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Old 04-09-2016, 04:10 AM
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Racing as I knew it growing up changed the day Ricky Rudd killed that crewman on pit rd. Constant rule changes, Brian France,the chase format, and the generic look of all cars have made it far less exciting for me. I was talking to a guy I know who works for NASCAR yesterday and he informed me that they've taken down the grandstands on the backstretch here at CMS. I didn't ask him when but he went on to say that after taking down these stands all was left was a flat concrete slab that CMS intended on renting spaces for motor homes right up against the outside wall where the stand were for 10g per race weekend.
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:19 PM
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I'm sitting at the race right now, looking around. A large number of people around me are on scrolling facebook, and the rest of us are on tht. 1/4 of the seats have been empty since the start, and thousands more left by the time the race was 2/3 over. Sad days for Nascar. I think it's dead.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Turtle9343 View Post
I'm sitting at the race right now, looking around. A large number of people around me are on scrolling facebook, and the rest of us are on tht. 1/4 of the seats have been empty since the start, and thousands more left by the time the race was 2/3 over. Sad days for Nascar. I think it's dead.
To be fair, do you think there would have been more people there if it was not raining?
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Again, not one article in the Sunday Raleigh paper, who leaves last, put out the lights.
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Old 04-10-2016, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by doobs41378 View Post
To be fair, do you think there would have been more people there if it was not raining?
No. It only sprinkled, and only for about ten minutes, an hour or more before the race, there was no substantial rain at the track, nor was there any forecast.

While I was sitting waiting for the race to start, i went online again to see if there were seats available. An hour before race time, there were literally thousands of unsold seats.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:47 AM
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I will be the first to say the status of NASCAR is a sad state of affairs currently. There are a whole lot of contributing factors. That being said I didn't think the attendance looked to be too terrible for that particular race considering the delay. You have to consider the max capacity of that track is like 180,000 people. 140,000 in the grandstands.

As for no news article in the paper today I wouldn't expect it until tomorrow. I didn't stay up for the end of the race but I assume it ended after 10:30- 10:45pm which is usually the cutoff time for writers to submit their columns.

I have my ideas for what NASCAR should do to improve the quality of their product but what do I know!
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It's also Masters weekend.

I can't ever remember the Charlotte tracking being totally full but I believe it's one of the bigger tracks capacity wise.

Sad that they are removing the old diamond tower in turn 2. I guess the RV set up will be similar to Atlanta which I think would be pretty appealing.

Wish they had more Saturday night races this time of year. This thread has me considering going to Bristol next weekend and it would be a lot easier if it were on Saturday.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:05 PM
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Charlotte observer has a complete story. I hate that it is on the drop but the way they run the entire program, "dictatorship" is a turn off among so many other issues.

too many big teams
too many track owned by a few
abandoning what made it very popular
Absolute boring races on 1.5 mi tracks.

Every time i drive by N Wilkesboro, oh well
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:26 PM
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I would cut out a bunch of the 1.5 mile races. Add road more road courses. Bring back some tracks like N. Wilksboro and I would like to see a few prime time races like Thursday nights. Similar to the NFL games.

Put a salary cap on teams and let them "interpret" the rules more.
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Let them run on dirt like the trucks. That would separate the drivers from the true racers. There aint nothing like a super late model flying sideways down the straights.
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How about just a little loose gravel dropped randomly around the tracks. Just enough to keep them on their toes.
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Originally Posted by steve a59 View Post
Racing as I knew it growing up changed the day Ricky Rudd killed that crewman on pit rd. Constant rule changes,.

I was at that race, Bill was running away with it till that happened


I have said all along WAY TOOOOOOOO many races and most of the newer tracks are cookie cutters and boring to watch

No offense to the rest of the USA but this IS a SOUTHERN sport, I think they tried to expand to areas to suit sponsors and advertising BUT it appears those areas just do not care for NASCAR that much . Bring back N WIlksboro, The Rock and cut your losses with most of the newer tracks

Personally I enjoy the road courses and NOTHING like TALLEDEGA and Daytona .
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
I was at that race, Bill was running away with it till that happened


I have said all along WAY TOOOOOOOO many races and most of the newer tracks are cookie cutters and boring to watch

No offense to the rest of the USA but this IS a SOUTHERN sport, I think they tried to expand to areas to suit sponsors and advertising BUT it appears those areas just do not care for NASCAR that much . Bring back N WIlksboro, The Rock and cut your losses with most of the newer tracks

Personally I enjoy the road courses and NOTHING like TALLEDEGA and Daytona .
I agree some things should be locally. Hockey should be a northern states/Canada thing and racing should be in the south.
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Yeah guys pushing the rules and getting caught every so often was a lot more entertaining.

They ought to come up with "stock car racing ." Mustangs vs Camaros vs challengers. And I guess a Toyota/Lexus F?
It's called SCCA.


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Old 04-11-2016, 09:45 PM
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The only thing I find remotely interesting about a 4 hour nascar race is what happens during pit stops. They get gas, new tires and whatever adjustments they need in less time than it takes me to swipe my debit card at the pump.

The other 3 hours 59 minutes and 25 seconds is just watching cars go in a circle. I'd rather be fishing.
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Old 04-17-2016, 03:50 PM
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Here is one of the reasons I quit watching this doesn't happen anymore, bunch of pretty boys in it for the money, and not racing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDDcmz8VMew
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Old 04-19-2016, 04:44 AM
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remove the power steering, that will eliminate over half the drivers right off the bat
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Old 04-26-2016, 07:23 AM
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I just can't put my finger own why I lost interest. I use to watch every race and go to a couple every year but I can't even tell you who won last weeks race. I think it started when they made the car of tomorrow when all the cars looked the same and did not even resemble a street car. I also think there are no characters out there like Earnhardt SR.,Elliot, Waltrip etc.

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Agree here, But I think the biggest slip came with the Unified body that they use. It just cant be any more mundane. No innovation, no new teams , no new brands.. They slap Fusion, Camry and impala to sell cars that are family sedans, like the average viewer is an idiot. its embarrassing to the sport and its fan base.


And I think when Toyota came in, the average nationalistic fan turn away a bit too.


Its just become boring..
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