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If the winch is capable, is it safe to pull a heavy boat by the front eye?

Old 05-27-2019, 08:00 AM
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Default If the winch is capable, is it safe to pull a heavy boat by the front eye?

I've had this Mako 282 about 3 years now and it is the most difficult boat to load that I've ever had. I've been making some changes to the trailer in efforts to help. I'll see if I was successful this week (boat is in the water).
I added forward/targeting bunks with glides on them. In the past, it's been almost impossible to get the boat all the way to the bow stop. I moved the boat and bow stop back about 18" and it helped a little but then the trailer had no tongue weight. Pic is how it was set up when I bought it.

Back to my main question: Is it safe to pull a boat this size/weight by the front eye to get it to the bow stop? I've never had one this big before and I'm uneasy with putting that much strain on the eye alone. Ramps I use are steep, btw.

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Old 05-27-2019, 08:26 AM
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Yes... but I would suggest that you drive the boat up to the front rollers, if you have a mate or significant other. I see those trailer guides that will get you on straight. With a little practice, you will be able to do it solo in no time. Then you will only need to cinch her up. If there is no pier, with water shoes and shorts, you can walk along the trailer rail up to shallow water. Otherwise, stay in the boat as your helper drives you up the ramp.
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Yes... but I would suggest that you drive the boat up to the front rollers, if you have a mate or significant other. I see those trailer guides that will get you on straight. With a little practice, you will be able to do it solo in no time. Then you will only need to cinch her up.
That's been the problem. Can't power all the way to the roller. Hopefully the glides on the new forward bunks will help that, but doubtful since it had only a V roller setup in the front previously and still couldn't get there.
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That's been the problem. Can't power all the way to the roller. Hopefully the glides on the new forward bunks will help that, but doubtful since it had only a V roller setup in the front previously and still couldn't get there.
Put more of the trailer under water.
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Put more of the trailer under water.
Gonna try. Not much left before the rear tires of the truck are in the water, maybe a foot. Might be enough though, in this game of inches.
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Gonna try. Not much left before the rear tires of the truck are in the water, maybe a foot. Might be enough though, in this game of inches.
Just back the trailer up a bit once you start to feel too much tension on the winch. Should float the boat just enough to get it the rest of the way. Foot may be all you need but as long as youíre tailpipe isnít completely submerged, you should be fine. Heck even it is, just keep the truck running so water doesnít fill the exhaust system.
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Gonna try. Not much left before the rear tires of the truck are in the water, maybe a foot. Might be enough though, in this game of inches.
Sounds about right, a foot from the waterline, also depends on the tide table. Water at the ramp is usually more shallow at low tide, so also consider that when you are returning.
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Just back the trailer up a bit once you start to feel too much tension on the winch. Should float the boat just enough to get it the rest of the way. Foot may be all you need but as long as youíre tailpipe isnít completely submerged, you should be fine. Heck even it is, just keep the truck running so water doesnít fill the exhaust system.
Not worried about the exhaust, it's far out of the water (I used to mud bog, exhaust submerged a couple of feet!) More concerned with traction. Thanks for the replies/tips. Gonna keep experimenting with trailer submersion, bunk position, etc. Moved the bow stop down a bit, it kept hitting on or above the rub rail on the bow when trying to pull out.
The main bunks are a bit too long IMHO. In the pic, you can see that they extend past the stern about 2 feet. Shouldn't affect loading though.

Hopefully, the new forward bunks will enable a deeper trailer position and allow me to float/power all the way to the bow stop.
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Shouldn’t have to dunk the truck. Load the bunks up with silicon spray, it’ll help ALOT. Get it loaded about as far as it’ll go, shallower is usually better for the trailer. Pull her on out, roll about 10 mph and jam the brakes on real quick. It will slide up the the stop surprisingly easy. Works 100 percent of the time with our 31
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Shouldnít have to dunk the truck. Load the bunks up with silicon spray, itíll help ALOT. Get it loaded about as far as itíll go, shallower is usually better for the trailer. Pull her on out, roll about 10 mph and jam the brakes on real quick. It will slide up the the stop surprisingly easy. Works 100 percent of the time with our 31
Iff you grease the bunks MAKE Sure you use rear tie Downs.
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Originally Posted by 2000contender31 View Post
Shouldnít have to dunk the truck. Load the bunks up with silicon spray, itíll help ALOT. Get it loaded about as far as itíll go, shallower is usually better for the trailer. Pull her on out, roll about 10 mph and jam the brakes on real quick. It will slide up the the stop surprisingly easy. Works 100 percent of the time with our 31
LOL. I thought I was the only one providing that show at the ramp! That's what I'm trying to STOP doing!
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I've also had a bad feeling about putting any kind of serious strain on the bow eye of my boat.. and mines a 22ft flats boat!!!

Pretty much what was said above though. But, you might want to consider upgrading trucks.. I don't think you have enough truck to pull that boat around
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Once you power up as far as you would like, back trailer in a bit more and give it another go. Should work like a charm.
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I've also had a bad feeling about putting any kind of serious strain on the bow eye of my boat.. and mines a 22ft flats boat!!!

Pretty much what was said above though. But, you might want to consider upgrading trucks.. I don't think you have enough truck to pull that boat around
I hope that last part was a joke! My one ton dually pulls that boat like it's not even back there!
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I hope that last part was a joke! My one ton dually pulls that boat like it's not even back there!
Your truck is awesome.
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Electric winch. Bow eye will handle it
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Awesome classic tow vehicle! Seems like the winch is too far forward. If moving it back causes too little tongue weight, you may want to consider moving the axles back.
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Back in further. Your tires are allowed to get wet
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Back in further. Your tires are allowed to get wet
I know. I'm just finicky about getting saltwater on this truck! LOL
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Originally Posted by head_hunter View Post
Awesome classic tow vehicle! Seems like the winch is too far forward. If moving it back causes too little tongue weight, you may want to consider moving the axles back.
Looking at the side view, I think that may be the underlying issue. If I can't find a suitable workaround, I may have to try that.
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