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Old 06-16-2019, 09:28 AM
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I backed out of the F150 STX/FX4 Truck as I was not willing to pay what the dealer was asking. So I am down to these two Trucks. What are you guys paying as a percentage of the Msrp not including tax and all other fees. I test drove the Silverado and rented a Ram Bighorn last week but it was the 2019 Classic and not the new design.
Both Trucks I am looking at have a Msrp of 55k. Both have a good bit of options. The Silverado has leather the Ram cloth.

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Old 06-16-2019, 11:53 AM
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I'm looking at both as well, but leasing. My last 2 trucks were Silverados and I test drove a 19 Silverado RST last week. It was more powerful than my '16 and it seemed to sit a bit higher. I like the full center console you get with the buckets and all star pkg. Ill be driving a Ram Laramie tomorrow. It also has the full console, and just from looking inside the window, the interior looks "upgraded" over the Chevy. The Laramie pkg. gets you leather, LED's and blind spot warning and the sticker is just under $52K including navigation. More to follow....
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Old 06-16-2019, 12:44 PM
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I'm looking at both as well, but leasing. My last 2 trucks were Silverados and I test drove a 19 Silverado RST last week. It was more powerful than my '16 and it seemed to sit a bit higher. I like the full center console you get with the buckets and all star pkg. Ill be driving a Ram Laramie tomorrow. It also has the full console, and just from looking inside the window, the interior looks "upgraded" over the Chevy. The Laramie pkg. gets you leather, LED's and blind spot warning and the sticker is just under $52K including navigation. More to follow....
Yes, the Silverado did sit a bit high but I think bc its riding on 20 inch wheels that are 60 mm tall. As you said the Silverado did have some get up n go. I punched it a few times while test driving and was pleased with the response of the 5.3 eight speed tranny. It shifted very smooth and could not even tell the engine shut off at stop. let off brake and hit pedal with no lag time, none !

As of this writing we are at 41k out the door on the 19 Silverado RST Z71, Leather package, Heated seats, convenience package, safety package which included blind spot and cross traffic alert, spray in bedliner, etc etc. Dont think it had Nav but ill sync with IPhone so not an issue for me.
***Now, 41k includes my trade (07 Ridgeline) so, if I pull the trigger I am not stealing this Truck by no means but my research tells me I may be under a few thousand of what a lot of folks are paying.
( Excluding Taxes and fees but including a wholesale on my Honda im at about 75/76 percent of Msrp.
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Old 06-16-2019, 12:58 PM
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Yes, the Silverado did sit a bit high but I think bc its riding on 20 inch wheels that are 60 mm tall. As you said the Silverado did have some get up n go. I punched it a few times while test driving and was pleased with the response of the 5.3 eight speed tranny. It shifted very smooth and could not even tell the engine shut off at stop. let off brake and hit pedal with no lag time, none !

As of this writing we are at 41k out the door on the 19 Silverado RST Z71, Leather package, Heated seats, convenience package, safety package which included blind spot and cross traffic alert, spray in bedliner, etc etc. Dont think it had Nav but ill sync with IPhone so not an issue for me.
***Now, 41k includes my trade (07 Ridgeline) so, if I pull the trigger I am not stealing this Truck by no means but my research tells me I may be under a few thousand of what a lot of folks are paying.
( Excluding Taxes and fees but including a wholesale on my Honda im at about 75/76 percent of Msrp.
Nobody knows if you are "getting" 2K or 20K for your trade in, so putting down out the door numbers is a waste of time...
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:14 PM
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Holy cow! $55k msrp for a 1/2 ton truck with cloth seats??? Did I read that right? I paid $57k for my 2018 Ram 3500 Laramie Limited Cumins 4x4 with just 5k miles on it. It has every option except sunroof, which i didn't want.
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Nobody knows if you are "getting" 2K or 20K for your trade in, so putting down out the door numbers is a waste of time...
Re read my post. Wholesale on 2007 Rudgeline. Look it up.
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Old 06-16-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Striper4 View Post


Re read my post. Wholesale on 2007 Rudgeline. Look it up.
Sure, we all know it's options, condition, etc., and reasonable to expect that everyone that reads the post will make guesses on those and then look it up. Yup, you are on the right track with your expectations...
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Originally Posted by Striper4 View Post


Re read my post. Wholesale on 2007 Rudgeline. Look it up.
For everyone’s benefit and the hopes of helping other Truck buyers that don’t have an open checkbook. My wholesale is 4200-5400 per Kelley Blue book but Dealers seem to price lower. There first offer on trade was 3k whereby Ram dealer offered 5k.
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Originally Posted by Striper4 View Post


Re read my post. Wholesale on 2007 Rudgeline. Look it up.
For everyone’s benefit and the hopes of helping other Truck buyers that don’t have an open checkbook. My wholesale is 4200-5400 per Kelley Blue book but Dealers seem to price lower. There first offer on trade was 3k whereby Ram dealer offered 5k.

So depending upon how you look at trade 44/46k
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Personal or dealer finance?
Some sales managers will approve attractive deals to get you into the F&I office where they can improve their margin. Quoted finance rates are meaningless, the one only one that counts is the one you sign when you pick up the truck.
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Personal or dealer finance?
Some sales managers will approve attractive deals to get you into the F&I office where they can improve their margin. Quoted finance rates are meaningless, the one only one that counts is the one you sign when you pick up the truck.

UDATE !!! I have my own financing but could go with Dealer also,,, Just before I went to dinner with wife and daughter I called the salesman who I will not mention or the Dealership because I am not bashing them by no means. I told them to write up the paperwork and find the exact Truck in question as they had sold the one I wanted on their lot but said they could get another.

Salesman informed me he was all over it. I expected that by next week he would locate the exact Silverado and 41k plus my trade and we have a deal. I get a text back from him while I am at the restaurant stating the 41k was for the other day only. Now it has gone back up to 43k with my trade. (This was the original offer when I was at Dealership and walked) So I texted him back and said thanks but no thanks. This still may be a ok deal but it just rubbed me the wrong way so another Gm Dealership or Ram Dealership will most likely get my business.
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Ok Next Up:

2019 Ram Big Horn Crew Cab/4X4 Offroad/Hemi engine, 8.4 Uconnect, Blis, Tow/Trailer Pkg, Remote Start, Sport Appearance, decent options,,,

Msrp------------------55k
Dealer Price--------38,500 plus tax tag etc,,,

They are offering 5k sight unseen for my Ridgeline but Dealership is in Statesboro Ga. I dont think I have found any better pricing in North Florida on this particular Ram.
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Originally Posted by Striper4 View Post
Ok Next Up:

2019 Ram Big Horn Crew Cab/4X4 Offroad/Hemi engine, 8.4 Uconnect, Blis, Tow/Trailer Pkg, Remote Start, Sport Appearance, decent options,,,

Msrp------------------55k
Dealer Price--------38,500 plus tax tag etc,,,

They are offering 5k sight unseen for my Ridgeline but Dealership is in Statesboro Ga. I dont think I have found any better pricing in North Florida on this particular Ram.
This is what I have been seeing ^^ Local dealer is offering 18k off limited rams and 14k off the offroad rams. You can expect at least 15k off the sticker
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Striper4 View Post
Ok Next Up:

2019 Ram Big Horn Crew Cab/4X4 Offroad/Hemi engine, 8.4 Uconnect, Blis, Tow/Trailer Pkg, Remote Start, Sport Appearance, decent options,,,

Msrp------------------55k
Dealer Price--------38,500 plus tax tag etc,,,

They are offering 5k sight unseen for my Ridgeline but Dealership is in Statesboro Ga. I dont think I have found any better pricing in North Florida on this particular Ram.
u need to ck with Woody Folsom if u are going that far to trade.
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Originally Posted by Striper4 View Post
Ok Next Up:

2019 Ram Big Horn Crew Cab/4X4 Offroad/Hemi engine, 8.4 Uconnect, Blis, Tow/Trailer Pkg, Remote Start, Sport Appearance, decent options,,,

Msrp------------------55k
Dealer Price--------38,500 plus tax tag etc,,,

They are offering 5k sight unseen for my Ridgeline but Dealership is in Statesboro Ga. I dont think I have found any better pricing in North Florida on this particular Ram.
Coming from a Ridgeline, I'd pick the Ram.

That is not a slight on Honda or on Ram. I had a gen 1 Ridgeline prior to my Ram. Have had Chevys and Fords too, so I'm not really brand loyal.
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Unless you need a truck now I would wait for the 2020’s to hit the lot if you want the Chevy. They’ll be pairing the 10spd with the 5.3 in most trims. Seems there are way too many issues and quirks with the 8 spd for me to want a truck with that in it, especially with it being phased out. Just my opinion though. You’ll also be able to get the 6.2 in the RST for 2020 although that will carry the obvious couple grand premium.
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Ok , so now I have driven an RST and a Ram Laramie. The Ram is clearly better and I have had 2 Chevy's in a row. The Ram has a sticker that is $2000 more than the RST ( not much right ) and has Leather nav and 20inch wheels (these options are not on the RST I drove). To lease for the same terms, the Ram is $190.00 more PER MONTH. That's almost $7500 more over the term of the lease with just a $2000 sticker difference..... I have a month before my lease is up so I'm going to continue to search.
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Ok , so now I have driven an RST and a Ram Laramie. The Ram is clearly better and I have had 2 Chevy's in a row. The Ram has a sticker that is $2000 more than the RST ( not much right ) and has Leather nav and 20inch wheels (these options are not on the RST I drove). To lease for the same terms, the Ram is $190.00 more PER MONTH. That's almost $7500 more over the term of the lease with just a $2000 sticker difference..... I have a month before my lease is up so I'm going to continue to search.
please be sure your dealer explores lease sources, I just leased a Ram Limited, there were 3 leasing companies in play, large differences, rate, residual so make sure your dealer isn’t lazy and explores whats available, I think you can narrow that spread.
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So after searching around most of the week, I have found that the Ram leasing deals stink. As one dealer put it, "These don't lease well right now". The Laramie monthly price is out of hand so I dropped down to a Big Horn. The B/H doesn't have the LED headlights or the lane change warning stuff but is otherwise nicely equipped. I then found a loaded Chevy LTZ with just about every option package you can imagine. The LTZ is less money than the Ram B/H.
The rebates from all the manufactures are really tough to navigate. Ram will give a Conquest rebate if you currently own another brand but they will not give it on a lease. Its all B/S. I even called the Ram rebate info desk and asked the girl what rebates apply to a lease and she quoted me APR loan rates. I think they pulled her off the assembly line and told her to answer the phones that day.
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Please look at leasing from other sources than FCA. I found the lease options $240 different on a 36 month lease, same mileage between 2 outside sources and FCA (Chrysler)
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