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Old 04-10-2019, 01:39 AM
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question for group..........we are having a few things done to our "new to us" boat trailer..........seems the previous owner did not "take care" of certain matters, that we didn't catch until after the purchase was complete............anyway, the existing hydraulic system is full of rust and must be replaced........unfortunately, the parts for that unit are no longer available............the actual braking system is also pretty much junk and must be replaced.................the tech has talked to us about switching out the hydraulic system for an electrical system.............i can see the benefit of each, but am looking for other opinions as to which system is best..................the actual cost is pretty close, so it goes back to which would work best......thanks
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Old 04-10-2019, 01:54 AM
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Electric Brakes on a Boat Trailer are a No-No...UNLESS,They are Electric over Hydraulic...How old is the Trailer?..How are the Bunks or Rollers?,Tires? Frame itself? Sometimes it's better to just bite the Bullet and buy a new Trailer.
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:16 AM
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lone ranger, i am not familiar with electric over hydraulic brakes, an you explain.............the trailer is a 98..........trailer guy said he is gonna replace fender bunks due to rot, and maybe re-carpet the other bunks............tires like new, replacing wheels as i don't like the ones that are on it..................frame solid............repair costs no where near the cost of a new one......................
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:34 AM
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I like electric brakes for my boat trailer
I would think that new electric would be quite a bit less than a surge refit?
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:38 AM
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jeffnick, do you unplug the electric connection before dunking the trailer in the water?..........i have always done that...............
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Look for Kodiak stainless disk brakes - they have worked well for me. If you are in salt water there are very few systems that will hold up over time; fresh water would make it easier/cheaper. When you start adding the cost of the parts it gets up near "replacement trailer cost" pretty quick. I would expect to spend 700 - 1000 for a complete stainless system but that's just a guess based on parts I have bought.

If you call etrailer.com they are very helpful with any questions you have. There may be other vendors on this site that are good too.
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Originally Posted by jssearay View Post
jeffnick, do you unplug the electric connection before dunking the trailer in the water?..........i have always done that...............
Never. On steep/slippery ramps it's nice to be able to engage the electric trailer brakes when backing down.
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johnc................yes, the cost was around that dollar amount............will not really use it in salt water, but stainless makes sense..................thanks....................
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:03 AM
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i guess the thing that concerns me is that when putting in water, all electrical connections MUST be watertight.............
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jssearay View Post
i guess the thing that concerns me is that when putting in water, all electrical connections MUST be watertight.............
The electric/hydraulic systems use an electric powered actuator that applies hydraulic pressure to the brake system when the brake lights come on. All of the electric parts are on the tongue of the trailer - hydraulic from there back.
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**Edit just saw no saltwater post you can get away with using coated stuff in freshwater.**
In saltwater Kodiak Stainless only way to go.
Unless you like rusted up junk every couple years.
Watched a buddy buy the other stuff to only replace every couple years.
Then he switched to all SS
Cost some extra dollars upfront but will last alot longer than the other coated stuff.
I have brakes on both axles.
SS brakes with the SS hubs & hydraulic actuator it was around $ 2200 to replace it for parts.
Spent approx $4500 in parts rebuilding trailer top to bottom and a few days of time.
All bolts nuts washers switched to stainless hardware ,new bunks & glides,lights, wiring, alumium brackets.
New radial tires and galv. wheels,hydraulic lines and bearings.
Used tinned wire ran grounds for all the lights back to front of trailer.
Used shrink tube butt connectors with shrink tube over that.
Next time I will order a new trailer all done up it was alot of work
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:12 AM
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just redid my entire brake system on my trailer. go with electric over hydro. they work great. I had all electric before this and it burned out in 2 uses the water frys the magnet . feel free to pm me if you need any assistance but load rite has tons of info on this give them a call they helped me out a ton
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:56 AM
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You can put electric brakes on the trailer. I have them on my 84' Myco.
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:20 AM
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:19 PM
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Did not see if you were salt water or not.

But 300$ got me parts for 2 axle brakes on my pontoon boat 28’. Way nice to have brakes.

Rolling 5000 lb trailer with no brakes =no fun.

They work wet wet or dry. 3 seasons now lots of dunks. Once a week New York summers.

I installed myself.

Easy to fix if needed.

Not sure if there is a salt water series for std electric brakes.

Good sticky grease in all butt joints is sufficient.
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:44 PM
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Electric brakes will be drum brakes and not last long or provide a lot of braking power. Hydraulic or electric over hydraulic can be disc brakes and will be much stronger. The only reason I could think of to use is electric brakes is that they're cheap. As they say, you get what you pay for.
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:37 PM
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Make sure you understand how much time and money you will be sinking into this trailer before you move forward... a new one may be the least expensive way to go.
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:50 PM
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As for the tires being "like new", how old are they ? Assuming they are ST tires , they will normally age out before they wear out. I just put a new axle, springs and hubs and replaced not quite 5 year old tires on a 1986 Aluminum trailer.
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Old 04-12-2019, 06:32 AM
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no salt water usage........trailer checked out structurally...............replacing tandem hydraulic braking system with an entire new hydraulic system..........thought about electric brakes, but there would have been an issue if and when i tow the boat with our motorhome...............electric brakes would engage whenever engine braking system was used, including going down a long hill on the freeway........on our coach at least...............tires good mike f, st's with good tread and fairly recent manufacture date....................we are used to replacing motorhome tires based on age, not wear..........that gets expensive..........so i am out the door at about 25% of the cost of a new trailer (which also includes all labor, i am not that mechanically inclined)...............includes new bunks where needed and electrical repairs if needed...............trailer should be good as new, with exception of dull paint (i can live with that)................trouble is, won't get the unit back for another week and a half, and the weather is turning nice...........wanna use the thing.....thanks to all that have provided such useful information........................
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