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02-18-2019, 05:32 AM
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With Pasta out scoring seems to be spreading around. Funny when Bergie was out the same thing happened. But when everyone is back it seems like the whole team plays defense and waits for the first line to score. That is not the recipe for a long playoff run. They are very entertaining to watch but unless they give up on some of the young talent to get a slightly old in the tooth ex-super star, they won't go too deep. But then again they tried that last year and it didn't work out. The best scenario is to get the youngsters to step up.... here is hoping.
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02-18-2019, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Parapapam
With Pasta out scoring seems to be spreading around. Funny when Bergie was out the same thing happened. But when everyone is back it seems like the whole team plays defense and waits for the first line to score. That is not the recipe for a long playoff run. They are very entertaining to watch but unless they give up on some of the young talent to get a slightly old in the tooth ex-super star, they won't go too deep. But then again they tried that last year and it didn't work out. The best scenario is to get the youngsters to step up.... here is hoping.
Mike
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02-18-2019, 09:46 AM
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We had this debate last year. They have above average (top third) goaltending. And every stat in the book backs me up. Do they have Elite goaltending? No you are right they do not have an Elite goalie. But 26 to 30 teams don't have Elite goaltending either. Now if your argument is that you can't win the Cup without elite goaltending then we can have a rational conversation (I may even agree with that). But if you are saying "The Bruins Goalies Suck!!!," well any objective measuement and a lot of players / coaches / reporter / rational people disagree with you.
From todays Globe "
“He’s one of the most elite goalies in the league,” teammate Brad Marchand said. “He gives us an opportunity every night. You saw the saves he made to keep us in it.” OK I will give you that Marchand maybe rooting a bit too hard for a team mate.... Or maybe you think he doesn't know what he's talking about?
"Rask is on a heater. He is 11-0-2 since Dec. 29, with a 1.93 GAA and .933 save percenta ge in that stretch.....ok that is only the last 13 games. He did have a really rough patch earlier in the year leading to a leave of absence from the team but Halak played pretty well during that stretch." Tim Thomas wasn't a career long Elite goalie. He got hot for a year then imploded....
Current Stat Rank:
GAA. Rask 8, Halak 6
Save Percentage: Rask 10 Halak 7
Haters gonna hate.
I do not disagree with you about giving up young talent for a washed up third liner.... The only way I would consider it if they get a legit 30 goal scorer to put with Krechi and DeBrusk. Last year they tried and failed to do that with Rick Nash
Mike
From todays Globe "
“He’s one of the most elite goalies in the league,” teammate Brad Marchand said. “He gives us an opportunity every night. You saw the saves he made to keep us in it.” OK I will give you that Marchand maybe rooting a bit too hard for a team mate.... Or maybe you think he doesn't know what he's talking about?
"Rask is on a heater. He is 11-0-2 since Dec. 29, with a 1.93 GAA and .933 save percenta ge in that stretch.....ok that is only the last 13 games. He did have a really rough patch earlier in the year leading to a leave of absence from the team but Halak played pretty well during that stretch." Tim Thomas wasn't a career long Elite goalie. He got hot for a year then imploded....
Current Stat Rank:
GAA. Rask 8, Halak 6
Save Percentage: Rask 10 Halak 7
Haters gonna hate.
I do not disagree with you about giving up young talent for a washed up third liner.... The only way I would consider it if they get a legit 30 goal scorer to put with Krechi and DeBrusk. Last year they tried and failed to do that with Rick Nash
Mike
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02-18-2019, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Parapapam
We had this debate last year. They have above average (top third) goaltending. And every stat in the book backs me up. Do they have Elite goaltending? No you are right they do not have an Elite goalie. But 26 to 30 teams don't have Elite goaltending either. Now if your argument is that you can't win the Cup without elite goaltending then we can have a rational conversation (I may even agree with that). But if you are saying "The Bruins Goalies Suck!!!," well any objective measuement and a lot of players / coaches / reporter / rational people disagree with you.
From todays Globe "
“He’s one of the most elite goalies in the league,” teammate Brad Marchand said. “He gives us an opportunity every night. You saw the saves he made to keep us in it.” OK I will give you that Marchand maybe rooting a bit too hard for a team mate.... Or maybe you think he doesn't know what he's talking about?
"Rask is on a heater. He is 11-0-2 since Dec. 29, with a 1.93 GAA and .933 save percenta ge in that stretch.....ok that is only the last 13 games. He did have a really rough patch earlier in the year leading to a leave of absence from the team but Halak played pretty well during that stretch." Tim Thomas wasn't a career long Elite goalie. He got hot for a year then imploded....
Current Stat Rank:
GAA. Rask 8, Halak 6
Save Percentage: Rask 10 Halak 7
Haters gonna hate.
I do not disagree with you about giving up young talent for a washed up third liner.... The only way I would consider it if they get a legit 30 goal scorer to put with Krechi and DeBrusk. Last year they tried and failed to do that with Rick Nash
Mike
From todays Globe "
“He’s one of the most elite goalies in the league,” teammate Brad Marchand said. “He gives us an opportunity every night. You saw the saves he made to keep us in it.” OK I will give you that Marchand maybe rooting a bit too hard for a team mate.... Or maybe you think he doesn't know what he's talking about?
"Rask is on a heater. He is 11-0-2 since Dec. 29, with a 1.93 GAA and .933 save percenta ge in that stretch.....ok that is only the last 13 games. He did have a really rough patch earlier in the year leading to a leave of absence from the team but Halak played pretty well during that stretch." Tim Thomas wasn't a career long Elite goalie. He got hot for a year then imploded....
Current Stat Rank:
GAA. Rask 8, Halak 6
Save Percentage: Rask 10 Halak 7
Haters gonna hate.
I do not disagree with you about giving up young talent for a washed up third liner.... The only way I would consider it if they get a legit 30 goal scorer to put with Krechi and DeBrusk. Last year they tried and failed to do that with Rick Nash
Mike
Bruins will never, ever win with rask. I blame management as they have never once brought in a legit goalie to compete for the starting job (halak has been the closest). Rask has been anointed the starter for 8 years and is on cruise control with no effort. Rask has led the bruins exactly nowhere and the one year they went to the cup with him, he crapped his pants and let Chicago win.
Goaltending is the bruins top concern. Until it is resolved, mediocrity will be the norm.
02-18-2019, 12:11 PM
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What can I say.... 
. Anton Khuhdobin is currently 9th in Save Percentage and 10th in GAA. But you have eyes....
They finished 4th in the league last year and lost in the second round of the playoff (admittedly slightly disappointing) they are currently 6th in the league right now. Is mediocrity when the Partiots lose in the Super Bowl or only when they don't make it to the Super Bowl and lose the AFC Championship Game?
Webester Definition of Mediocre: of moderate or low quality, value, ability or performance. Slow day at work so it is fun to banter with you. But eventually I will get too busy to banter like this and let you hate on....
Mike
. Anton Khuhdobin is currently 9th in Save Percentage and 10th in GAA. But you have eyes....They finished 4th in the league last year and lost in the second round of the playoff (admittedly slightly disappointing) they are currently 6th in the league right now. Is mediocrity when the Partiots lose in the Super Bowl or only when they don't make it to the Super Bowl and lose the AFC Championship Game?
Webester Definition of Mediocre: of moderate or low quality, value, ability or performance. Slow day at work so it is fun to banter with you. But eventually I will get too busy to banter like this and let you hate on....
Mike
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02-18-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Snake
Tampa Bay will be tough to beat.........they have 4 good lines, and some of the elite players in the game, and great goaltending...
Unless they develop a strong second line there is no way they get past the Bolts. But they are a fun, young and exciting team non-the-less.
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02-18-2019, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Parapapam
What can I say.... . Anton Khuhdobin is currently 9th in Save Percentage and 10th in GAA. But you have eyes....
They finished 4th in the league last year and lost in the second round of the playoff (admittedly slightly disappointing) they are currently 6th in the league right now. Is mediocrity when the Partiots lose in the Super Bowl or only when they don't make it to the Super Bowl and lose the AFC Championship Game?
Webester Definition of Mediocre: of moderate or low quality, value, ability or performance. Slow day at work so it is fun to banter with you. But eventually I will get too busy to banter like this and let you hate on....
Mike
. Anton Khuhdobin is currently 9th in Save Percentage and 10th in GAA. But you have eyes....They finished 4th in the league last year and lost in the second round of the playoff (admittedly slightly disappointing) they are currently 6th in the league right now. Is mediocrity when the Partiots lose in the Super Bowl or only when they don't make it to the Super Bowl and lose the AFC Championship Game?
Webester Definition of Mediocre: of moderate or low quality, value, ability or performance. Slow day at work so it is fun to banter with you. But eventually I will get too busy to banter like this and let you hate on....
Mike
khudobin = 37th highest paid goalie.
So the bruins are getting 37th paid production out of the 4th highest paid goalie. Like I stated - mediocrity.
02-20-2019, 05:56 AM
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If they could trade Rask today for a top line wing that can reliably hit the back of the net they should do it.
Otherwise, 1-2 rounds at best.
With today's game of blocking shots out front, the goalie has become less important.
The only time the goalie becomes critical is OT and SO.
And my question with Rask has always been, when has he ever stolen a game for them?
Otherwise, 1-2 rounds at best.
With today's game of blocking shots out front, the goalie has become less important.
The only time the goalie becomes critical is OT and SO.
And my question with Rask has always been, when has he ever stolen a game for them?
02-20-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LongJohnSilver
If they could trade Rask today for a top line wing that can reliably hit the back of the net they should do it.
Otherwise, 1-2 rounds at best.
With today's game of blocking shots out front, the goalie has become less important.
The only time the goalie becomes critical is OT and SO.
And my question with Rask has always been, when has he ever stolen a game for them?
Otherwise, 1-2 rounds at best.
With today's game of blocking shots out front, the goalie has become less important.
The only time the goalie becomes critical is OT and SO.
And my question with Rask has always been, when has he ever stolen a game for them?
02-20-2019, 04:41 PM
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02-21-2019, 05:23 AM
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That trade does nothing for the Bruins other than add a little size.
If Donato had played in same # of games as Coyle, their numbers would be comparable.
Even if they make him 3rd line center he adds nothing as he's not a + faceoff guy.
They need a goalscorer, not a "good guy in the room"! They already have a David Backes. 1 is enough.
If Donato had played in same # of games as Coyle, their numbers would be comparable.
Even if they make him 3rd line center he adds nothing as he's not a + faceoff guy.
They need a goalscorer, not a "good guy in the room"! They already have a David Backes. 1 is enough.
