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Old 05-20-2019, 10:09 AM
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Here is what I am considering for my next vehicle. I love my Dakota but it doesn't hurt to do research beforehand.

2019 Silverado Custom, 5.3 without AFM, 6-speed auto, 4x4 & locking rear diff

Custom trim has minimal options, with less things to go wrong. The lack of AFM on the 5.3 means this should go 250,000 miles without a problem. The GM 6 speed is a great trans, as is their locking rear end. I am not sure about the single speed transfer case, but I imagine it is fine.

Thoughts? Any better trucks out there to consider in the 30k price range?
Old 05-20-2019, 10:23 AM
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Can you get the 5.3 without AFM or do you mean tuning it out?
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Originally Posted by VTXrider View Post
Can you get the 5.3 without AFM or do you mean tuning it out?
OK, scratch that idea.

It doesn't have "Dynamic" fuel management, but it has "active" fuel management.

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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
OK, scratch that idea.

It doesn't have "Dynamic" fuel management, but it has "active" fuel management.
either way, i dont think you can get it from factory without that! meaning its not an option you can choose or not choose to have!
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Does anyone know if the 5.3 still has the issues the old ones did with wiped cam lobes and other AFM-related problems at the 100-120k mark?
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The gen 5 small blocks are way different than gen 3/4 small blocks. The gen 5's are direct injected and still have cylinder deactivation.
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Originally Posted by Elgreco809 View Post
The gen 5 small blocks are way different than gen 3/4 small blocks. The gen 5's are direct injected and still have cylinder deactivation.
To me that means walnut blasts every 30k and burned out cam lobes at 100k. Not convinced.
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My company issued 2013 GMC pickup had about 135,000 miles before it was recently replaced with a 2019 Silverado. Both have the 5.3. Never had any issues with the 2013. I work in the timber industry and the trucks are driven hard.

That said, in general, the Tundras hold up the best. I don't like the interiors though which is why I chose the chevy.
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Originally Posted by twollman View Post
My company issued 2013 GMC pickup had about 135,000 miles before it was recently replaced with a 2019 Silverado. Both have the 5.3. Never had any issues with the 2013. I work in the timber industry and the trucks are driven hard.

That said, in general, the Tundras hold up the best. I don't like the interiors though which is why I chose the chevy.
Agree with this. If you just want simple, Tundra is the king of that at this point. IMO closely followed by the 5.0 Fords. The Toyota design is very long in the tooth at this point though.
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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
To me that means walnut blasts every 30k and burned out cam lobes at 100k. Not convinced.
what needs to be walnut blasted every 30k? i dont think the new 5.3 are anything like the older 5.3. hope not anyway! the afm cam lobe issue is hit or miss! some folks got lucky and other such as myself got burned!
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
what needs to be walnut blasted every 30k? i dont think the new 5.3 are anything like the older 5.3. hope not anyway! the afm cam lobe issue is hit or miss! some folks got lucky and other such as myself got burned!
Very much hit or miss. My dad had a pair of 2007 suburbans. 80K on the first, 300K on the second. No AFM issues on either. Current 2016 is pushing 100K, and also no issues.

Uncle & cousin have both had issues in their pickups. Both were rectified with no major long term issues.

Best I can tell in talking to our mechanic, if it uses oil before 100K, it's likely going to be a problem motor. If it doesn't, likely good to go. That's not a hard and fast rule, just his general observation.

I have a Dodge with their version (MFD). Going in the shop tomorrow and likely getting a new motor because it's using more than a quart of oil every 500 miles. Appears to be valvetrain related, which is where MFD issues tend to show up. Has 214K on the clock. Fortunately, also under warranty.
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They are hit or miss. My 2012 5.3 took a dump at 94k miles and I had to replace the engine. About 35k miles on my new engine and it's been trouble free (as would be expected). Personally, I'll never own another vehicle with a 5.3 ever again.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Agree with this. If you just want simple, Tundra is the king of that at this point. IMO closely followed by the 5.0 Fords. The Toyota design is very long in the tooth at this point though.

I have a pair of 2011 f150 fords with the 5.0 in the driveway that have been great (knock on wood). one has 258k the other has 247k. Also have a 2015 f350 with the 6.2 that I am hoping will be just as reliable.
I agree the tundra is very reliable but prefer the 5.0 fords for all around.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Very much hit or miss. My dad had a pair of 2007 suburbans. 80K on the first, 300K on the second. No AFM issues on either. Current 2016 is pushing 100K, and also no issues.

Uncle & cousin have both had issues in their pickups. Both were rectified with no major long term issues.

Best I can tell in talking to our mechanic, if it uses oil before 100K, it's likely going to be a problem motor. If it doesn't, likely good to go. That's not a hard and fast rule, just his general observation.

I have a Dodge with their version (MFD). Going in the shop tomorrow and likely getting a new motor because it's using more than a quart of oil every 500 miles. Appears to be valvetrain related, which is where MFD issues tend to show up. Has 214K on the clock. Fortunately, also under warranty.
Hemi? What year?

Relative has a 2012 Hemi Ram that I thought about buying at trade in time. It has a super loud tick upon startup though and I think it has like 80k on it.
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Hemi? What year?

Relative has a 2012 Hemi Ram that I thought about buying at trade in time. It has a super loud tick upon startup though and I think it has like 80k on it.
2008. One of the old lifetime warranty trucks, hence why I am still driving it. It got a full even side valve train replacement at 37K, and has otherwise been flawless.
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The cam lobes were a 04/05 thing. Around here they all have rotted out rockers, cab corners & rear wheel arches in five years because of the tons of salt they put on the roads. They all are decent drivetrains, the body's don't hold a candle to the salt though. If I lived down south I would buy new as it would last forever, around here, no thanks.
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Tundra and Yamaha cannot be beat. Been that way for a long time.
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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
Hemi? What year?

Relative has a 2012 Hemi Ram that I thought about buying at trade in time. It has a super loud tick upon startup though and I think it has like 80k on it.
I've got a 2012 Hemi Ram that I had to replace the cam in, same general fuel management problem as the 5.3 Chevy. It made it until around 150k miles before any problems though.

We've got a 2017 Yukon with the 5.3 that's going back into the shop this week, probably for a few more new injectors. Injectors #1 and #3 have already shat the bed once on it, it's getting traded as soon as a suitable replacement can be located. It's got around 70k miles now.
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Looks like I might need to go with a used 6.2 to get the 6 speed auto. I don't trust that 8 speed as far as I can throw the shift lever.
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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
Looks like I might need to go with a used 6.2 to get the 6 speed auto. I don't trust that 8 speed as far as I can throw the shift lever.
The 8-speed in my 2016 6.2L is true POS, I read the new 10-speed is better but not wanting to take a gamble with a new $50K at this point.

I love the new Ram, head tells me go with Tundra.

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