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F150 diesel - any experience?

Old 06-05-2019, 01:13 PM
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Have been shopping for a 3.5 ecoboost but found a decent deal on a leftover 2018 3.0 diesel. Anyone own one of these? How do you like it? Everything I've read indicates they aren't worth the sticker price versus the 3.5 but, given the deal, maybe its worth it?

Any known issues?

Looking for any first hand experience. Thanks much.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:27 PM
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Do a little searching- There is at least one guy here that bought one and he posted about it, a few months (??) ago. He really liked it.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:49 PM
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Believe it was member “Kenny Powers”.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:44 PM
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They have a rather small tow rating.
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthpawHD View Post
They have a rather small tow rating.
Well, it is only a 3 liter diesel. Compared to the 6.7 its tow rating is rather low.
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Very good friend of mine is the sales manager for a very big Ford dealership. He's driven truck they have to offer. Also all the toyota's, dodge's, and chevy's that get traded in. He owns a 25ft Sea Hunt bay boat. He said the 3.5 eco boost pulls the boat better than any half ton on the market and far superior to the diesel F150.
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The diesels role is for fuel economy, if you are looking for the best engine for towing then select the 3.5 ecoboost which is by far the best motor in all of the 1/2 tons.
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WolpackVO View Post
The diesels role is for fuel economy, if you are looking for the best engine for towing then select the 3.5 ecoboost which is by far the best motor in all of the 1/2 tons.
As a Ford dealer, I agree with this, the diesel is a good engine and can tow, but not near the towing and performance of the 3.5. If I weren't towing and drove a good bit of miles per year, I think the diesel would be a good choice. The acceleration is less than the 3.5, but the mileage is a good bit more. There is $9000.00 in dealer cash on the 18 F-150 diesels, so the savings are HUGE if you find one, some were put in the Ford courtesy transportation program as service loaners, that's another $3000! So, you if it's one of those, you should be around $14,000 under invoice!!!
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But yes, I could not be any happier with it. Smoother, quieter, and more efficient than my 2015 5.0 was.

Yes, It's a small diesel, but it's appropriately sized for a 1/2 ton truck. I'm not real worried about an 11,400 towing capacity. I won't likely ever get halfway there. I also don't trust the numbers. I once pulled a skid steer (10,000# with trailer) with a 3.5 EB; and it felt like it was going to come apart in the 15 miles we had to go. 13,200 towing capacity my a$$. Wouldn't do that again. I haven't tried it, but since diesel is currently the most efficient method for converting liquid into shaft power I'd be much more confident with this 3.0 engine with the same 10k pounds.

I had a salesman try to tell me. "oh it's a diesel, so it's really more like a 5/8 ton truck, kinda somewhere in between" ........ Uh, NO it is not!
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Originally Posted by WolpackVO View Post
The diesels role is for fuel economy, if you are looking for the best engine for towing then select the 3.5 ecoboost which is by far the best motor in all of the 1/2 tons.
Have towed with the 5.0, 3.5EB, and 3.0diesel; and I'd have to disagree. If you tow heavy, then you really just need a 3/4 ton. If you tow light, the diesel is by far the best option. My boat with an EB got around 11 and wanted to downshift 3 gears to go up a hill. The diesel gets 15+ and holds 10th gear up a moderate grade.
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We are in the market for a new F150, I've towed with the 3.5EB for thousands of miles, but only maybe 500 with the 3.0, over the coast range to the ocean with the boat (7K) a couple of times. The 3.0 wouldn't hold the speed limit up a couple of the grades, while the 3.5EB is at part throttle.

The efficiency of the diesel engine doesn't make up for the deficiency in power when compared to the 3.5EB. Towing impressions aside, with essentially the same torque at the 3.0's peak of 1750rpm, and more torque at all other rpm (not to mention the 125hp advantage), I'm not sure where the extra confidence would come from. The 3.5EB absolutely outperforms the 3.0 in every category besides fuel economy. That said, both trucks are very comfortable and drive great, the 3.0 would be a strong candidate if we weren't towing. Oh, and if the wife didn't say no, it's going to be her truck. She says it's a turd.
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We are in the market for a new F150, I've towed with the 3.5EB for thousands of miles, but only maybe 500 with the 3.0, over the coast range to the ocean with the boat (7K) a couple of times. The 3.0 wouldn't hold the speed limit up a couple of the grades, while the 3.5EB is at part throttle.

The efficiency of the diesel engine doesn't make up for the deficiency in power when compared to the 3.5EB. Towing impressions aside, with essentially the same torque at the 3.0's peak of 1750rpm, and more torque at all other rpm (not to mention the 125hp advantage), I'm not sure where the extra confidence would come from. The 3.5EB absolutely outperforms the 3.0 in every category besides fuel economy. That said, both trucks are very comfortable and drive great, the 3.0 would be a strong candidate if we weren't towing. Oh, and if the wife didn't say no, it's going to be her truck. She says it's a turd.
Ya, I've got no data for a 7k boat. I just know I wouldn't want to tow 7k over mountains with any 1/2 ton truck. I just know that it's MUCH more enjoyable to tow 3-4000 lb with.
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Have towed with the 5.0, 3.5EB, and 3.0diesel; and I'd have to disagree. If you tow heavy, then you really just need a 3/4 ton. If you tow light, the diesel is by far the best option. My boat with an EB got around 11 and wanted to downshift 3 gears to go up a hill. The diesel gets 15+ and holds 10th gear up a moderate grade.
You ain't getting 15 mpg towing unless its downhill with the 1/2 ton diesel.
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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers View Post
Have towed with the 5.0, 3.5EB, and 3.0diesel; and I'd have to disagree. If you tow heavy, then you really just need a 3/4 ton. If you tow light, the diesel is by far the best option. My boat with an EB got around 11 and wanted to downshift 3 gears to go up a hill. The diesel gets 15+ and holds 10th gear up a moderate grade.
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this one.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:21 AM
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Ya, I've got no data for a 7k boat. I just know I wouldn't want to tow 7k over mountains with any 1/2 ton truck. I just know that it's MUCH more enjoyable to tow 3-4000 lb with.
7K is within reason (and under capacity) for 1/2 tons of 20 years ago, modern trucks are light years ahead of those. Obviously it's going to be more fun towing 1/4 of any truck's capacity, but to suggest it's unnerving or out of line to tow 7K with a truck rated for 11K is not exactly reasonable. My point was that there's absolutely no way the 3.0 will be more confidence inspiring than the 3.5EB as you suggested, regardless of the fuel it burns.
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Originally Posted by ParkRanger View Post
7K is within reason (and under capacity) for 1/2 tons of 20 years ago, modern trucks are light years ahead of those. Obviously it's going to be more fun towing 1/4 of any truck's capacity, but to suggest it's unnerving or out of line to tow 7K with a truck rated for 11K is not exactly reasonable. My point was that there's absolutely no way the 3.0 will be more confidence inspiring than the 3.5EB as you suggested, regardless of the fuel it burns.
I didn't say confidence inspiring. I said enjoyable.
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Originally Posted by joshd472 View Post
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this one.
That's fair.... you're entitled to your opinion, just like I'm entitled to my facts....
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Originally Posted by simeoncoleman View Post
You ain't getting 15 mpg towing unless its downhill with the 1/2 ton diesel.
Okay..... just pulled a Skeeter FX21 on a weekend trip 400+ miles and did the math at the pump to check the digital gauge. 24mpg around town and 15+ towing a light boat.....I don't know why this is so hard to believe.
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I test drove it before I went with my f250. I really liked it. I didn’t think it was sluggish and the Fuel efficiency is supposed to be great. Do you tow much? If not get what you want. That w the longer bed offered w the f150 would be my choice if I went that route. Like others said if you tow a lot get the 3/4-1 ton.
id like to see the difference if it was tuned.
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Okay..... just pulled a Skeeter FX21 on a weekend trip 400+ miles and did the math at the pump to check the digital gauge. 24mpg around town and 15+ towing a light boat.....I don't know why this is so hard to believe.
I tow a 22' bay boat with 3.31 gears on a 3.5 it has never down shifted 3 times going up a hill. It holds 8th gear at 65 mph on flat land and 99% of hills at 2k rpm. Every once in a while it will shift to 7th and rev to 2.5k rpm.
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