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Fixing to buy new suv/truck, and need opinions for towing/babyseat/large dog

Old 09-11-2019, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SalmonDaze View Post
Was looking to go back to a full-size truck a couple months ago, but have decided to keep my mid-size. The more I drive it, the more content I am. The Canyon/Colorado is perfect for a brat rack in the back seat, because the legroom is suitable for kids <10 years old. Our large dog does just fine in the bed. We do keep him on a short leash attached to a center hookpoint if on the expressway, but he's never been a dog to jump out of a moving vehicle. Couldn't bear it to have him jump that "one time" at high speed though. The leash allows him to stand but not enough to get out.
The biggest thing I have run into with them is trying to use a rear facing car seat in anything small. Especially if you have the need for 2 rear facing seats. We didn't plan it out that way, but 2 kids 15 months apart = a pair of rear facing seats. I'm 6' tall, and can't drive anything I've found smaller than a big cab full size truck or a Suburban/Expedition with a rear facing seat behind the drivers seat. Even in my Wife's pilot, it's not possible. Once they flip around and face forward, the options open up tremendously.
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Old 09-11-2019, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike09 View Post
No chance of you fitting a small horse of a dog, baby seat, stroller, diaper bag...and everything else you need in a mid size truck or suv. No question you need to buy a large suv. Don’t worry about parking. Least Of your worries!! Expedition,
tahoe and the like is the best option.
He was thinking of a mid size truck and putting a camper shell on it. More room that way than a regular suv. I had a ridgeline with a bed cover. With the bed cover and the in bed storage I could put the same if not more than a 08 tahoe I had. And that was with removing the 3rd row seats in the Tahoe. With then on there wasn’t much room left. Nice part was that at least they were removable.
Old 09-11-2019, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Still zero chance you are getting 19MPG towing it. Perhaps if you look at the optimistic fuel economy computer 10 minutes after hooking it up, but zero chance otherwise. Was in an infinity QX60 rental for a couple of weeks last month. Got 21-22 at best. Not towing.

And again.....it's a CVT. Towing with a CVT is asking for expensive repairs. 30K miles is hardly a test. Try putting 200-300K on one and tow with it.
I reset the trip meter as soon as I hook up every time. And I also hand calculate after the trip, so yes, I am in fact getting consistently 18-19mpg while towing. Not towing I usually get in the high 20's to 30 if I stay around 55-60mph

Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
you dont know much about cars/trucks or boats do you?
I'm not sure what would prompt you to say that... No reason for you to be an A$$
Old 09-11-2019, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by emartin00 View Post
I reset the trip meter as soon as I hook up every time. And I also hand calculate after the trip, so yes, I am in fact getting consistently 18-19mpg while towing. Not towing I usually get in the high 20's to 30 if I stay around 55-60mph
Strictly at low speeds? If not, that thing must have it's own oil refinery in the luggage compartment.
Old 09-11-2019, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Strictly at low speeds? If not, that thing must have it's own oil refinery in the luggage compartment.
65mph on the highway primarily.
Lower speeds and hilly areas it'll drop down to 15-16mpg
Old 09-11-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by emartin00 View Post
I reset the trip meter as soon as I hook up every time. And I also hand calculate after the trip, so yes, I am in fact getting consistently 18-19mpg while towing. Not towing I usually get in the high 20's to 30 if I stay around 55-60mph


I'm not sure what would prompt you to say that... No reason for you to be an A$$
not being an ass but lets look at your statements! does proline even build a 29ft? most any boaters would know that proline has been around for ever and actually built some fairly large boats well over 29ft. you also claim that you get 30mpg and 19 while towing with your vehicle. you also claim that you get better gas mileage while towing at higher speeds and it worsens as you slow down. again none of that makes any sense!

me thinks your math is not correct when calculating!
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
On them if you want the crazy good mileage, 4x2 with 3.08 gears will be the best. 4x4 will drop it slightly, but not anything significant if you need 4x4. Moving to the 3.42 gears, particularly with 4x4 will bring it down a decent amount, though the seat of the pants driving feel is much more spirited. If you aren't towing anything heavy, 3.08's are more than adequate. Good way to tell just by looking which it has is to look for it to have a factory trailer brake controller. Generally speaking, if it has a brake controller, it has the max-tow package, which includes the 3.42 gears. If it doesn't, almost guaranteed to be 3.08's, which is what you want if you are after fuel economy.
I've had somewhat of the opposite experience, granted much of my wifes driving is city, and we are talking 2 different years/body styles. But our 2010 3.08 only averaged 15 according to vehicle. The 2015 3.42 shows us 17.4 average, including all the idling she seems to do. Normally highway gets 21-23, and city in the 16-18 range.
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
not being an ass but lets look at your statements! does proline even build a 29ft? most any boaters would know that proline has been around for ever and actually built some fairly large boats well over 29ft. you also claim that you get 30mpg and 19 while towing with your vehicle. you also claim that you get better gas mileage while towing at higher speeds and it worsens as you slow down. again none of that makes any sense!

me thinks your math is not correct when calculating!
Excuse me for not knowing every boat ever made... I only care about boats that are under 25ft.
You're entitled to you're own opinion, but what I am saying about my gas mileage is a fact.
I'm a mechanical engineer, so I'm well aware of how vehicle efficiency changes with speed. The times I tow at lower speeds include more stop and go, so the mileage suffers. When I tow higher speeds, it is highway and a constant speed.
Now we've hijacked this thread more than enough, so lets drop it.
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I'm personally amazed a mechanical engineer would purchase a CVT.
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Originally Posted by 1720keywest View Post
I appreciate all the replies. My wife will be driving this 99% of the time, and does not like larger vehicles.

I think the midsize SUV will suffice. I found a Ridgline owners forum, and there are some there who do travel with dogs inside their bed with a topper. This does intrigue me, and I think we will need to test drive those as well.
The Ridgeline has a comfier cab than any of the other trucks, and is much more "driveable" than a large truck or SUV. I've seem people travel good distances with dogs in the back with a topper without any problems. While I wouldn't let the truck sit in the sun on a 90 degree day with a dog in the back, if you can be ok in the cab with the windows down and the AC off, then the bed will be fine for the dog.

I had a Chevy pickup, then a Ford, then a Honda Ridgeline, and then a Ram, so I can hopefully be somewhat unbiased.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
I'm personally amazed a mechanical engineer would purchase a CVT.
this!
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Originally Posted by emartin00 View Post
Excuse me for not knowing every boat ever made... I only care about boats that are under 25ft.
You're entitled to you're own opinion, but what I am saying about my gas mileage is a fact.
I'm a mechanical engineer, so I'm well aware of how vehicle efficiency changes with speed. The times I tow at lower speeds include more stop and go, so the mileage suffers. When I tow higher speeds, it is highway and a constant speed.
Now we've hijacked this thread more than enough, so lets drop it.

i would think you would know a little more about the boat company being that you own one, no?

Old 09-12-2019, 06:52 AM
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Your big dog may be able to jump onto a tailgate of a pickup now, but not necessarily when the dog is old. With a split seat rear seat SCREW, the dog can share the back seat or a portion of the floor with a raised split seat.

If if you go with a SUV you must go with a 3rd row version. You are going to need to carry a lot of bulky paraphernalia for a baby and you need the space. I don’t think you will have enough space with a midsized. If you have more children you are are really going to be squeezed. I suggest looking at an Expedition.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I drive an old 2002 Tacoma (240k miles and counting) and rented a Yukon 2.5 years ago in Colorado.

The Yukon handled much more nimbly than my truck and was MUCH easier to park, had a much smaller turning radius overall. I was surprised that something that huge could perform that well.

I would not be surprised if a Yukon/Suburban was easier to park than a 4runner.
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Originally Posted by 1720keywest View Post
Thanks for the comments. Typing this all out, convinced me more of a mid-size suv vs truck. I would rather have a 4Runner, but the mpg drops quite a bit.

I would like a tahoe, but the mpg is lower and its overall bigger which wont help with parking.

I guess putting the dog in the bed might be a little dangerous for him if we had to stop hard too.

If anyone is wondering if I will lose my mancard driving a Highlander, dont worry, I drive a minivan every day for work

It's totally your decision but let me put forth a couple of observations.

1. A Tahoe would probably get as good or better mpg as/than your current Tundra.
2. A Tahoe, with it's short wheelbase, will probably be easier to park than your Tundra. MUUUUCH easier.

Doesn't have to be a Tahoe either. My brother bought his wife a Sequoia and she loves that thing. I've driven it a few times including for a day last week while my brother borrowed my truck to tow his tractor to the "farm" so he could pull his truck out of the mud. Personally, I hate the Sequoia. It drives terrible (I call it the "twitch mobile") and the ergonomics are insanely poor (this from someone who never gave ergonomics 3 minutes of thought before driving the Sequoia the first time)... but is for sure is a nice, safe and capable vehicle with PLENTY of interior room for dogs and kids. Not sure what kind of mpg it gets but would think somewhere close to a Tundra (this one has the 5.7). It's certainly a heck of a lot easier to park and such than my 3/4 ton CC p/u.
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I've had a number of SUV's throughout the years, including Expeditions, Explorers, Lexus RX. I'd hate to think I had to travel very far with a Dane in the back seat. I hate taking my 134 pound Rottweiler anywhere as I have to lift her rear end to get her in my new Explorer. She's too wide (fat) to even get up into my F250 crew cab any longer.

What kind'a money you looking to spend? Have you seen what payments are on any Yukon in the low $50's? Try $1000 a month on normal terms. A $33K vehicle will run you $675 per month for 60 months. Any mid size SUV is going to be north of $40K right now.

The most vehicle for the money with plenty of room is a pickup truck with a topper on the rear. Of course, your wife is wanting something more comfortable to drive.

My suggestion is one of the most versatile vehicles around--MINI VAN. You can buy them a year or two old with low miles very low prices. They're just great vehicles for young families, especially families with Great Danes..
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The Ridgeline has a 60/40 split rear seat and a flat floor, so you have options there for carrying kid and dog both in the rear seat area.

If you don't want a Ridgeline, don't test-drive one, because then you'll want it.

Also FYI, the 2020 Ridgeline should be announced soon, because the 2019 model year has been out since March 2018. The 2020 will have fewer trims, a nine-speed trans, probably safety sensing on all trims, different infotainment, and probably a different front fascia. That being said, there are great deals on 2019s now, with some folks picking up loaded RTL-Es for $37k....i doubt you'll get any great deals on the 2020 unless the auto market tanks like everyone is predicting.

Regarding the nine-speed trans, it will probably tow better than the current six-speed trans, but will have higher maintenance costs. It is the same ZF9 used in FCA and Jaguar vehicles, but Honda has tweaked it for smoother shifts - test-drive a Passport to see if you like Honda's iteration of the trans. Shifts can feel a little strange as the trans incorporates two dog clutches along with the typical planetary gear setup. Honda's in-house 6AT is a better-sorted trans (probably best of mid-sized trucks), but probably not quite as strong as ZF's 9AT (probably won't make a difference with your limited towing).

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