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Old 10-28-2016, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
From your post:

The NFL games have become a bit commonplace, games are no longer special. Goodell and the greedy owners have saturated the market. All day long on Sunday - 9 am till Midnight,

I remember growing up there would be several game on at 1pm then several at 4pm. Today we are actually getting less game not more.
Not the # of games that can be watched - the # of times they are on. All the games used to be on at 1 and 4, then Sun and Mon nights. Now we have Thurs and Sat morning too




The Thursday night games are new - Thursday night is a relatively recent addition
The Sat morning games from England are new too.

Those are 2 new time slots. It used to be 3 games Sunday and one on Monday
or 4 games total

Now we have added 2 more time slots so we can watch 6 games, that is a 50 % increase

Now we can watch 6 versus 4 previously

4 on Sunday
1 on Monday
1 on Thursday
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:38 PM
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I thought it was just me......I think I've only watched 2 games this season.
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Old 10-28-2016, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IES99 View Post
Fans have come to realize that these early season games are not very important and that it all comes down to getting into the playoffs and then seeing if the team can make a run. Why watch anything before the holidays?

Yes, some of the actions of the players off the field (wife beating etc) and on the field (during the anthem and after making a good play or score) (doing "their" dance) would not have been acceptable in the old days.
There are 162 baseball games per season (not counting spring training).

I would say I saw or listened to at least 140 Nationals games per year for the past 10 years.

Prior to that I probably saw or listened to 140 Orioles games per year.

The NFL is in sleeper mode on 16 games per season?
Not a good sign.
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Originally Posted by NC Flatlander View Post
I thought it was just me......I think I've only watched 2 games this season.
Nope...you aren't alone.
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Originally Posted by chrispnet View Post
Nope...you aren't alone.
I only watch the Pats myself.Till they get some consistency, specifically with Goodell .
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Old 10-29-2016, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
Baseballs making a come back....
I like watching baseball, the grass grow, and florida sink into the atlantic ocean........
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:32 AM
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I used to watch any game on because it was fun to watch. Can't stand watching anyone but the Steelrs ( my team) and don't even watch the whole game any,ore. The kneeling for the antom really pisses me offf.
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Old 10-30-2016, 04:07 PM
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Won another. Even team tacking has a problem with #87...the Gronk.
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Old 10-31-2016, 06:39 PM
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World Series drew more viewers than Dallas Philly !!

World Series' big TV win is latest piece of bad news for NFL
Cindy BorenThe Washington Post

TV ratings for the NFL are down precipitously this season and everyone has a pet theory for why fans suddenly are tuning out. Donald Trump has his ideas, Roger Goodell has his.

And then there's the latest hard evidence. Ratings figures show that Game 5 of the World Series was a big winner Sunday night, with the Chicago Cubs and Cleveland Indians coming out on top against the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles.

World Series Game 5 (15.3 overnight rating) beat Cowboys-Eagles overtime game last night by 32 percent (11.6 for Sunday Night Football)
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Old 11-01-2016, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
As soon as they get out of politics and showboating I'll be interested again.

Not much respect for most of the current players or the way the game is being played.

I hate all the showboating... I really do. Everyone is playing for the name on the back, not the name on the front.

Like the Eric Church song about Waylon and Cash kicking the collective asses of current "country" music singers for what they've done to the product, I feel like players from the 60s and 70s would do the same to the current divas playing in the NFL.

There are still plenty of good MEN left in the sport, but they are unfortunately outnumbered by the prima donna special snowflakes.

And that's why I don't watch much. And why the Panthers being so terrible doesn't really bother me.
Have you ever actually watched football from the 60s, 70s and 80s? They were wayyyy more flamboyant back then. The NFL has regulated away all the fun in the game.
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:11 PM
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The local sports radio station here in Tampa did an online poll asking fans why they thought the ratings were down. the top two reponses with 36% each were bad on field product and the whole national anthem protest thing. "Goodell is a jagoff" got 7%.
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There are two cancers in the NFL.......Politics and Goodell!
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But the faltering performance of sports network ESPN is threatening to undo much of the company's goodwill among investors. Although earnings and revenue both hit records in the fiscal fourth quarter just ended, they missed analysts' forecasts because ad revenue at ESPN fell by over 10% year-on-year. ESPN lost 620,000 subscribers in November, its worst month ever, according to Nielsen

Poor Disney, they have ruined a once decent network. They will drag the NFL down with their liberal crap on ESPN.
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I believe that JayA is spot on - heard a clip from Goodell today ranting about Trump. The No Fun League will quickly become the No Fan League if the idiots continue to pursue their political agenda (such as the continued attack on Charlotte). Sports werea relief from daily life, all the way back to The Great Depression - making football a bleeping arm of the Progressive movement is a sure way to continue a downward spiral. San Deigo is not interested in seeing tax dollars go to a stadium, so that may be further evidence of a crack in The Shield...
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I believe that JayA is spot on - heard a clip from Goodell today ranting about Trump. The No Fun League will quickly become the No Fan League if the idiots continue to pursue their political agenda (such as the continued attack on Charlotte). Sports werea relief from daily life, all the way back to The Great Depression - making football a bleeping arm of the Progressive movement is a sure way to continue a downward spiral. San Deigo is not interested in seeing tax dollars go to a stadium, so that may be further evidence of a crack in The Shield...



Just as there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, there should also be a separation of sports and politics. Especially when the politics are all wrong
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:09 AM
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The NFL may not be making quite as much money as last season, but they are still taking in billions. They will continue on for many a year, maybe not quite as big as today, but big enough to make a bunch of folks a lot of money.
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Old 11-18-2016, 03:26 PM
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I have nothing against the NFL but while there is college football going on I do not watch much. Once the college regular season is over I will watch some but still really do not stick with it till the playoffs start

I would say this whole crap with Kappernick has really pissed the average fan away this year, hell look at how the election went should be some indication. . Average hard working folks are tired of this crap
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:05 PM
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I have no use for a league that will allow its playing fields to be used for divisive political statements. Football and all sports are supposed to be our escapes from all of that crap.
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Old 11-25-2016, 06:15 AM
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OK, i am very old school. I know sports is entertainment but why does it have to be "fun" for the players. Most make over a million and then want it to be fun also. Don't get it. Common plays and most act like they cured cancer. Watch a bunch with my sons, and they wouldn't watch if it were not for their "fantasy" league. Me, I really missed Roku
At one time NYG season ticket holder and recently, for my company, Panthers. Personally used them for a pre season game once. MY feelings, the antics of players are killing the sport. Grow up.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:21 AM
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I love the NFL, it's the only sport I watch with regularity anymore. I paid for the DirectTV Sunday Ticket this year. I started watching Hockey again this year and I only watched some of the World Series games this year because of the teams involved.

As far as the knee stuff? The only reason the media is making it the issue it is , is because people talk about it. All WE have to do is stop taking about it and the media will pounce on the next "hot topic". If you take away the right to "take a knee" you are making their case for them. If the players take a knee and the camera focuses on the flag... If the players take a knee and no one talks about it? Well.......that won't be such a hot topic anymore.. The only reason I even know some players are still taking knees is from reading it here.

I also think over saturation is hurting the game, too many time slots, too many different countries, too many games. Outside of the fanatic like me no one is going to watch 6 games a week..
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