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Old 10-10-2019, 04:43 AM
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Doing some research I can basically get a F250 XLT for the same $ as a RAM 2500 Lone Star/Big Horn. Talking about gas crew cab 4X4s. I have owned both in Diesel and both have pros and cons. I would like hear more about the gas experience and will be towing around 9k a couple times a month on flat ground.
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Both will be fine in my humble opinion but Ford gasser would get the nod in my book. My wife is a longtime Dodge customer and their products always seem to come up just little short in the SUV market..
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I personally see ZERO reason to have a diesel unless you tow a lot of weight and for a lot of time. Once or twice a month doesn't justify the cost of fuel, maintenance or upkeep on a diesel. even though you'll burn more fuel with a gas towing, it all comes out in the wash after its all said and done. If not coming out further ahead.

The XLT version of the 250 is also basically a basic package. The Lonestar is a higher end package on the Ram. I'd go with the Ram. I just hate those huge ass mirrors on the Ram. I have a 2013 2500 and made sure it didn't have those ridiculous tow mirrors
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Try to find an STX F250, it will give you the large dash screen in a base trim model. Only regret I have in buying my F250, otherwise I love the truck.
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Out of those two, Ford all day long.

If you want a better unloaded ride that can still handle that weight with ease, GM specifically for the independent front suspension.
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Originally Posted by simeoncoleman View Post
I personally see ZERO reason to have a diesel unless you tow a lot of weight and for a lot of time. Once or twice a month doesn't justify the cost of fuel, maintenance or upkeep on a diesel. even though you'll burn more fuel with a gas towing, it all comes out in the wash after its all said and done. If not coming out further ahead.

The XLT version of the 250 is also basically a basic package. The Lonestar is a higher end package on the Ram. I'd go with the Ram. I just hate those huge ass mirrors on the Ram. I have a 2013 2500 and made sure it didn't have those ridiculous tow mirrors
If it all turns out to be a wash at the end, why not buy the one that is better at doing the job? Diesels IMO are just far more pleasant to tow with, especially at highway speeds.
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I'd wait for the new motor and 10 spd in the ford coming in the 2020 model year personally
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XLT can be anything from pretty basic to pretty trimmed out. There are lots of levels of XLT. I have a pretty basic XLT 2018 4x4 CC with the 6.2 w/ 3:73 rear end. It has noticeably more power over my buddy's 2018 Ram 2500 with the 6.4.. His Ram is the super high end version and it does ride smoother than my Ford, I'm not sure if that has to do with the trim level difference or not though.

I tow about 10,000 pounds at least once a week in Florida which is of course flat. The truck pulls the boat just fine. Not as easily as a Diesel obviously would but for once a week I don't need to deal with all the other things that come with a Diesel. I spend 90% of my time NOT towing 10k lbs so for the 10% of the time that the Diesel works marginally better the gas just makes sense FOR ME.

Though you might want to see what the 7.3 gas engine from Ford does because that may be best of both worlds.
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I would go Ram, Ford is getting a bit dated and XLT is thin on features.
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If it all turns out to be a wash at the end, why not buy the one that is better at doing the job? Diesels IMO are just far more pleasant to tow with, especially at highway speeds.
I mis-spoke. Gas engines are better in the long run imo. Especially when it comes time to fix them. I was speaking in terms of fuel mileage towing. Versus the cost of the diesel engine.
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As others have mentioned, wait to see the new 7.3 gas in the Ford.

You could still choose a 6.4 Ram or a leftover 6.2 F250 if the new 7.3 isn't right for you.
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To me the Ram was a much nicer ride. The Ram interior is also better when comparing the big horn to the xlt. The 6.2 is a nice engine, and honestly like it better than the 6.4 hemi. Ford was a wonderer on the high way, dead steering and drifted . Ram was much truer to the line I was trying to hold.

To me the engine in the ford is much better, the Ram wins out in all other areas. But I ended up with the Ram 2500 CTD, I don't tow as often anymore and use the truck as a daily driver. No issues yet over 9k miles, just did the oil change which cost me... $40.00. The .30 cents per gallon does add up, but I am pulling a consistent 24mpg on the highway and 18+ on the back roads. Hand calculated. So there's that.
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As others have mentioned, wait to see the new 7.3 gas in the Ford.

You could still choose a 6.4 Ram or a leftover 6.2 F250 if the new 7.3 isn't right for you.
The 6.2 will still be available in 2020 but without the 10speed. The 7.3 was meant to be slotted between it and the 6.7ps
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To me the Ram was a much nicer ride. The Ram interior is also better when comparing the big horn to the xlt. The 6.2 is a nice engine, and honestly like it better than the 6.4 hemi. Ford was a wonderer on the high way, dead steering and drifted . Ram was much truer to the line I was trying to hold.

To me the engine in the ford is much better, the Ram wins out in all other areas. But I ended up with the Ram 2500 CTD, I don't tow as often anymore and use the truck as a daily driver. No issues yet over 9k miles, just did the oil change which cost me... $40.00. The .30 cents per gallon does add up, but I am pulling a consistent 24mpg on the highway and 18+ on the back roads. Hand calculated. So there's that.
life is too short to ponder cost per mile differences. drive what makes you happy. something that THT will berate you for, but if you like it, who cares lol. if you're doing your own maintenance on the diesel which you are, the differences are negligible
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I pull 9k with my 6.4 all over the place... been from Maine to Georgia and everywhere in between. Headed to the blue ridge mts this weekend.

5 people, dogs, firewood, bikes, camping gear...

Truck pulls just fine. Trans temp stays within 4 deg of unloaded temps. 9 MPG on the flats.

Pulls at 65 thru the rolling east coast mountains with no issues - but it gets thirsty in the hills.

why did I pick the Ram over the others? simple, price.
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Not sure the price for gas, but I did just pay $ 65K for a brand new 2019 F-250 diesel FX4 model. I ran the numbers and I saved more money by using diesel over gas. I generally trailer once every other week. My average mpg is 19 for highway and 15 mpg w/ trailer. The mpg for gas is 16 highway and 7 w/ trailer on my other new gas 250's. In 12 months the savings from the gas engine purchase were gone with the decreased gas mpg. Just my $ 0.02 as the value of a diesel is better than a gas when you go to trade in or sell in the future.
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Doing some research I can basically get a F250 XLT for the same $ as a RAM 2500 Lone Star/Big Horn. Talking about gas crew cab 4X4s. I have owned both in Diesel and both have pros and cons. I would like hear more about the gas experience and will be towing around 9k a couple times a month on flat ground.
Either truck will perform well for you. I run a 2500 Ram with 6.4 and it pulls anything my 6.7 Cummins will........................until I hit that 13% grade climbing the hill to my house. Then you can tell why the Cummins costs more.
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Originally Posted by ck_moniz View Post
To me the Ram was a much nicer ride. The Ram interior is also better when comparing the big horn to the xlt. The 6.2 is a nice engine, and honestly like it better than the 6.4 hemi. Ford was a wonderer on the high way, dead steering and drifted . Ram was much truer to the line I was trying to hold.

To me the engine in the ford is much better, the Ram wins out in all other areas. But I ended up with the Ram 2500 CTD, I don't tow as often anymore and use the truck as a daily driver. No issues yet over 9k miles, just did the oil change which cost me... $40.00. The .30 cents per gallon does add up, but I am pulling a consistent 24mpg on the highway and 18+ on the back roads. Hand calculated. So there's that.

To be clear, You have the 6.4 Hemi in a Ram 2500 and you're getting 24 on the highway and 18 city??????
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Thanks so far.. Just to be clear , I’ve had both a 6.7 CTD and a 6.7 PSD.. both great powerful platforms but had issues with both.. leave it at that.. no more diesel dailly comuters for me.. I know I want a gas. My Wife’s tundra has plenty of power to tow the boat.. I just want more ass under me. I’m looking at a mid 40s price point..
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The Ford 6.2 has proven to be a very reliable motor. They get worked hard in fleet vehicles and everyone seems to agree that they are very stout. I like the flat floor of the Ford cab better than the Ram. Both are good trucks but I think I would go with the Ford.
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