freight, Pittsburgh brand is pretty decent lifetime warranty, I have a set that has been great.
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Originally Posted by MacCTD View Post
Any of the sets from Harbor Freight, Pittsburgh brand is pretty decent lifetime warranty, I have a set that has been great.
same with me, I got it on sale, I use it, I changed 2 tires with them. No complaints
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Get the thin walled impact socket at Napa. I had to call Ameritrail to figure out what to get.
Also, be carefull with the fenders. They are sharp as hell and had to get 6 stiches the first time I did trailer work
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Assumed I could use lug wrench on AT mag wheels. No dice. Thin wall 13/16” was all that would fit. Go to remove spare and the lugs were 3/4”.

Why in the hell would they use 13/16” lugs on the axles and 3/4” lugs on the spare? Silly.
Old 10-21-2019, 04:56 AM
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I always take them off and put 3/4 lug nuts on. EZPZ
Old 10-21-2019, 05:39 AM
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They shouldn't be tight enough to be a problem.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
They shouldn't be tight enough to be a problem.

I can’t remove any of them so if I get a flat, it would be a problem. Il check Napa.
Old 10-21-2019, 06:10 AM
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Mac impact sockets have a thinner wall. They also make a "Power socket' with thinner wall.
Or they did it has been a few years since I have purchased them.

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SnapOn 6 point chrome have worked very well for me on mags
Old 10-21-2019, 06:25 AM
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Are you sure they aren't spline drive lug nuts and you just need an adapter?
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I lived through this exact problem with an Ameritrail I bought from a previous owner. My working hypothesis is that a trailer shop put 13/16ths on my wheels instead of 3/4 which actually fit.

Get the flip socket set from Husky at Home Depot. Use the 13/16 socket (or a metric equivalent that works) to remove the current lugs. Some light tapping with a mallet may be required. Then replace lugs with 3/4 all around.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-1-...WIFS/204761486

Here are the 3/4 lugs I used to replace the 13/16th I (eventually) got off:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMJNXOE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMJNXOE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Relive my misery here:

Help me find an impact socket for trailer wheel lugs
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
They shouldn't be tight enough to be a problem.
I totally agree with this. Never had an issue getting any lug nuts off of my truck or trailer with a simple lug nut wrench. Wonder how tight these guys are putting on the lug nuts to begin with.
I use a little anti-seize on the studs and torque them to 85 ft pounds.
Even with just a simple lug nut wrench I can apply over 200 ft lbs of torque or more but never have to.
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I got a heavy duty 4- way lug wrench and ground the one that fits the lugs so it would go in without scratching the wheels on our 5th wheel.
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Originally Posted by D_Westie View Post
I totally agree with this. Never had an issue getting any lug nuts off of my truck or trailer with a simple lug nut wrench. Wonder how tight these guys are putting on the lug nuts to begin with.
I use a little anti-seize on the studs and torque them to 85 ft pounds.
Even with just a simple lug nut wrench I can apply over 200 ft lbs of torque or more but never have to.
The issue is NOT tightness, its the size of the tool compared to the size of the hole for the tool. Thus, needing a thin-walled socket.
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Originally Posted by Venmous28 View Post
The issue is NOT tightness, its the size of the tool compared to the size of the hole for the tool. Thus, needing a thin-walled socket.
A thin wall socket and breaker bar should be overkill if properly installed.
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Big difference between a thin walled socket and a impact socket.
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
A thin wall socket and breaker bar should be overkill if properly installed.
Some wheels don't allow a regular socket to fit the lug nut needed. It doesn't matter what the socket is attached to. If it doesn't fit, you can't use it.
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Originally Posted by D_Westie View Post
I totally agree with this. Never had an issue getting any lug nuts off of my truck or trailer with a simple lug nut wrench. Wonder how tight these guys are putting on the lug nuts to begin with.
I use a little anti-seize on the studs and torque them to 85 ft pounds.
Even with just a simple lug nut wrench I can apply over 200 ft lbs of torque or more but never have to.

These are "custom wheels" and lug nuts. It has nothing to do with a 800 pound gorilla installing. I discovered this issue during my 1 year trailer maintenance. I wanted to pull the wheels off to apply anti seize and check out the condition of the hubs. Turned into a 3 day project lol.
For the record, Ameritrail had put anti seize on them at the factory and once I located the correct socket it was a quick maintenance session.

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