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Old 04-15-2019, 12:57 PM
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Gonna wait until finish building out a guest bath but the admiral gave me her blessing to buy a new truck! In the mean time I have been doing some looking and pricing on all makes of 2019 Ĺ tons. I keep coming back to Ram first and Nissan second as they seem to have the most bang for your buck. I have never owned either make though and am a bit leary. My last two trucks have been Ford but I canít get into an F150 optioned like the Ram or Nissan for anywhere close to the same money. As for GM, I like the Silverado but donít like the 5.3, to get the 6.2 means a step up in trim and cost and I get a bunch of bells and whistles I donít want or want to pay for. Toyos arenít really in play as I think the Tundra is fugly.

So Iím back to the Ram/Nissan. Really leaning towards the Ram but would like to get input on both. Whatís the good and the bad from THT Ram & Nissan owners?

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Old 04-15-2019, 01:16 PM
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Not really what you're asking but there are some killer deals out there on leftover 18 Ram 2500s (I've seen better than 20% off msrp with rebates and discounts combined) so maybe deals on the 1500s too? Ram has new versions for 19 so the 18s maybe aren't moving?
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New vehicles will sell for what the market will bear, same as boats a higher end boat won't sell for the same as a perceived lower tier production boat. There are a few 2018 F-150's left that have big rebates, may not get you to the price of a Dodge, but might make it more attractive. $3500 on Lariats and up to $8250 on 2018 XLT's!!
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Find a low mile '17 or 18 GMC 6.2 towing package and spend less than any of the new ones.

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Gonna wait until finish building out a guest bath but the admiral gave me her blessing to buy a new truck! In the mean time I have been doing some looking and pricing on all makes of 2019 Ĺ tons. I keep coming back to Ram first and Nissan second as they seem to have the most bang for your buck. I have never owned either make though and am a bit leary. My last two trucks have been Ford but I canít get into an F150 optioned like the Ram or Nissan for anywhere close to the same money. As for GM, I like the Silverado but donít like the 5.3, to get the 6.2 means a step up in trim and cost and I get a bunch of bells and whistles I donít want or want to pay for. Toyos arenít really in play as I think the Tundra is fugly.

So Iím back to the Ram/Nissan. Really leaning towards the Ram but would like to get input on both. Whatís the good and the bad from THT Ram & Nissan owners?
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I was in the same boat as you. Even with my brother-in-law being a Ford dealer, I couldn't get into a Ford. I would have liked to get an F150 but the price was impossible. Even used they were priced out. I told my BIL that I wanted a V8, but he kept pushing the ECO Boost. I eventually found a nice RAM Big Horn and love it. 30K miles later, no issues other than a recall. I did do a good bit of research and was lucky that I have friends that own Rams and could give me feedback. Good luck with your search.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:21 PM
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Our 2017 Ram 1500 hemi has been flawless. No issues at all. We bought that based on our experience with my 2011 Ram 2500. It’s also been awesome. I’ve never been brand loyal and have driven fords and chevys as well. Based on personal experiences I’ll keep driving Rams for now.
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I have a Nissan, but it’s an XD diesel, so I can’t really compare the gas engines. The Hemi in the Ram is strong, but I’ve heard good things about the 5.6 in the Nissan. It’s not the same 5.6 that was in Titans prior to 2016.

The seats in the Titan are just awesome. Really comfortable. On trips to the Keys in my old truck, I was in need of a break when I had to fill up. That was with a 26 gallon tank and getting around 6-7 mpg. I currently get around 12 mpg towing the same load and still have a 26 gallon tank. I found myself pushing the fuel limits last year because the driver didn’t need a break. That jump in mpg is due to the Cummins, so don’t expect that much of an increase.
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2017 Ram Hemi here. Came out of a 2014 Silverado.
The Ram is the best riding truck I've been in. The coil spring suspension in the rear really does make that big of a difference. Air suspension on the Ram might be even better.
Only other truck I've owned is a '73 Ford, but I've ridden in plenty of 'em.
Hemi is strong. Fuel economy is so-so, but good lucking finding a V-8 half ton that is much better.
The transmission is much better than the SIlverado's was.
For the 2019 model year, you can still get both body styles. The new one and the "classic". I'm having a hard time being convinced that the new look is better than the outgoing one.
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:10 PM
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We got a Nissan Titan pro4x gasser 7 or so months back and could not be happier. My wife liked the truck and is the main reason we went with Nissan. The truck drives and handles well, as for towing we pulled a water logged formula from Arizona to South Texas about 1200 miles no problems. Now the Nissan Titans are thirsty 12-13 towing, 17-22 driving. As for off road 4x4 it shines for a stock truck. Were 20k miles now and so far so good, Iíd recommend the truck, itís grown on me.
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:29 PM
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Nissan XD with bumper to bumper 100K warranty is hard to beat
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If you are going to keep it and drive it some miles get the Nissan, can't beat the warranty.
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I have a 2018 Titan SL I have 25k on it and I am very happy with it no issues to speak of average highway is 18-21mpg depending on speed. I can second NC_Robbie I just towed my 18' Parker 80 miles each way this past weekend and got approx 12.5mpg on cruise control between 50-60mph.
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:32 PM
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You are a short distance from Winder, Georgia and Akins Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram. You can find their whole 2000 unit inventory on AkinsFord.com, and I think you'll find their advertised prices lowest on the internet.

Akins is not the largest car dealer in the State of Georgia for no reason. They also have specialized bodies already mounted on both Ford and Ram trucks.

Check'em out. I've bought a number of vehicles from Akins before I escaped the traffic hell called Atlanta is 15 years ago. It just takes 20 minutes to get there from Lawrenceville--out Hwy 316.
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Can't speak for the new Titan but had a 14 and then a 17 Ram. Both with hemi and 8 speed transmissions and liked them both. Now in a 19 Chevy with 5.3 and 8 speed transmission. If you haven't tried the 5.3/8 speed combo you should. Drove an 18 with 5.3/6 speed combo and it was a dog compared to the 8 speed. The nice thing about Ram is for less than $100 you can get a 3.92 rear diff for better towing without sacrificing much in mpg.
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Old 04-16-2019, 03:57 AM
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ram hands down. their truck game is STRONG now
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Old 04-16-2019, 06:01 AM
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Thanks for the responses so far fellas! Looks like both Ram & Nissan owners are liking their respective trucks! That's good to hear. Makes the decision harder though.

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New vehicles will sell for what the market will bear, same as boats a higher end boat won't sell for the same as a perceived lower tier production boat. There are a few 2018 F-150's left that have big rebates, may not get you to the price of a Dodge, but might make it more attractive. $3500 on Lariats and up to $8250 on 2018 XLT's!!
Haha! Love it! Classic car dealer response and the same thing the guy at one of your competitors said. Like I told him; Why would I want a 2018 Ford when I can get a 2019 Ram or Nissan for the same money? If Ford wants me in one of their trucks, they will sell me a 2019 at the same price I can get an equally optioned truck from one of their competitors for. If they don't, they don't!

Nothing personal John, it's a numbers game for me, as I'm sure it is for you too. I drive an 08 F250 now and my previous was an 01 F150, both good trucks. It is funny though, Ford used to have the best priced trucks out there and the dealers wanted to deal and GM was the one that didn't. Market shows people are buying Fords at current prices, so I don't blame them a bit for being more expensive.


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Find a low mile '17 or 18 GMC 6.2 towing package and spend less than any of the new ones.
I've done a little bit of looking for one. Not many of these out that I have found. The ones I have seen had quite a few miles on them for their age. More than I wanted anyway.

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You are a short distance from Winder, Georgia and Akins Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram. You can find their whole 2000 unit inventory on AkinsFord.com, and I think you'll find their advertised prices lowest on the internet.

Akins is not the largest car dealer in the State of Georgia for no reason. They also have specialized bodies already mounted on both Ford and Ram trucks.

Check'em out. I've bought a number of vehicles from Akins before I escaped the traffic hell called Atlanta is 15 years ago. It just takes 20 minutes to get there from Lawrenceville--out Hwy 316.
I have looked a lot at Akins for Rams but not for Fords. My BIL lives up in Lawrenceville and buys all his trucks there. They do have some very good prices and most of the ones they have sitting on the lot are optioned almost exactly how I want. If I do go with a Ram, I'm going to give a dealer I used to go to church with a shot first. If not, will be going to see Akins.
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Originally Posted by N747JB View Post
New vehicles will sell for what the market will bear, same as boats a higher end boat won't sell for the same as a perceived lower tier production boat. There are a few 2018 F-150's left that have big rebates, may not get you to the price of a Dodge, but might make it more attractive. $3500 on Lariats and up to $8250 on 2018 XLT's!!
boats are a whole different ballgame than vehicles. It is easy to see the difference in quality between boat pricing tiers, and there are alot more options to choose from when it comes to boats. You've only got 5 when it comes to 1/2 ton trucks, and lets be real, they are all in the same class. All of them have their issues, all of them have their loyal fans, and all of them from a quality/fit/finish standpoint are on par with each other. As a Ford dealer, I would expect you to believe your product is the best, and to attempt to sell them for as much as you can. But I think you'd have a difficult time actually pointing out the differences that command the higher price in similarly optioned trucks. Really you are just paying for the name
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:04 AM
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Nissan 2017 titan XD gas- platinum edition. The truck has 31k miles on it and we love it. Lets set the parameters of use: Daily driver- 15-18 MPG I did not want a diesel daily driver.
Towing an old Mako 261 with twin outboards 9-11 MPG. It does not struggle one bit, tows straight and it feels secure. I think the load is about 6-7k pounds.
We have also hauled a Rybo runner 31 on short trips- light load with triax trailer is about 10k. you know the boat is behind you on the local hills. But I don't push it and on the highway you know you are pulling a big boat. BUT still no issues.
I would not do a 150 mile haul to the cape with the truck for only one reason- I can rent a ram 2500 diesel for $75 for the day. For me this makes sense and has nothing to do with the truck.

My cousin has a 19 ram- loaded. It drives like a car, and looks great. I actually prefer the look of the Ram over Nissan but I was 10k less out the door and the Nissan tows better.
We only tow 5-6 times a year but that may increase.
The Titan is a bigger truck than Ram-
Down side is parking and a bad turning radius-

On either truck- hard core towing, plowing or using it as a true construction truck they wont last. You should jump to a ford 250 diesel.
there are other threads on this issue- do a search
there is a Titan XD website you can see the good and bad.
you cant go wrong with either. Good luck
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:17 AM
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Rams tend to be less expensive at initial purchase but you will also get less for trade-in or resale. I have owned 4 Dodge/Ram trucks. An 01, 02, 14 and a 17. I wouldn't hesitate to own another but I'm not brand loyal and am currently driving a 19 Chevy. With the 8 speed transmission the Ram and Chevy perform very well. I wouldn't own either with a 6 speed after having driven their 8 speed options. It makes a big difference in performance. I had a 2012 Titan and liked it too but can't comment one way or the other on the new Titan other than to say IMO it's not very attractive on the outside.
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Less trade in value than a Titan?

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Rams tend to be less expensive at initial purchase but you will also get less for trade-in or resale. I have owned 4 Dodge/Ram trucks. An 01, 02, 14 and a 17. I wouldn't hesitate to own another but I'm not brand loyal and am currently driving a 19 Chevy. With the 8 speed transmission the Ram and Chevy perform very well. I wouldn't own either with a 6 speed after having driven their 8 speed options. It makes a big difference in performance. I had a 2012 Titan and liked it too but can't comment one way or the other on the new Titan other than to say IMO it's not very attractive on the outside.
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